Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"

[squirreltail]

The Jesuits could have knifed her in the alley that very evening.

Hardly. The Jesuits fucking hated John Paul II and the sentiment was returned.

 

[monstrous bubo]

Fresh from explaining why child rapists should be walking the streets, Joe advocates for distressed mentally ill people joining them (full thread in the spoiler).

Spoiler: Mmmm, luxury beliefs

Grace Lavery
@graceelavery

This story about psychiatric hospitals kidnapping people for insurance payouts by Jessica Silver-Greenberg and Katie Thomas is a thorough and effective piece of investigative journalism. Mad pride!

From nytimes.com

(In recent weeks. the NYT has enabled a genocidal state, and continues to launder the reputation of anti-LGBT bigots like Pamela Paul, so this obviously exists in a context of all that has come before.)

The Mad Pride movement is worth exploring if you’re not familiar with it. Its advocacy (by us, for us) especially focuses on those detained by force in mental institutions, despite nobody believing them to be a threat to themselves or others. https://mindfreedom.org/about/faq/alt/mad/#:~:text=What%20is%20Mad%20Pride%3F,Rev.

The ms I’ve been working on, about “demons,” explores, among other things, the contradictions in our thinking about psychosis, arguing that psychosis is a necessary and practically universal dimension of contemporary life. (Basically re-upping Laing, but maybe going further.)

Anyway, schizophrenia is made up, mental hospitals should be abolished and replaced with voluntary peer-led care centers, the health insurance industry should be sold for scrap and replaced with a national health service, and capitalism should be abolished. By end of year if poss

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Having sorted out the mental health sector, Joe schools the Dean of Berkeley Law on the law.

Spoiler: Over confident legal analysis

Grace Lavery
@graceelavery

The Guardian today runs an interview with Erwin Chemerinski, the dean of Berkeley Law. He’s still misrepresenting the law governing his conduct. He held a work dinner at his home. He invited a cohort of Law School students. His home was, in fact, a workplace and 1A applied.

This is not to say that Chemerinski was not within his rights to require “reasonable restrictions on time, place, and manner” of his students’ speech. But he constantly talks as though when he holds work events in his home, he has no obligations beyond those of a private citizen.

The Guardian also declines to clarify Chemerinski’s claim that his wife Prof. Catherine Fisk “attempted to take away her microphone.” The student in question, Malak Afaneh, characterized Fisk’s actions as “assault.” Fisk rejects that characterization.
https://t.co/2rti0MyRte
From nbcnews.com

Assault is criminal conduct whether in a classroom or at home, and so the “private backyards” argument doesn’t apply. But to my mind the more unsettling aspect of this case is that the Dean of our Law School believes that his obligations to his students stop at his front door.

The two relevant questions: one, why is he holding work events in spaces where he believes he has no obligations? And two, can a scholar sometimes called ‘the preeminent scholar of the first amendment’ really make such a basic error, or is he deliberately misrepresenting the law?

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[Free the Pedos]

I motion to have Joe move in with Lucas Werner to correct the former's opinions about the existence of schizophrenia.

Joe, if when you read this, the NHS in your native land is about to be scrapped because it's no longer fit for purpose. Don't drag that shit over here.

I don't even hate the idea of nationalized healthcare that much. I just hate Joe.

 

[squirreltail]

voluntary peer-led care centers,

So, other mentally ill people (their peers) are meant to - what exactly? Hold hands with the severely psychotic?

(And lol at "abolish capitalism" from this Gucci wearing dipshit)

 

[Paul Enwerdhoeven]

mental hospitals should be abolished and replaced with voluntary peer-led care centers

America literally did this in the '60s and it's why we have so many homeless people now. Joe's ideas aren't just bad, they're old and derivative too.

 

[messyesty]

Having sorted out the mental health sector, Joe schools the Dean of Berkeley Law on the law.

The audacity here, from a literature professor who hasn't even bothered to apply for US citizenship, is mind-blowing. He clearly doesn't know who Chemerinsky is (it's not "Chemerinski,")--he's not just the Dean of UCB Law, he's probably one of the greatest living constitutional law scholars. He wrote the textbooks most students use for Con Law, and he is a nationally recognized expert on the first amendment. Joe was educated (mostly) in a country that arrests people for tweets.

