Mega Rad Gun Thread

[lego racers]

i also had a chance to shoot a full auto one at a range and really liked how it shot.

really? i've shot one once and it was kinda awful. now to be fair, i had also just shot a full-auto ar so maybe it's just the comparison i'm remembering, but i couldn't get any sort of grouping with it at all and the rof was way, way lower than i thought it would be, and the open bolt trigger wasn't very satisfying. i honestly kinda regret paying for it, the same store had a grease gun and i can't help but think how much more fun that would've been.

 

[megafag]

the Colt Detective Special is a pretty sweet gun. A vintage revolver like that can be worth more than 2k new and 400-1k used (depending on where you're getting it and when it was made). I held one before and it's very nice for smaller hands like mine.

Id love a collection of vintage guns someday, probably gonna be mostly revolvers but I would love to have a gun that loads clips one day as well

 

[lego racers]

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panel grips are so sexy. mine are in the mail.

 

[Belgians in the Congo]

*a lovely and comfy story*

I just want you to know I marked it autistic out of brotherly respect.

 

[Dean Pentel]

Have you all heard *of M+M? I hadn't until Chris covered their third gen AK-style rifle earlier today. Sounds interesting and market price seems to be right about what a new BCM costs.

The only problem I can see with it is that it currently only comes in 7.62X39. If they made this in 5.56 I bet it'd be rad. I definitely have plenty of long-stroke piston 5.56 rifles currently, but can't say I wouldn't be tempted to pick up another one.

*Edit: try not to sustain a TBI, fellas. It creates a lot of annoying problems in life.

 

[Bassomatic]

the Colt Detective Special is a pretty sweet gun. A vintage revolver like that can be worth more than 2k new and 400-1k used (depending on where you're getting it and when it was made). I held one before and it's very nice for smaller hands like mine.
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I bought two S&W victory parts kits one I am redoing stock as a homage to USAF pistol the other will be some kinda fitz special sin like that but more ghetto and sad.

 

[EggImpregnator]

Have you all of M+M? I hadn't until Chris covered their third gen AK-style rifle earlier today. Sounds interesting and market price seems to be right about what a new BCM costs.

The only problem I can see with it is that it currently only comes in 7.62X39. If they made this in 5.56 I bet it'd be rad. I definitely have plenty of long-stroke piston 5.56 rifles currently, but can't say I wouldn't be tempted to pick up another one.

I know when they first came out they had a reputation of being absolute dog shit rifles. They've probably significantly improved them by now. Shame they're only in 762x39.

 

[Club Sandwich]

a photo of "jungle mags" in the field that i have that is still relatively modern. note that the concept is what i outlined earlier - you had limited battle rattle and so you had a vest and a bag for your gear but for your primary you might jungle mag something just to get through a fight's initial contact, just enough to get your gear on or break off - but if it got to that then things were bad. it was more important to be low profile or that you had other gear on that took priority (PPE, wetsuit, sustainment, local clothing, et c). cropped from an old polaroid, circa early 2000's, although this was similar to the setup being used since the late 90's.

for people like contractors in later years, it was more convenient to do jungle mags and mag clamps for vehicle work than use drums or something, and they wouldn't have belt feds anyway, usually just AR's of one kind or another and their entire kit had to both be portable on their body while offering compatibility with vehicles and truck beds, et c, and jungle mags in that case can work because of how awkward it might be to swap mags when sitting down in a cramped space.

Spoiler

still using b-squared weaver mounts, i still have some of these. works great imho and i like the pre-set distances for eye relief on short dots.

 

[Marvin]

My sister's birthday is coming up soonish, and I'm thinking of buying her a 10-22 receiver and doing a build of that with her.

Awhile back, after Bruen, I helped her get her carry permit and I helped her build an 80% Glock (back when that was still legal to do here).

I think a 10-22 would be a fun followup project.

Though (and I don't expect anyone to know the answer to this here, just thinking out loud), I don't know how the state distinguishes between a rifle receiver and a pistol receiver. The pistol receiver would be a regulated firearm and the paperwork becomes more complicated in that case.

This one seller I'm looking at says it's a rifle receiver and that's what I want. But is there any hard and fast way to keep the state from fucking me?

Do receivers have gun identities a la troon gender identities?

