Official Kiwifarms Incel Hate Thread

[crazedaze]

> be @Endlosung
> take seriously what incels say on incels.is
> incels.is talks about women as objects made for moid pleasure and use
> "moids are entitled to girlfriends as teens for their mental health because women exist for moid use"
> "This rhetoric that every man that age is evil by his very nature is just reversed incel-talk"
Funny I can't imagine women attempting to scientifically argue that men owe us what we want we want we waaaaaant for our fucking mental health, we either are desired or we cope like adults. Never seen a woman freak out about government-granted boyfriends and legal rape because we are owed what we want.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I think this is mostly a thing incels believe because of movies where high school romance is portrayed in an idealistic way. Plus they just can't get over Stacy rejecting them. Dating in High School actually sucks cause teenagers (especially boys) are sociopathic little shits and the only thing to gain from it is experience in what to avoid in a guy going forward. Puberty + heartbreak is actually a horrible combination and from my memory it was just constant drama and girls being pressured into having sex they weren't ready for.

Maybe this is a generational thing, but there were girls in my high school who were as interested in sex as the boys. I don't think it is an Andrea Dworkin-style fear around sex and I don't think the idealism of teenage love is as much of a component in incel psychology as rejection is - or the fear of rejection. This has more to do with insecurity, though, and less with women.

I've encountered incels who bemoaned rejection and I told them that I was a strike-out king. Behind every milquetoast date that I got, there were dozens of rejections both polite and harsh. You just have to accept that and put yourself out there. Incels, however, cannot do this because they are insecure. They do not want to be vulnerable, ever, which is an impossible way to live your life.

 

[Endlosung]

<yapping>

Low quality post. The demographic she was referring to was not incels.is users, but young boys in general. Not to mention I'm literally arguing against any form of hatred based on gender alone, and you're acting as if I agree with unironic state mandated girlfriend program, raping women as a form of reparations for them dating chads or any other bullshit you can read on that god-forsaken forum. Are you a part of the 21% of US adults with a below 5th-grade reading level?

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

No it doesn't. Another incel lie

It does in an indrect way, as it is the lack of an experience which, for mentally unstable and not very social people like the incels are, can have negative repercussions down the line. Should we just give every loner teen a gf so that he doesn't become part of the alt-right incel blackpill ideology? No, because they will 9 times out of 10 squander said oportunity for a healthy relationship and go back to square one, but it is a situation that should be addressed and acknowledged, because the more time it passes, the more likely is for the loner teen to turn into a full-blown incel.

That's what happened with Elliot Rodger, he was somewhat arrogant since he was born, his parents didn't address his problems relating to lack of friendships and antagonism of his peers, instead letting him play WoW all day because that was more convenient for them, he grew up socially stunted and surrounded by socialites, which in his mind gave him the right to be recognized and loved by everyone, said worldview was crushed by the reality that this wasn't the case, he had no way to cope nor self-reflect, and instead began thinking that the world hated him and he was justified in hating it back.

Most teens don't even look at "love" as some checklist goal the way incels do

Duh, teens and adults think about the same things in different ways, but that's because incels start from a misunderstanding of what love is, due to either not having experienced or not being empathic enough to understand how the experience is, which then devolves into obssesion, resentment, and hatred, all birthed from said misunderstanding.

They do not want to be vulnerable, ever, which is an impossible way to live your life.

Literally Neon Genesis Evangelion

 

[crazedaze]

Low quality post. The demographic she was referring too was not incels.is users, but young boys in general. Not to mention I'm literally arguing against any form of hatred based on gender alone, and you're acting as if I agree with unironic state mandated girlfriend program, raping women as a form of reparations for them dating chads or any other bullshit you can read on that god-forsaken forum. Are you a part of the 21% of US adults with a below 5th-grade reading level?

