Sean Patrick Martin / Sean P. Martin, Esq / Sean Martin / Potentially Criminal / @PotentiallyCriminal / Martin Media LLC / Martin Law Office LLC

[Captain Manning]

Wonder what a ninth amendment absolutist would be like. I guess a Stirnerite arguing that any impediment on any action taken by someone is a breach of some unenumerated right?

That's a good question, actually.

I would think it would be easier to be a Third Amendment absolutist than a Ninth Amendment absolutist, because the Third Amendment is pretty clear on its face, and narrowly tailored to deal with one issue.

There's really nothing wrong with the Third Amendment as such, and it's easy enough to be an absolutist in regard to it, but it's somewhat difficult to envision a scenario where it would be relevant and invocable in modern U.S. society. It was something they stuck in there because of a specific British practice at the time the founders found offensive.

Meanwhile, courts have really struggled with the meaning of the Ninth Amendment.

 

[AnOminous]

Wonder what a ninth amendment absolutist would be like. I guess a Stirnerite arguing that any impediment on any action taken by someone is a breach of some unenumerated right?

I like Randy Barnett's conception of the Ninth Amendment, that is, that it should create a presumption of liberty and require actual justifications for restricting liberty. As a practical matter, that would shift the burden to the government to justify any legislative or regulatory action doing so, and do away with the so-called "rational basis" test most laws are analyzed under when challenged as unconstitutional.

Meanwhile, courts have really struggled with the meaning of the Ninth Amendment.

I would argue they haven't. They've just largely pretended it doesn't exist at all, or hand-waved it away as effectively meaning nothing. I don't really consider "let's just ignore it and maybe it will go away" as a principled mode of constitutional analysis.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

Sean, I just want you to know I am deeply concerned by your lack of commitment to the Third Amendment.

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I lie awake in bed every night, gripped by fear that there's gonna be a knock on the door, and that I'll be legally forced to provide room and board for an Army platoon.

Please do better.

I'm fucking with you. LOL.

My worry with the third is that it leaves the door open to be legally forced to intern refugees. Both economic and real.

 

[JustStopDude]

My worry with the third is that it leaves the door open to be legally forced to intern refugees. Both economic and real.

How does the 3rd amendment accomplish that?

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

How does the 3rd amendment accomplish that?

It doesn’t have language stopping it and we’re getting to a point where people are being told to volunteer to house refugee families and vacant houses being used for refugees.

 

[JustStopDude]

It doesn’t have language stopping it and we’re getting to a point where people are being told to volunteer to house refugee families and vacant houses being used for refugees.

Well...as a Catholic, I've open my home to refugees in the past. I've never been asked by the government to do this.

I mean, to each their own I guess.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

Well...as a Catholic, I've open my home to refugees in the past. I've never been asked by the government to do this.

I mean, to each their own I guess.

I sound cruel about it, but my issue is the the current bullshit of no payment loans with no payment plan needed at time of signing for undocumented/ illegal immigrants is effectively a recipe for a worse subprime mortgage crisis.

The government should not be asking you to house refugees and be allowed to house them in your vacant properties unless you have the power to say no and face no repercussions.
I don’t give a shit if it’s Katrina, that bullshit will be used to do far worse to you down the road.

 

[JustStopDude]

I sound cruel about it, but my issue is the the current bullshit of no payment loans with no payment plan needed at time of signing for undocumented/ illegal immigrants is effectively a recipe for a worse subprime mortgage crisis.

The government should not be asking you to house refugees and be allowed to house them in your vacant properties unless you have the power to say no and face no repercussions.
I don’t give a shit if it’s Katrina, that bullshit will be used to do far worse to you down the road.

You care about money and the government. I get that.

It doesn't supercede my faith. We aren't the same.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

You care about money and the government. I get that.

It doesn't supercede my faith. We aren't the same.

? I’m more worried about property rights (the basis of all rights as Americans) getting undermined. Mainly under the guise of being nice.

Christian Charity is a deliberate choice. The government incentivizing action is what I am against. Men should be charitable, the Government should not be nor should it give charity to foreigners without the okay of the citizenry.
There is injustice in hating your neighbor and treating a exotic foreigner better than your neighbor.