 

[Club Sandwich]

I don't know how the state distinguishes between a rifle receiver and a pistol receiver.

federally, a receiver is logged into the manufacturer's books as whatever it is. options include frame, pistol, rifle, shotgun, and the various NFA items. this is why a receiver booked as a rifle is always a rifle and required a tax stamp and form 4 regardless of what upper is on it. it is also why the form 1 is an "application to make and register" and NFA firearm. when you swap uppers and the new upper transforms the firearm to meet the definition of (example) a short barrel rifle, you are assembling or "making" the NFA item. many states use a firearm's markings and serial number to determine what it was originally manufactured as to determine what it is for legal purposes.

there are some interesting consequences of this system though. a pistol can have any barrel length, a rifle with extremely rare exception, cannot have a barrel shorter than 16 inches (as measured from a closed bolt, not including removable muzzle devices). an incomplete firearm is neither a pistol or rifle and instead becomes whatever functional firearm it is first assembled as and serialized as, technically. especially with the existing exceptions for home-made (and now called "privately made") firearms. namely that something that is marketed/sold/produced/distributed as a "frame" is generally considered a handgun/pistol incomplete firearm (but still regulated as a firearm), and a "receiver" is the same but for a rifle/shotgun/other. multi-part or modular "frames" or "receivers" have new definitions and rules that apply to the complete assembly separate from the incomplete assembly (sub assemblies, components, et c).

Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

On May 7, 2021, the Attorney General signed ATF proposed rule 2021R-05, Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms. The goal of the proposed rule is to ensure the proper marking, recordkeeping, and traceability of all firearms manufactured, imported, acquired and disposed...

www.atf.gov

you can always ask the manufacturer/police/department of justice (or equivalent) to check a given serial number and what it's booked as. there's no harm in checking this and it might help you avoid acquiring something that you don't want. the ATF uses the manufacturer's books as the ultimate fact though, and together with its current configuration to determine legality.

Spoiler: boring stuff

to give a concrete example, in CA, when i manufacture a rifle, i book it as a rifle even if it's just a plain receiver. this is because the receivers are marked after finish machining and usually it's fulfilling a specific sales order where i know what it's going to be. if the customer reconfigured it into another legal configuration and sold it, when it goes to the state, they "update" the serial number in their ledger with the new configuration as part of the DROS process, and the ATF likewise gets the new info on the form 4473. when a dealer buys it from a person, they also have to book it in and part of that is filling out either the firearms transfer record or the requisite disposition eForm and that will have the details on the firearm as the ATF knows it (pistol, rifle, barrel length, color, et c). part of the Handgun Safety Act is identifying handguns and there's a little check box that you tick if it's a handgun or not. you get an error when there is a mismatch. physical inventory can also catch mismatches these days since it's mostly electronic now.

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

Getting my Bob Ross on today. Not the best rattle can job, but at least it’s not black.

 

[Marvin]

many states use a firearm's markings and serial number to determine what it was originally manufactured as to determine what it is for legal purposes.

Yeah, Maryland probably defaults to this scheme, but I do know they also have their own separately curated list of regulated firearms with their own designations, sometimes completely at odds with federal law.

I experienced this firsthand awhile ago when I tried to transfer a Mossberg Shockwave into the state.

Federally the Shockwave is just a "firearm", not a shotgun but also not a pistol, because of goofy legal definitions.

Since it wasn't a pistol, I thought I was good to go. Normally in Maryland, you need a Handgun Qualification License to transfer a handgun. (Which is funny, because up until this point, I had already owned legal 80% Glocks. Because you need the HQL to transfer, but not to manufacture, back when manufacturing was still legal here.)

Except I didn't check the regulated firearm list. I'm guessing because of its length, they added it to the regulated firearm list as a handgun. Being on that list, it's not banned, necessarily. But that does mean the state considers it a handgun and therefore you need your HQL to transfer them.

The laws in this state are gay and you really need to dot your Is and cross your Ts when doing any kind of purchase or transfer.

That being said, they're often poorly written and full of loopholes you could drive a truck through, so if you do do your homework, you can usually get what you want.

 

[Akran]

Well I just did two days of dove hunting. My friend let me try his saiga .410, it did not like having one in the chamber with a two round mag so I just did two rounds. This is my first time using a .410 for dove hunting and I did not enjoy it. I got more wounds than outright kills which made me feel bad. Usually I just club their heads in, I do not like ripping them off like most people. It just feels weird to me when you grab their neck. I ended up switching early on to my trusty Remington model 11 12ga in the Kurt Kobain configuration. I also used two different 20 gauges my friend had. I did not buy a new shotgun like I wanted to due to other projects and purchases. I will probably go again before the seasons over, I would love to get my hands on a 12ga saiga as I imagine that would perform better. I hit the limit the first day and the 2nd I only got 8. I will be trying smoked dove for the first time, I'm sure it will taste great.

