Trashfire TENET Media / Lauren "Chen" / Lauren Yu Sum Tam & Liam Donovan - Rightoid grifting network funded by the Kremlin, were the sole live reporters at AFPAC IV. Hired Tim Pool, Lauren Southern, Dave Rubin and others.

[AltisticRight]

BTW, a number of media outlets are now reporting that Chen isn't even her real name, and her actual legal name (on business documents related to Tenet, etc.) is Lauren Yu Sum Tam. Sometimes shortened to just Lauren Tam.

Way to tick another trick of us stateless diasporas, Lauren, by having a dubious "fake" name.
Difference is, most of us aren't taking gibs from other nation states to push their propaganda on the citizens of the countries we're living in. Pathetic.

Yu Sum Tam, yeah that's either a Cantonese or Min Chinese Romanisation. Her surname is highly likely to be 譚 (tan) or 陳 (chen) in this case. It gets complicated because the two characters are pronounced completely differently in Chinese.
Chen or 陳 would be related to Tam in Min Chinese dialects, which pins her father side's origin to somewhere along the southern coast of China. I would guess her father speaks the Min dialect and Chen is simply the other Romanisation of her actual surname Tam.

It's pretty common for the second generation of the Chinese diaspora to put both English and Chinese names together. For example, John Chang's legal full name could be John Ching Chong Chang.
Her real name sounds pretty masculine too, I really wonder how it's written.

Oh, it looks like mainstream media failed to pick up on this fact which can be ascertained by asking literally any speaker of Min Chinese (large dialect). Journalism at its finest.

 

[nym]

Yu Sum Tam, yeah that's either a Cantonese or Min Chinese Romanisation. Her surname is highly likely to be 譚 (tan) or 陳 (chen) in this case. It gets complicated because the two characters are pronounced completely differently in Chinese.

Cantonese are the HK exiles, though, which you expect from her family. Not sure what this is indicating.
You're either asking Cantonese or Mandarin (I think, I dunno not an expert here, but I think I'm right) -- and in this case, it doesn't seem to be saying much damning. The HK Chinks were always our allies. (And honestly, I'd put more effort into defending them, generally, than say, Ukraine....)
nah, I think we're looking at someone acting on their own, yeah?
[literally all i know of it is obviously this scene from Wayne's World https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DivHqBN89g]

 

[Major von der Westfront]

All I'm going to say is that it's strange that they can "find" all of the Russian influence operations but are silent about the pro-censorship NGOs that are funded by foreign dark money.

I know this probably has been mentioned like 50 times already, but they conveniently "found" an influence operation less than 2 months away from the election?

Not that I really care for the people involved, but I just find the timing and the circumstances pretty shady.

According to the Indictment, they've been watching these two since 2021.

 

[AltisticRight]

Cantonese are the HK exiles, though, which you expect from her family. Not sure what this is indicating.
You're either asking Cantonese or Mandarin (I think, I dunno not an expert here, but I think I'm right) -- and in this case, it doesn't seem to be saying much damning. The HK Chinks were always our allies. (And honestly, I'd put more effort into defending them, generally, than say, Ukraine....)
nah, I think we're looking at someone acting on their own, yeah?
[literally all i know of it is obviously this scene from Wayne's World https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DivHqBN89g]

Read the post again.
Both Tan/Tam 譚 and Chen/Chan 陳 which is in Lauren "Roaming Millennial" Chen's screen name can be romanised as Tam, depending on the dialect.
Min: 陳 Chen can be romanised as Tam, in her legal name.
Yue: 譚 Tan is romanised as Tam.

Her dad's probably not natively Cantonese, otherwise the random surname she chose just happened to Romanise as Tam in the Min dialect.
Cantonese aren't HK exiles, what the fuck? Where did this even come from? Are you sure you know what you're talking about?

Actually, I think it gets weirder. 陳 is romanised as Tan only in Min, not Tam. I just asked someone.
However, Tan is romanised as Tam in Cantonese.

She likely picked up Chen after her stay in Mainland China. Her real surname is Tam 譚 (Tan). She used Chen because it's romanised as Tan in Min. The exact same spelling Tan is romanised as Tam in Canton.

 

[nym]

Are you sure you know what you're talking about?

Do you?

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

Whining that the state calls you subversive because you have been caught shilling talking points written at the desk of Putin is such a dumb stand to take.

Can you post what those talking point written at the desk of Putin are? 33 pages into the thread and nobody has bothered to post what the supposedly awful propaganda was. Very curious, we must hate it because Putin, but we mustn't know what it actually was because then we might form our own opinions on it. Interesting how that works.

"I don't think well-known American pundits should be taking undeclared funding from Russian propaganda organizations"

What are your thoughts on well-known American pundits taking undeclared funding from pro-Ukrainian propaganda organizations? Follow up question, do you think those don't exist or do you think the American government just hasn't been able to uncover them or...something else?

