I used to watch Tim Pool, until I started seeing his repetitive pattern of Read bombastic headline > "but before we start...." [talks about how great his company is and and begs for money] > Read a little bit of the article > starts rambling, being a fence sitter and declaring CIVIL WAR for the milionth time
Can't stand the guy, but I don't remember him being a outright liar.
He sounded honest, as much as an arrogant adulterer can be
States/politicians fund media companies all the time
Fucking Anderson Cooper from CNN is a CIA agent
Am I supposed to discard valid arguments because the sociopaths in charge of my country don't like the sociopaths in charge of Russia?
I go to sleep, expecting another boring day of clipping a livestream, only to awaken to news that Tim, aka Commentator-2, is part of a federal indictment, & was allegedly being paid by Russian-state media to post videos through their go-between, fellow mixed race Asian, Lauren Chen. The whole indictment has been appended to this post, but I am clipping the sections relevant to the beanie boy:
*Kostiantyn Kalashnikov: Russia Today (RT) employee
*Elena Afanasyeva: Russia Today (RT) employee
*U.S. Company-1: Tenet Media
*Founder-1: presumably Lauren Chen, wife to Liam Donovan
*Founder-2: presumably Liam Donovan, husband to Lauren Chen
*Eduard Grigoriann: a fake investor, used by the Russians to cover their involvement
*Persona-1 to 3: assistants to "Eduard", also false identities
*Commentator-1: Could be either Dave Rubin, or Benny Johnson
*Commentator-2: presumably Tim Pool, unwitting Russian propagandist
The story begins with an alleged effort by RT to circumvent restrictions & sanctions placed upon the outlet in the wake of the 2022 Ukraine War. Via funding "an entire empire of covert projects", including Tenet Media, using shell companies, & an imaginary investor named Eduard Grigoriann, "to weaken U.S. opposition to core Government of Russia interests". Two employees of RT, Elena Afanasyeva & Kostiantyn Kalashnikov, spearheaded the operation & sought to influence the editorial decisions of alternative media outlets without it coming directly from Russia:
This would involve using Lauren Chen & Liam Donovan, co-founders of Tenet, as a way to circumvent the Foreign Agents Registration Act. Lauren had previously been paid by RT to publish articles & videos. This offered an avenue for RT to approach her, albeit under false identities to fund & direct Tenet's content:
Lauren & Liam would seemingly be aware that they were working for "Russians" & not a purported Western European. Supposedly, this was never mentioned to Tim, during negotiations Lauren & Liam had with him.
But in order to staff Tenet, Lauren required funding, which the two RT employees were happy to provide, even after Lauren warned that it would cost "well over 2 million a year" to establish a contract for Tim to join Tenet. Persona-1 said that is fine, so long "as we get the right person on board". With this approval from Persona-1, Lauren reached out to Tim to have him join Tenet but Tim argued that he required "100k per weekly episode to make it worth his while":
But, rest assured, Tim Pool is no fool, he insisted on speaking with this Eduard chap, himself. After having his request for Eduard to directly call his phone denied, the representatives for Eduard pushed to use WhatsApp, or Zoom. Apparently this went well, as Lauren said Tim was "happy with the licensing arrangement", but still wanted to know more about whom he was going to work with. To assuage his fears, Lauren recommended that Tim just "finalize the contract and begin working to put his show together", first, as there would be plenty of time to get to know his new business partners, after:
This argument must have worked, because Tim signed the contract:
The greatest part of this is not that Tim may have been duped into taking money to push the propaganda of a foreign power. It is the fact that Tim was a bad return on investment for the foreign power. RT thought they were getting quality content creators to push their message, but Tim only "shared...one video this week" of his Tenet content, despite being one of three commentators consuming nearly all of the $9.7 million that was given to Tenet:
Tim had Anthony Constantino, CEO of Sticker Mule, as the guest.
Hannah & Ian were the co-hosts.
While Tim did make the show about himself, due to the recent news, Anthony & the rest of the panel were able to circumvent it for a good bit of the episode, so it was not as beanie-blather dominated, as usual.
Clip Collection:
-Tim knows well enough not to talk, at length, about his upcoming lawsuit against Kamala Harris. But Tim is always happy to talk about being included in a federal indictment:
-Hannah complains about how the media is talking about the indictment & not other major news stories. Only for Tim to go on to discuss the indictment, at length, which means less time for more meaningful stories:
-Ian discusses the need for a shared language to prevent confusion, but agrees with Hannah on the value in having one's own particular verbiage as well. Ian compares this to how in Dungeon & Dragons, there is Common which nearly everyone speaks but there are racial languages, "Dwarves also know Dwarvish, the Elves know Elvish", with intelligent humans able to speak them, too. Ian points to Anthony, noting he is clearly intelligent, as he speaks Spanish, as if it were another one of the non-human languages. Anthony looks confused on how to take this statement:
-Anthony does make an astute observation, where mail-in ballots are more vulnerable to people being intimidated into filling out a ballot & have no privacy to vote as they truly want:
-Tim mentions wanting to bring Donald Trump onto The Culture War, which was the same show which was licensed for Tenet. I expect this would certainly not be a bad bit of optics, considering the recent news. Surely, Trump appearing on a show that was recently funded by Russia could not be a colossal misstep for him to do. Ian volunteers to join Tim to talk with Trump in order to keep the conversation lively. I can guarantee if Ian was at the same table as Trump, it would certainly be something:
Technically, yes. Russia hired people to promote Trump and Republicans because they knew Trump would be easy to manipulate because he's a retarded narcissist who will do anything if you praise him. They hired westerners (like Pool) to promote him, Russians to post on sites like 4chan, Twitter, Facebook, etc... to promote him and made a bunch of fake accounts to do so.