 

[3MMA]

Moe tells some fellow gender blob on X that she knew what they told her already! She ain’t no dummy. Why, that was just absolutely a bit unnecessary to quip about any idea Moe should happen to bumble upon at any given moment because, of course, she knows anything they could possibly ever deign to imagine telling her about a subject she had dawdled about. She ain’t dumb, she just plays that way on social media, & the Chatner, & in her dreary shared marriage. It’s Moe’s schtick & just how dare you unnecessarily say a word or even condescend to hint that she may not know things about topics she breaches. Moe comes off rather touchy on the subjects of babies & teeth:

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[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Moe tells some fellow gender blob on X that she knew what they told her already! She ain’t no dummy. Why, that was just absolutely a bit unnecessary to quip about any idea Moe should happen to bumble upon at any given moment because, of course, she knows anything they could possibly ever deign to imagine telling her about a subject she had dawdled about. She ain’t dumb, she just plays that way on social media, & the Chatner, & in her dreary shared marriage. It’s Moe’s schtick & just how dare you unnecessarily say a word or even condescend to hint that she may not know things about topics she breaches. Moe comes off rather touchy on the subjects of babies & teeth:
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I think the lash out was due to this bit of phrasing, actually:

"his son"

Mallory said "my son" and this person said "his son." You love to see it. It never takes much to set off the tard rage with people this far gone.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

So, other mentally ill people (their peers) are meant to - what exactly? Hold hands with the severely psychotic?

(And lol at "abolish capitalism" from this Gucci wearing dipshit)

America literally did this in the '60s and it's why we have so many homeless people now. Joe's ideas aren't just bad, they're old and derivative too.

His ignorance is truly astonishing at times.

He must also be completely removed and uninvolved with his own students because almost any college professor would be familiar with witnessing an undergrad students suffering from prodromal, if not active, schizophrenia, and understand the need for hospitalization and mandatory inpatient care at times.

Joe suffers from the same stupidity that liberal arts academics of the 50’s and 1960’s did with their glamorization and misunderstanding of psychosis and severe mental illness. I’m sure having several psychiatric diagnoses himself feels fully equipped to speak for all mentally ill people of the world and what they need.

He should read Jonathan Rosen’s “The Best Minds: A story of friendship, madness and the tragedy of good intentions”.

Spoiler

Rosen is an actual successful writer, English degree from Yale but dropped out of Berkeley’s English Ph,D program because of the absurdity critical theory had made of it. He went on to write successful novels, but his most recent book was nonfiction about his childhood best friend, Michael Laudor, a prodigy, who was afflicted with schizophrenia after he graduated from Yale at 20. His friend went back to Yale, graduated Yale law school with lots of support, more support than the typical schizophrenic could ever dream of having. Afterwards he moved to NYC, went on off his meds and murdered his pregnant wife.

The book is about how academics in the humanities, and activists, have done incredible harm by romanticizing and glamorizing mental illness. (Many times because they themselves suffer from mild forms of it (depression, anxiety, etc..so want to conflate it all as similar or destigmatize it because they themselves got a label. As a result people suffering with severe mental illness have either been ignored or allowed to roam the streets untreated because of “civil rights” and activism that pretend these very sick people can make informed choices about their own well being).

Laudor was supposed to be the big success story that demonstrated even severely mentally ill people could succeed and run their own lives without interference, then he went a murdered his wife in a psychotic episode. A psychotic episode that occurred because he chose to stop taking his meds, a right he had championed hard to have, even having op-Ed in the NYT published arguing against forced medication and hospitalization. Now he’s committed to the Mid-Hudson Forensic Psychotherapy Center for the rest of his life.

 

[3MMA]

I think the lash out was due to this bit of phrasing, actually:

"his son"

Mallory said "my son" and this person said "his son." You love to see it. It never takes much to set off the tard rage with people this far gone.

What gave you that idea? Maybe that’s part of it, though the comments paint a different image imo, (though maybe I’m missing some obvious reference.) Mal comes off touchy that someone either informed her that babies have all their teeth at birth, or joked about her words which she seemed to take as a slight of her knowledge level.

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ETA:

the humanities, and activists, have done incredible harm by romanticizing and glamorizing mental illness. (Many times because they themselves suffer from mild forms of it (depression, anxiety, etc..so want to conflate it all as similar or destigmatize it because they themselves got a label. As a result people suffering with severe mental illness have either been ignored or allowed to roam the streets untreated because of “civil rights” and activism that pretend these very sick people can make informed choices about their own well being).