 

[AnOminous]

? I’m more worried about property rights (the basis of all rights as Americans) getting undermined. Mainly under the guise of being nice.

Christian Charity is a deliberate choice. The government incentivizing action is what I am against. Men should be charitable, the Government should not be nor should it give charity to foreigners without the okay of the citizenry.
There is injustice in hating your neighbor and treating a exotic foreigner better than your neighbor.

I'd honestly not be against offering tax credits for kinds of charity that actually should be encouraged. Not just deductions. It's more efficient because charity intelligently directed at specific things the person donating actually wants to do are likely to be better thought out than nearly anything done by the government.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

I'd honestly not be against offering tax credits for kinds of charity that actually should be encouraged. Not just deductions. It's more efficient because charity intelligently directed at specific things the person donating actually wants to do are likely to be better thought out than nearly anything done by the government.

My stance on this is not something I have well explained. My thoughts are most a jumble because I am both sunburned and tired.

The entire 3rd Amendment is one that kind of gets forgotten about. Part of the reason British soldiers were hated by colonists was because they could be forcibly housed or take part of your property with no real reason needed, and then they’d fucking steal jobs from colonists. Most of the time the soldiers would often pick up jobs to undercut locals on shit.
It’s an odd place where it should be the argument against Eminent Domain, H1B visas, and they took our jobs should all converge.

My issues on charities are that they almost always become fundraising engines, don’t actually do shit, or make issues worse. If they get subverted for political purposes than you get what’s been going on with Catholic Charities since the 70’s to now.

 

[AnOminous]

It’s an odd place where it should be the argument against Eminent Domain, H1B visas, and they took our jobs should all converge.

Eminent domain is kind of necessary but I wish it were limited to basic infrastructure and absolutely necessary things like highways and dams that actually do benefit everyone. The Kelo v. City of New London case is one of the worst SCOTUS cases ever and basically says they can call it a "public" interest to take away private property and give it to a corporation.

This case literally took private property, family homes specifically, and gave it to evil fucks like Pfizer.

 

[JustStopDude]

There is injustice in hating your neighbor and treating a exotic foreigner better than your neighbor.

I have a feeling you probably don't like homeless shelters.

 

[Lian Xing]

It doesn't supercede my faith. We aren't the same.

You aren’t supposed to destroy yourself and your people for foreign invaders.

That’s not a religion; that’s a suicide pact.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

I have a feeling you probably don't like homeless shelters.

I’ve worked at a soup kitchen before I’m just coming across very unhinged.

 

[JustStopDude]

I’ve worked at a soup kitchen before I’m just coming across very unhinged.

I'm just joking around. I run into a lot of people that use the argument "we need to help our own people first" and then immediately get defensive if you bring up what they can do to help the community.

 

[Not Really Here]

JFC Sean.
Lauren Chen immigrated to the US, married a citizen, and currently lives in Tennessee. She is in US jurisdiction, and may have immigration issues now. Fidel's son is the least of her worries.

 

[Captain Manning]

JFC Sean.
Lauren Chen immigrated to the US, married a citizen, and currently lives in Tennessee. She is in US jurisdiction, and may have immigration issues now. Fidel's son is the least of her worries.

Dumb bitch is a dumb bitch for taking Putin's money, and so much of it. Of course the glowniggers figured it out and now she's in hot water.

Send her back to Canada. Please send Viva with her.

 

[DaleMcGuy]

Mirror Universe R.R. Martin is starting a model building channel. Another source for savage bants.
I sure hope it fairs better than the Rekieta Media channel!
https://www.youtube.com/@SeansModelBench

 

[DaleMcGuy]

Around 02:04:00 Sean goes over Ana Kasparian on Sitch and Adam.
Ana confesses to being obsessed with the Rekieta drama, even reading the Farms to stay informed and knows who Sean is.
Karma is truly in full effect for the House of Balldo. To be seen if she knows about Nick's drawing of her. Though the impressive amount of knowledge displayed, most likely.