They didn't like hack or anything, but they did spread and promote outright lies through those channels.
Whether that's election interference or not is up to the viewer's discretion, but apparently it is to the DOJ and is pretty illegal.
Anyone who was retarded enough to take Russian money to promote Russian propaganda after the 2020 election is functionally retarded and deserves to be in jail for being so stupid
It still wouldn't fly in a court of law though. All DOJ has to prove is if Tim said any pro-Russian stuff, which he did, and if he accepted money from the front company, which he did. Timeline doesn't even matter that much because Russia is paying for influencers, so if they find someone who is already pre-disposed to their side anyways, funding him is still influencing him to do it more.
What I really expect is that Tim drops his frivolous lawsuit at Kamala Harris in exchange for not getting prosecuted. He is a coward, at the end of the day and we all know the US leans on Google to censor people.
Technically, yes. Russia hired people to promote Trump and Republicans because they knew Trump would be easy to manipulate because he's a retarded narcissist who will do anything if you praise him. They hired westerners (like Pool) to promote him, Russians to post on sites like 4chan, Twitter, Facebook, etc... to promote him and made a bunch of fake accounts to do so.
They didn't like hack or anything, but they did spread and promote outright lies through those channels.
Whether that's election interference or not is up to the viewer's discretion, but apparently it is to the DOJ and is pretty illegal.
Anyone who was retarded enough to take Russian money to promote Russian propaganda after the 2020 election is functionally retarded and deserves to be in jail for being so stupid
Perhaps they have the saying in Russia, we got it here in the States: "you went to the well one too many times". You had two election cycles to grift and you went for the third one and you got got. I mean, pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered. Maybe Milo is happy he's such a fag he become too toxic to get wrapped up in this shit, at least he's not being indicted.
The reason for indictment is that Tenant was circumventing this registration in an effort to hide the true source of their funding.
If you find that Israel or another foreign agent is not registered and paying for commentary than bring it to the DOJ. But if you look into AIPAC or other foreign borne media you will find them registered. The FCC/DOJ expects you the consumer to be diligent in researching where your media comes from, when you hide funding or in this case create shell companies and lie about the funding you are depriving the citizen from their ability to accurately vet media funding.
But if you uncover a bunch of dark Israeli money funding someone feel free to post it.
Apples to oranges here, the Israel money is all above board. Israel is smart enough to just do their influence out in the open. Say what you want about the jews, but they ain't afraid to show the cash.
It still wouldn't fly in a court of law though. All DOJ has to prove is if Tim said any pro-Russian stuff, which he did, and if he accepted money from the front company, which he did. Timeline doesn't even matter that much because Russia is paying for influencers, so if they find someone who is already pre-disposed to their side anyways, funding him is still influencing him to do it more.
What I really expect is that Tim drops his frivolous lawsuit at Kamala Harris in exchange for not getting prosecuted. He is a coward, at the end of the day and we all know the US leans on Google to censor people.
-Ian discusses the need for a shared language to prevent confusion, but agrees with Hannah on the value in having one's own particular verbiage as well. Ian compares this to how in Dungeon & Dragons, there is Common which nearly everyone speaks but there are racial languages, "Dwarves also know Dwarvish, the Elves know Elvish", with intelligent humans able to speak them, too. Ian points to Anthony, noting he is clearly intelligent, as he speaks Spanish, as if it were another one of the non-human languages. Anthony looks confused on how to take this statement:
The story begins with an alleged effort by RT to circumvent restrictions & sanctions placed upon the outlet in the wake of the 2022 Ukraine War. Via funding "an entire empire of covert projects", including Tenet Media, using shell companies, & an imaginary investor named Eduard Grigoriann, "to weaken U.S. opposition to core Government of Russia interests". Two employees of RT, Elena Afanasyeva & Kostiantyn Kalashnikov, spearheaded the operation & sought to influence the editorial decisions of alternative media outlets without it coming directly from Russia:
I don't remember Tim ever taking a position beyond "war bad, why are we funding this?" I'd like to see the timeline of when exactly this deal was negotiated / reached and compare it with Tim's takes regarding Ukraine.
I can see Tim being an unwitting participant in this because he's can't judge people for shit, but then I have to ask what was the point of RT paying him when his reach is already about as big as it could be, he's already saying something they like, and the funding wouldn't really accomplish anything?