Spot on, & the same activists, nonprofits, & charities who run these campaigns & social programs usually end up with most of the grant money & fund raising proceeds. It’s a racket where those who are the intended recipients almost never see meaningful change in their lives, & the allegedly lofty minded bureaucrats end up with a nice new Summer home. Meanwhile the streets keep filling up with severely mentally ill people left untreated. Social programs (including the current version of harm reduction) need a complete overhaul if the majority of them ever want to stop functioning as money racket’s for the organizers & actually move to being something of help to society.

 

[TheMeanOne]

Joe, if when you read this, the NHS in your native land is about to be scrapped because it's no longer fit for purpose. Don't drag that shit over here.

Sort of OT but I heard Ann Coulter complaining on her podcast that it's easier for Medicaid patients to get approval than for people like her - state based on national health insurance IS way more efficient than private. However the insurance industry employs a LOT of people who aren't that bright and only have HS diplomas. It pays them enough to live on, maybe even have a kid. No politician is scrapping all those jobs, and losing all those votes. They're also not going to get more efficient just because end users want that; they basically have a captive audience.

Ahem. Joe is a fool. These tweets remind me of the time Karl Pilkington "invented" a watch that would tell you when you'd die. Ricky asks how would that work and Karl says "just pop it on your wrist." Joe is great at fantastical solutions but not the step by step to get there. How to fix healthcare? Oh just scrap it and replace it with something else! It'll be easy!

 

[Autistic Nonetheless]

I like Joe’s weird pop psych opinions. Not even that they are 50 years out of date, or at odds with mainstream queer/academic thinking; it’s that they are so uncompromisingly contrarian. No one is straight, prisons should be abolished, schizophrenia is a spook.

His books are the same way. Not a hint of careful or schematic thinking, just broad opinion from a guy who presumably wants to rebrand as a thinker and public intellectual.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

I read the AV Club when Todd was there. I'd never read anything about his transition (just noticed the changed byline, and eventually figured out that it wasn't a wife or sister who was also writing for the AVC.) So, I started reading that Vox piece and what should I find:



Mal helped Todd van der Werff troon out. Imagine looking at Mallory and how shit went for her and thinking 'Yup, sounds great! Sign me up!'

Wonder what 'Emily St James' thinks about 'Danny' now.

Oh, that's great, I hadn't re-read it. It's also great because look at how Todd describes it as this shared experience even though there's no reason "Danny" who is going from woman to man should have anything but the inverse experience from Todd. Yet it's abstracted to "gender" which is stripped of any meaning to explain how they both had the same meaningful experiences about it. Which is just typical human discomfort, nothing intrinsic to gender but they decide it must be gender related because they're obsessed about it.

Fresh from explaining why child rapists should be walking the streets, Joe advocates for distressed mentally ill people joining them (full thread in the spoiler).

Joe wants to abolish the police, prisons, mental institutions, the concept of crime itself, the entire legal system essentially, etc. but also wants a state monopoly over health care while he rants constantly about TERFs "politicizing" and "policing" bodies with the state. At no point does he ask how the state must maintain and operate this monopoly.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

oe wants to abolish the police, prisons, mental institutions, the concept of crime itself, the entire legal system essentially, etc. but also wants a state monopoly over health care while he rants constantly about TERFs "politicizing" and "policing" bodies with the state. At no point does he ask how the state must maintain and operate this monopoly.

It’s because he’s a generic borderline personality disorder headcase. Drama and chaos is what he wants and thrives on. He gets a hardon imagining all the upheaval from emptying the prisons and closing mental hospitals. Such fun!! Exciting!!

Mallory might have noticed this by now given how her life has ended up after five years of enabling this verbose, empty headed, narcissistic fool. I figure this was part of his “two years” of navel gazing psychoanalysis but instead of helping him it ended with him getting a broodmare and narcissistic breeding experiment.

Imagine having a macho name like Rocco but a prissy lispy faggot for a father and an unrelated woman pretending to be dad. They better put him in Montessori classes until he graduates high school.

 

[Potatis Salad]

Some classic Joe cookery to tantalize your tastebuds. This dish does not look outright disgusting to me (for once), but there's still plenty of joe ne sais quoi in there.