I understand that reading comprehension is not your forte. YOU said "go read incels.is". Who gives a fuck what those retarded say, they're parroting the shit that's been fed to them by other incels. Incels on incels.is say rape and govt gfs - YOU referred us to what they think - is this so hard to follow along? What they say is garbage and youre retarded for telling us to give a shit what they write. Hope that's clearer now. Woo you are fucking retarded lol

 

[Lidl Drip]

I knew a few fairly decent girls who got played/hurt by guys with bad rep, too. Never really understood how some women make such bad choices when every other guy clearly sees that this man is an awful candidate for a partner.

We aren't talking about "women" we are talk about high school girls. Of course they don't have experience with spotting red flags yet because it's their first time dating and all the know about men is from movies where men are kind and romantic, basically the opposite of hormonal sociopathic drooling high school boys. But ofc you are an incel so teenage girls experiencing bad relationships is their punishment for not chosing you. Don't even pretend like you're not an incel because you obviously are from the way you talk and that's why you came in here to defend incels. You even admit you're an incels.is user.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Literally Neon Genesis Evangelion

Yes.

I understand that reading comprehension is not your forte. YOU said "go read incels.is". Who gives a fuck what those retarded say, they're parroting the shit that's been fed to them by other incels. Incels on incels.is say rape and govt gfs - YOU referred us to what they think - is this so hard to follow along? What they say is garbage and youre retarded for telling us to give a shit what they write. Hope that's clearer now. Woo you are fucking retarded lol

I read his post and, respectfully, I feel like you are hyper-focusing on incel.is just a tad.

 

[crazedaze]

Yes.

I read his post and, respectfully, I feel like you are hyper-focusing on incel.is just a tad.

Hyperfocusing? Or addressing what he said? "Incels really are victims of minor girls not giving them what they want, just ask them " lmao clown

 

[Lidl Drip]

Hyper focusing on "high school romance" as an adult man is creepy as fuck btw. Best case scenario you're just an emotionally stunted retard if you're 30 and still crying about that shit, worst case scenario you're a nonce who isn't interested in adult women at all and crying cause you missed the only age where it was socially acceptable for you to bang a 14 year old girl (this is most incels).

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Hyperfocusing? Or addressing what he said? "Incels really are victims of minor girls not giving them what they want, just ask them " lmao clown

I don't think that's what he said, though. His opinion seems to be that teenagers, both boys and girls, do stupid shit at a time when they're fucking stupid - which is demonstrably true.

Hyper focusing on "high school romance" as an adult man is creepy as fuck btw. Best case scenario you're just an emotionally stunted retard if you're 30 and still crying about that shit, worst case scenario you're a nonce who isn't interested in adult women at all and crying cause you missed the only age where it was socially acceptable for you to bang a 14 year old girl (this is most incels).

To your first point: if you are a teenage boy and have absolutely no experience with women, you are going to grow up to be a fucktard. A lot of incels exist now because they can retreat into the Internet with their insecurities and never experience life. When I was growing up, you could not easily do this, and even the D&D and video game dorks got forced into social interaction one way or another. They were socialized and had to face a major part of life, which is failing, humiliating yourself, and learning from it. Incels want to avoid this altogether and it is possible in this day and age to do so.

I agree completely with your second point.

 

[crazedaze]

I don't think that's what he said, though. His opinion seems to be that teenagers, both boys and girls, do stupid shit at a time when they're fucking stupid - which is demonstrably true.

Here, I'll feed it to you, in order so you can perhaps understand

Go on incels.is and see for yourself that half of the threads have at least one mention about missing out on teenage love, how they blame it on their shitty life and all that stuff; it doesn't have to be the reason, but you can definitely see it takes a big toll on their mental health,

> be @Endlosung
> take seriously what incels say on incels.is
> incels.is talks about women as objects made for moid pleasure and use
> "moids are entitled to girlfriends as teens for their mental health because women exist for moid use"
> "This rhetoric that every man that age is evil by his very nature is just reversed incel-talk"
Funny I can't imagine women attempting to scientifically argue that men owe us what we want we want we waaaaaant for our fucking mental health, we either are desired or we cope like adults. Never seen a woman freak out about government-granted boyfriends and legal rape because we are owed what we want.