Technically, yes. Russia hired people to promote Trump and Republicans because they knew Trump would be easy to manipulate because he's a retarded narcissist who will do anything if you praise him. They hired westerners (like Pool) to promote him, Russians to post on sites like 4chan, Twitter, Facebook, etc... to promote him and made a bunch of fake accounts to do so.
You're right Hulk hey hope what are your thoughts on Joseph McCarthy and the fact that he was going after Soviet spies and declassified CIA and KGB documents prove that every single person he was going after with a Soviet agent or does not count when a democratic administration do it or the fact that the civil rights movement was funded by the Soviet Union to undermine the United states or does that not count because admitting that Martin Luther King was an agent of a foreign government would destroy your basic worldview well how about the anti war protests during the Vietnam War but I'm sure you're a draft Dodger you're not the type of person you know actually has convictions
Democrats don't actually care about America's national security never have never will throughout the entirety of the FDR administration basically his administration was filled with confirmed Soviet spies up to the highest echelons hell even one of the head guys on the Manhattan Project was giving almost all of the blueprints directly to the USSR
also there's much more evidence that Obama is an agent of a foreign government Obama has ties with bill iowa's who was tied directly to the weatherman underground which was funded by the Soviet Union and other South American communist groups who took the marching orders from Moscow.
Don't forget hunter biden's shady Chinese dealings with companies where he's getting paid millions of dollars or the fact that he was on the board of burisma don't know how to buy knew so much about natural gas
They didn't like hack or anything, but they did spread and promote outright lies through those channels.
Whether that's election interference or not is up to the viewer's discretion, but apparently it is to the DOJ and is pretty illegal.
Anyone who was retarded enough to take Russian money to promote Russian propaganda after the 2020 election is functionally retarded and deserves to be in jail for being so stupid
hey is the FBI working on behalf of the Biden Harris campaign having people take down stories that are negative about him that's definitely election interference but it's OK because you know the FBI is the one who is doing it the hunter buying laptop story would have sank his campaign but it's OK because you know it was the FBI and CIA doing that's different when they interfere in US elections
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but I'm sure hope you deeply care about America's national security fun fact people like Hulk had no problem with Soviets running amok for the better part of 55 years in America and we're all against using the state to go after people until they gain control of the CIA then they'll totally be OK with it it's almost like communist like Hulk Hogan love the idea of American patriotism only when they can pretend to believe in it so they can browbeat people who actually like the country pretty sure the founding fathers would have people like Hulk Hogan dragged behind a woodshed and have two bullets put in the back of his head for betraying the nation on behalf of a bunch of foreign governments but hawk is the real patriot for defending America's democracy from the people even though we're a Republic
The reason for indictment is that Tenant was circumventing this registration in an effort to hide the true source of their funding.
If you find that Israel or another foreign agent is not registered and paying for commentary than bring it to the DOJ. But if you look into AIPAC or other foreign borne media you will find them registered. The FCC/DOJ expects you the consumer to be diligent in researching where your media comes from, when you hide funding or in this case create shell companies and lie about the funding you are depriving the citizen from their ability to accurately vet media funding.
But if you uncover a bunch of dark Israeli money funding someone feel free to post it.
That laws never actually enforced if it was then Joe Biden would be in prison for Hunter's connections to the CCP every single former Soviet spy would be in prison for violating it and Martin Luther King would have been locked up along with every member of the civil rights movement because almost all of the funding was coming from the Soviet Union
the Israeli lobby also should be labeled as a foreign agent same thing with the ADL the FBI actually busted the ADL for taking money from the Israeli government but they never got any trouble because for some reason the state of Israel manipulating American politics is totally OK for reasons.
Don't forget Hillary clinton's influence peddling through the Clinton Foundation oh I'm sorry there was just a bunch of donations from all these rich Saudi royal families and other groups that wasn't influencing Hillary Clinton she wasn't influencing anything to a position as Secretary of State.
I know the human instinct is to just cash the checks but maybe if I was being paid 400k to record a shitty little 10 minute youtube video that was in no way worth 4K, let alone 400K I'd at least ask my accountant to track down who exactly is so fucking stupid and why I'm the lucky fella cashing the checks.
Just a reminder to anyone who considers talking to the FBI. If they think you're lying to them, that's a felony and it's up to you to prove your innocence. That's why you have lawyers present, especially when you're a journalist the Vice President openly dislikes.
I know the human instinct is to just cash the checks but maybe if I was being paid 400k to record a shitty little 10 minute youtube video that was in no way worth 4K
In fairness, Tim is used to putting out 3-hour shitty youtube videos that are in no way worth $40, so he's used to getting paid a lot for nothing-doing.
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Just a reminder to anyone who considers talking to the FBI. If they think you're lying to them, that's a felony and it's up to you to prove your innocence. That's why you have lawyers present, especially when you're a journalist the Vice President openly dislikes.
Admittedly, it would be fitting if this is the downfall Tim's hubris brings about. Thinking he could talk to feds who want to destroy him and escape unscathed because he is so smrt.