They want a Vietnam situation where public backlash is high and morale is so crushed that we pull out all support.

Great comparison since Vietnam was another absolute shitshow we never should have been involved in.

Calling it now this is a harbinger of a wider internet crackdown by western governments. Guys like Sargon and Critical Drinker both interact with Chen fairly regularly and there's already pressure on youtube to shut them down. From there you can cast a fairly wide net across the online right if you want to (and they probably do). If you're extra paranoid you could probably connect this to the arrest of Durov and recent pressure on Musk.

Same as it ever was. Same playbook from 2016 and 2020. If you don't support western degeneracy you are a Russian asset so keep your mouth shut or they will come after you. Much freedom.

The Ukraine War is instructive on this simply due to how virulently people who swear up and down they are "real, patriotic Americans who love their country but hate their Government" are willing to wave the flag, celebrate their rights, guns and freedom and shit, but also pray every day that the USA get's absolutely felted by a corrupt foreign oligarchy out to reimpose some neo-colonialist vision based on revanchist foreign jingoism.

I can explain - so the Federal Government has around 2 million employees, many of them live in and around DC. That part of the country is reliably 90%+ Democrat which makes sense since the Democrats support MOAR government and these fucks rely on that for their living so of course they overwhelmingly support those positions.

However, in large parts of the rest of the country, not everybody wants boypussy and bigger government. They want Globohomo to get crushed. So those patriotic Americans are against the sick fucks who control the actual federal government, the ones who we don't get to vote for, the ones actually running shit.

Imagine being on KF and not understanding that...

All I'm going to say is that it's strange that they can "find" all of the Russian influence operations but are silent about the pro-censorship NGOs that are funded by foreign dark money.

They've investigated themselves and found nothing wrong. This tells you everything you need to know that it has nothing to do with foreign propaganda, it has everything to do with not saying anything against the interests of the MIC.

One can criticise how AIPAC does their kikery business dealings while also being disgusted by what TENET did, which was orders worse than anything out of AIPAC in terms of corruption.

Wait, you think some Youtube retard in a beanie has done more damage than a 70 year old organization with half of Congress in their backpocket who has led us into multiple wars? This is Peak Reddit brain right here.

Imagine having such a limited attention span you totally forget about the "Russian hacking collusion interference fearmongering horseshit around 2016 and 2020, and you just swallow what the same fucking regime propagandists shart out into your face about the upcoming 2024 election

It's absolutely revolting that people that gullible can vote. Fucking cattle.

Same playbook because it works. Once again, we're 33 pages into this thread and nobody has posted the supposedly harmful content that was foisted upon our virginal ears and eyes. Just trust us bro, it's all bad and they saved us from future harmful thoughts.

Lotta non-critical thinkers in this bitch need to take their brainrot asses back to Reddit.

 

[3deadniggers]

Way to tick another trick of us stateless diasporas, Lauren, by having a dubious "fake" name.
Difference is, most of us aren't taking gibs from other nation states to push their propaganda on the citizens of the countries we're living in. Pathetic.

Is there a single document out yet showing Russia companies demanding what content is covered? You act like this is a smoking gun from a known corrupt government that repeatedly lies about Russian influence. If it exists then it should be made public and there should be evidence they made demands for taking the money. This could easily be donating funds to a group already saying what you want rather than being a propaganda bribe.

It's sad you're a mod here and you're so utterly bias to the point of looking like an idiot. We don't have to agree on everything politically but even the most basic logic tells you not to trust the Russian propaganda story until you have hard evidence. It's been the same narrative for a decade and every single claim has been proven false after a few years. From Clinton's servers being hacked to Biden's laptop being a Russian propaganda story.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Oh no the industry is gonna crash because of Sweetbaby Inc? I wish nigga, this shit is going to keep going as long as idiots like you feed engagement on ragebait over these games.

When studios are pumping out 200 million dollar losses and Ubisoft is starting an international incident, I think things are on fire. I don't think rage bait works. But that's not my point. My point is yeah, Sweet Baby is irrelevant but they managed to accomplish more in a year or two than these Russian Spies have in double the time.

What did these two Russian spies do? Years of infiltration, 10 million dollars, and to do what? Give confirmation bias? Nobody made the average US citizen hate the war in Ukraine more than the US Government. That's not just inefficient, it's embarrassing. It's pathetic. Nobody made the public despise Ukraine more than the US displaying that grovelling faggot Zelensky, begging for money like a homeless person every day for years. I really hope this was a CIA Op to make retards like Welperhelper and mindlessobserver think there's actually something to that fake narrative there right wing YouTubers were peddling Russian Disinformation. At least that would be less embarrassing.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Absolutely. A funny thought I had is that they didn't even get to the Godfather part of the conversation, and Tim actually just thinks he's volunteering his services. It would be incredibly funny to me if they didn't have to use any kind of coercion with him.