Really this shouldn't be this hard. He said incels.is idiots say that little girls are responsible for their mental health by giving them what they want. I was addressing that. Reading is SO. HARD.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

Hyper focusing on "high school romance" as an adult man is creepy as fuck btw. Best case scenario you're just an emotionally stunted retard if you're 30 and still crying about that shit, worst case scenario you're a nonce who isn't interested in adult women at all and crying cause you missed the only age where it was socially acceptable for you to bang a 14 year old girl (this is most incels).

Most incels, the ones of the type of "I never had a gf, the world hates me, moids are so insufferable, the chads and the stacies and the jocks" yada yada, that do act out are in their mid or early 20s. Elliot Rodger, Tres Genco, Chris Harper-Mercer, Alek Minassian, and others like that were. The ones that remain are socially stunted, that's true, but that's because they got into this as teens or in their early 20s and, due to being in an enviroment that actively opposed improving your outlook at life, they stayed that way. We must remember that Isla Vista was 10 years ago, and the incels existed as a fairly large group for a time before that.

I think that focusing on the root of the issue and tackling it before it becomes irreversible is important

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Really this shouldn't be this hard. He said incels.is idiots say that little girls are responsible for their mental health by giving them what they want. I was addressing that. Reading is SO. HARD.

In the very post that you quote, he is saying that some incels say being rejected or not having a teenage romance is what made them hate women. That is not the same as saying "teenage girls didn't let me rape them, so I have the big mad."

You are making quite the jump and putting words in his mouth, which is neither honest nor fair.

 

[Ms. Dia Gnosis]

The idea that men must fuck girls in hs or they devolve into women-hating rape apologists somehow makes them look even worse

 

[crazedaze]

In the very post that you quote, he is saying that some incels say being rejected or not having a teenage romance is what made them hate women. That is not the same as saying "teenage girls didn't let me rape them, so I have the big mad."

You are making quite the jump and putting words in his mouth, which is neither honest nor fair.

I thunk you just like to argue sir this is the incel hate thread

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

I thunk you just like to argue sir this is the incel hate thread

I think that you must understand what you hate in the first place if you want to do it properly

 

[crazedaze]

I think that you must understand what you hate in the first place if you want to do it properly

I understand. You said elsewhere "I don't like foids much", Johnny argues with the woman haters in the woman hate thread, and losung is an incel obviously. Opinions all soundly discarded

 

[Anti Snigger]

I think having friendships with women is super important for developing healthy relationships and views. I do mean friendships, not orbiting to get laid.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I understand. You said elsewhere "I don't like foids much", Johnny argues with the woman haters in the woman hate thread, and losung is an incel obviously. Opinions all soundly discarded

I'm not certain what you aimed to accomplish by going into a thread, arguing with users, and then declaring that all the users you chose to argue with are dumb, but I'm glad we could help you.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Most incels, the ones of the type of "I never had a gf, the world hates me, moids are so insufferable, the chads and the stacies and the jocks" yada yada, that do act out are in their mid or early 20s. Elliot Rodger, Tres Genco, Chris Harper-Mercer, Alek Minassian, and others like that were. The ones that remain are socially stunted, that's true, but that's because they got into this as teens or in their early 20s and, due to being in an enviroment that actively opposed improving your outlook at life, they stayed that way. We must remember that Isla Vista was 10 years ago, and the incels existed as a fairly large group for a time before that.

I think that focusing on the root of the issue and tackling it before it becomes irreversible is important

Incels are a byproduct of natural selection. The idea that there is someone for everyone is just not true. Nature made women the selectors and they should only select those men who have the best genetics, make for good providers and fathers and will give the best offspring, this is essential for ensuring a healthy happy society. When women are forced to reproduce with inferior males through things like arranged/forced marriage you get places like India.

The only issue with incels is that they refuse to accept that they aren't entitled to women and they should dedicate their life to serving society in other ways instead of acting out violently.