Spoiler: full caption

Another ludicrously complicated but utterly delicious late-summer feast, call it “smoked rice with chicken, kiwi, and cucumber.” I was interested to learn recently about rice-smoking in northern Iran—a preservative technique, but also delicious—so I cold-smoked two cups of (uncooked) jasmine rice over oak this morning, then tahdig’d it up with butter, cardamom, and plum. To accompany it, I roasted a chicken with sumac and dried kiwi fruit, which I’d hoped would turn out like a milder dried lime (an ingredient I already love). As a fresh bite on the side, I macerated cukes with coffee, orange blossom water, and saffron. I put little piles of garlic ash (the papery detritus from some confit garlic I made a couple of days ago, baked hot for half an hour, and crumbled). I garnished the plate with handfuls of pistachio and chamomile, with some more dehydrated kiwi, this time julienned. This was a lovely meal, and the most satisfying part of it was the smoky flavor in the rice.

Spoiler: pics

Once again, the enormous amount of time and money he spends, the extreme mess he creates, results in very little actual feeding of his family. Fucking GARLIC ASH? Coffee-soaked cucumbers? Spending the morning rigging up a cold smoker to smoke two fucking cups of rice? Defiling that very edible-looking roast chicken by plopping a massive wad of unchewable whole chamomile flowers on top? Lily comes home from work to discover that this is what her dickhead unemployed husband has spent the entire day doing...lol.

Meanwhile, who's caring for Rocco? Mallory, of course. Her latest mommyblog (archive) is titled "You've Got To Brush Even Baby Teeth Every Day, You Know". I'll put the full text under the spoiler below but, just like the minute-to-minute slog of infant care in which Tard Baby spends her days mired, it's not very fun. Womp womp.

Spoiler: Tard Baby's blog

You've Got To Brush Even Baby Teeth Every Day, You Know​

A few days ago, the baby produced his first tooth. It was like watching the volcanic formation of a new island chain: In the morning, he had no tooth at all on his little wax-pink gums. Then suddenly in the afternoon, there it was, as cheerful and as clear as dammit, poking just over his bottom lip, a ridiculous little nubbin of perfectly useless tooth. We were all beside ourselves, it was so ludicrous. It was as if the baby had put a little hat on his head, picked up a lunch pail, and announced he was heading down to the mill. A few times an hour, at least, Lily or Grace or I will draw the family’s attention back to the subject of the baby’s tooth — “Look at his tooth,” which we were probably already looking at anyways, in stunned amazement. There it is; there it must be looked at. I imagine woolly mammoths did much the same thing when a new glacier arrived in the neighborhood, saying “Will you look at that” not so much because nobody was looking at it, but because everybody already was, and that sort of thing requires frequent acknowledgement. Will you look at that. A tooth in a baby’s mouth. Likely place for it to be, and yet what an unexpected development just the same.

What is he supposed to do with a tooth? Not a blessed thing. He might as well have grown a coffee grinder or a pencil sharpener, for all the use he can get out of it. He’s only just figured out what to do with his neck, and even that’s not 100% yet.


But we’ve got to do something about it. As soon as your baby gets teeth1 you’re supposed to start brushing them — never mind that he can use them to chew precisely nothing. They’re purely ornamental at this point. But brushed they’ve nevertheless got to be, and that twice a day, just as faithfully as if his diet consisted of old bread and boiled turnips, even though in reality he lies around drinking milk all day, like if Caligula were also Amish. So to that end we have purchased a little donut-shaped baby toothbrush, which we dutifully dampen with water and drag over the quarter-inch surface of teeth he’s got in his mouth every morning and evening.2 His teeth do not toil; neither do they spin, yet Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like these.

One of the most splendid things, incidentally, about a little baby is that they wake up about five hundred times a day. Over and over again they wake up. It’s wonderful to get to greet a little well-rested creature suddenly restored to agreeable consciousness. “Good morning,” you get to say again. “Hello, and good morning,” again. “Time to start the day,” as a little fat face breaks into a wreath of smiles beneath your own.3

They say you’re supposed to spend two minutes on each toothbrushing session, but I don’t see how we could possibly spend a full minute on each tooth. They’re not even all the way up yet. If his mouth were a toaster oven, the visible part of his teeth is just the tops of the crust. That’s what is really marvelous about baby teeth, I think; they’re perfectly miniaturized and correct and immaculately useless at the same time, like Royal Doulton figurines, but you’ve nonetheless got to take them just as seriously as if they were your own, like a Royal Doulton figurine with a job. Looking after a baby, your day is riddled with silly little jobs. How silly, how nice. I never had a baby before this, and I lived thirty-seven years in the world before I came to know this one, so it’s all very agreeably novel.