 

[Club Sandwich]

I'm guessing because of its length, they added it to the regulated firearm list as a handgun.

be glad in small ways: in CA it's considered a state-defined short barrel shotgun in the original configuration and must have the 18.5" barrel to bring up the barrel length (technically 18" is ok, but mossberg already makes an 18.5" barrel so they use that). an SBS form 1 or form 4 is functionally impossible to get approved in CA outside of specific circumstances or in a few counties/cities.

 

[POWER IN MISERY]

I would love to get my hands on a 12ga saiga as I imagine that would perform better

don't be too sure. if you can get a VEPR do it. i feel like i'm eating boogers having to fuck with my lynx 12. it's very dear to me despite this.

it did not like having one in the chamber with a two round mag so I just did two rounds.

let me guess... the magazine wouldn't fit on a closed bolt? that's the first booger in your mouth. the next one is the gas regulator, replace it with an autoplug made by some stoner in a texas toolshed.

 

[Ravier Xavenblood]

Went to the range today and shot a few hundred rounds. Supressor sights on the Glock took some getting used to but they held up well. My Swenson barrel also exceeded expectations. No malfunctions and it even ate defensive +p ammo without breaking a sweat. Also the Rossi handled .357 magnum ammo well and is an absolute joy to shoot. Can't believe I lucked out with a budget magnum.

Probably gonna sell the snubby Smith though.

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

Well I just did two days of dove hunting. My friend let me try his saiga .410, it did not like having one in the chamber with a two round mag so I just did two rounds. This is my first time using a .410 for dove hunting and I did not enjoy it. I got more wounds than outright kills which made me feel bad. Usually I just club their heads in, I do not like ripping them off like most people. It just feels weird to me when you grab their neck. I ended up switching early on to my trusty Remington model 11 12ga in the Kurt Kobain configuration. I also used two different 20 gauges my friend had. I did not buy a new shotgun like I wanted to due to other projects and purchases. I will probably go again before the seasons over, I would love to get my hands on a 12ga saiga as I imagine that would perform better. I hit the limit the first day and the 2nd I only got 8. I will be trying smoked dove for the first time, I'm sure it will taste great.

i have a .410 and i think they are fun range guns, but for anything more than shooting cans, i wouldn't recommend one.

i tried skeet shooting with mine, and while im not great at it under normal circumstances i did so horribly with it that i legit made me feel bad. maybe if my gun had a choke on it it would help, but it is just too few pellets in a wide pattern to be able to break clays with.

 

[Akran]

let me guess... the magazine wouldn't fit on a closed bolt? that's the first booger in your mouth. the next one is the gas regulator, replace it with an autoplug made by some stoner in a texas toolshed.

Yarp, if i ever get one I will keep this in mind. I gotta SBR my Bizon build first and then do a colt mag AR9 SBR. Then I'll probably shop around for a saiga.

 

[Verdun_Salient]

I did 2 gun the other week for my friends vet charity. Man we had a great time. First of all, I brought a lot of 556 ammo. Me, nah nigga I dressed up in a full ww1 Russian kit. Got some laughs.

I had my yearly review, I got a nice raise and a little bonus. Guys you're gonna hate me. I'm getting a gun that makes no sense but I just want. 6mm Lee. I am ready to spent 5k today for one, I have seen for less. I don't care about brand/ rarity etc. I just want one, because I like them.

Enough of my faggot blog. So what's a weird ass gun ya'll want don't "need" not for value not for investment not to use just a gun you want because you WANT it and that's your reasoning.

MAB38

 

[The Dude]

i have a .410 and i think they are fun range guns, but for anything more than shooting cans, i wouldn't recommend one.

i tried skeet shooting with mine, and while im not great at it under normal circumstances i did so horribly with it that i legit made me feel bad. maybe if my gun had a choke on it it would help, but it is just too few pellets in a wide pattern to be able to break clays with.

Haven't had a lot of experience with .410. About the only time I've ever shot one was in Montana at the cabin my sister-in-law had before she and her husband got divorced. Went out with one of my nephews to pop Prariedogs and Gophers with a little .410 single shot break-action, and it was perfectly adequate for that. Anything other than that and I'd definitely want something bigger.