I like being one of the stewards of his baby teeth. They’re only practice ones, anyhow, so even if we accidentally scrub them out of his head, he can always grow new ones. Babies are practical like that. They come out prepared for anything and ready for nothing, bless them.


1
A second tooth followed the first the very next day; if current trends persist, this boy is going to be mostly teeth before the end of the month.
2
The jury seems split on whether he’s too young for baby toothpaste or not, so we occasionally add a whisper-sized daub on the bristles and add that to the mix. Purely a formality, you understand. Like a faded Southern dowager in a Tennessee Williams play who insists on observing the old customs from the long-vanished days of plenty. “We know it does no good, but it helps the poor dear, you know.”
3
Sometimes the little fat face is shouting at you, of course. But seven times out of ten he wakes up pretty pleased with himself, and the rest of the time he can usually be coaxed into laughter by saying something with a plosive “Buh” or “Duh” sound, vaudeville be damned.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

I macerated cukes with coffee

That's it. I've looked at dozens of putrid stinkditches and rot dogs on this site. But this is the one that's gonna make me hurl.

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

That's it. I've looked at dozens of putrid stinkditches and rot dogs on this site. But this is the one that's gonna make me hurl.

Just like with lesbians and stinkditches - Joe don't get that you have make it appetizing for them to eat it.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Once again, the enormous amount of time and money he spends, the extreme mess he creates, results in very little actual feeding of his family. Fucking GARLIC ASH? Coffee-soaked cucumbers? Spending the morning rigging up a cold smoker to smoke two fucking cups of rice? Defiling that very edible-looking roast chicken by plopping a massive wad of unchewable whole chamomile flowers on top? Lily comes home from work to discover that this is what her dickhead unemployed husband has spent the entire day doing...l

Imagine an actual mother of a five month old having this much time to waste by in the kitchen on inedible bullshit. Male privilege at its finest.

Of course Joe trying to show off his culinary genius means Mallory and Lilly have to deal with actual work and infant care so Joey can play in the kitchen making messes.

Lilly and Mallory are such ridiculous suckers. I now believe neither Mo or Lilly are lesbians because not even the most retarded woke lesbian on the planet would go along with this farce. This is strictly subservient females sacrificing to bolster the ego of a weak man.

 

[behindyourightnow]

I feel so depressed when I see yet another male crossdresser having fun and preening about how much of a woman he is, while the real woman slaves away in the background doing all the actual female-coded domestic drudgery. I don't know why, because they bring it upon themselves. Secondhand bleakness? Because there are children involved, maybe.

I'm trying to decide whether this is better or worse than the "black trans girl in Maine" situation from a little while back where a transwoman pretended online to be pregnant (he claimed to have had a uterus transplant, you'd be surprised how many handmaidens believed him) and then it came out that a pregnancy did exist, in the form of him using his FtM wife as a birthing slave. After the baby was born, he kept up posing and bragging online for a few months before he decided that actual babies were boring and not euphoric enough, and then fucked off.

In that case he basically stole all the good parts of pregnancy (like attention and praise) from her, and used her as closeted breeding stock. But at least she got to keep the baby she bonded with.

 

[monstrous bubo]

Tard Baby is shilling signed copies of her book via a NY bookstore, and for some reason I read this bit of the blurb again.

The Beidermeier might be several rungs lower on the ladder than the real-life Barbizon, but its residents manage to occupy one another nonetheless. There's Katherine, the first-floor manager, lightly cynical and more than lightly suggestible. There's Lucianne, a workshy party girl caught between the love of comfort and an instinctive bridling at convention, Kitty the sponger, Ruth the failed hairdresser, and Pauline the typesetter. And there's Stephen, the daytime elevator operator and part-time Cooper Union student.

Putting to one side how one can be simultaneously ”lightly cynical and more than lightly suggestible”, I like how Mal has based Lucianne and Kitty on her husband. If anyone reads this, can you please spot Lily for us, as well as Mal’s self-insert?