Tim would be dumb enough to let himself get talked into volunteering. Don't think it happened that way, but funny if it did

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

But what do we think the grand narrative is here? or are we assuming there is none, and that Lauren, who seemed to be doing quite well, was simply offered a deal too good to turn down, and no one else caught wind of it in time?

I have, and the majority of posters (especially the ones still posting) haven't read the article, indictment, or anything. Nobody's getting charged as of this moment. Merrick Garland laid it out that they believe all of these YouTubers were victims. I doubt even Lauren Chen will get prosecuted unless something new comes up. The narratives the Russians were trying to push were laughable at best because the majority of Americans already hated the war in Ukraine. It was not a popular issue, especially amongst this audience. All they did was provide confirmation bias, at best. So here we are, a "Russian plot" to subvert our media, to trick the public into believing something they already believed on their own. 10 million dollars given to retarded Lolcows that was probably spent on Funkos and Beanies to promote "Russian narratives" that also just happened to already be the common opinion naturally. Meaning Russia wasted a lot of time and money on retards in the most laughable propaganda campaign in fucking Soviet history.


Or you could choose to believe the faggot retards in this thread who learned nothing from Russiagate, and believe millions of Americans have all succumbed to RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA because they listened to Benny Johnson making fun of retards in 40 second videos, Fuentes' never ending sperging, or Beanie man read articles on his show that isn't even owned by TENET and has nothing to do with them.

I agree, the totally un-american spin american politics has gotten is frankly disgusting. I blame the internet being both global yet obviously shaped by America. Taking all foreign influences out of American politics can only be good. I'd rather listen to some fat black bitch screaming about reparations than some non-american commie using what they think our problems are against us.

Americans would be less un-american if the American government would stop acting like shitheads for five fucking minutes. But since the Biden Administration, that's been a nigh impossible task for the US. It's pretty hard to be optimistic when your government seems to be doing everything it possibly can to destroy its own populace. I don't know what you expect from people when every law passed in the past 4 years has been designed to further oppress it's citizens. I guess all that's left to say is: The propaganda will continue until morale improves.

 

[AltisticRight]

Do you?

A user shared her supposed full real name and asked what sense I can ascertain from it.
I was trying to make sense of her fake surname choice assuming it wasn't "random (I like how Chen sounds etc.) and where it came from. You're onto, what exactly? Cantonese exiles from HK? What? I don't even know. Either way it has zero relation to my autism rabbit hole.

Wait, you think some Youtube retard in a beanie has done more damage than a 70 year old organization with half of Congress in their backpocket who has led us into multiple wars? This is Peak Reddit brain right here.

Is that really what I said?
It seems like the comprehension of rightoids bitching about their gay faggot chess games side bullshit like niggercattle is out in deep space. I'm no fan of AIPAC and it's pretty clear from that post. Follow your shepherd doggo.

 

[V4L_Penis]

Imagine having such a limited attention span you totally forget about the "Russian hacking collusion interference fearmongering horseshit around 2016 and 2020, and you just swallow what the same fucking regime propagandists shart out into your face about the upcoming 2024 election

It's absolutely revolting that people that gullible can vote. Fucking cattle.

The funniest part is them believing all this while at the same time not taking any issue when Bibi Netanyahu shows up to Congress to have every elected official blow him and the Jews have such control of our government that the only real dispute between Democrats and Republicans is wether to happily give Israel as much money as they want or enthusiastically give them as much money as they want

 

[ThePhoenix]

A user shared her supposed full real name and asked what sense I can ascertain from it.
I was trying to make sense of her fake surname choice assuming it wasn't "random (I like how Chen sounds etc.) and where it came from. You're onto, what exactly? Cantonese exiles from HK? What? I don't even know. Either way it has zero relation to my autism rabbit hole.


Is that really what I said?
It seems like the comprehension of rightoids bitching about their gay faggot chess games side bullshit like niggercattle is out in deep space. I'm no fan of AIPAC and it's pretty clear from that post. Follow your shepherd doggo.

I found it interesting personally.

Her legal name is in the indictment, why she picked the fake one is of note.

Also of note is that both her and her husband haven't changed their names. That's if they actually are married , he could bring her Russian handler or FSB for all we know.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

I’ll be honest, I kind of have trouble caring because as far as I’m concerned a lot of media, much bigger and more influential companies, are heavily funded by enemies of the American people and those dudes are bigger problems than Tim fucking Poole.

 

[AltisticRight]

Also of note is that both her and her husband haven't changed their names. That's if they actually are married , he could bring her Russian handler or FSB for all we know.

She made a video or had a poll on whether a guy should require their wife change their surname, most voted yes, followed by "don't care" and then "no". They might be married, but she didn't want to change her name.
I still find it pretty weird how coincidentally Chen is romanised as Tan in Min Chinese and Tan is then romanised as Tam, which was her actual surname. There's definitely something there, it is all very autistic but fascinates me.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Can someone explain to me what drives Canadians to go into American political commentary?

What affects America affects Canada due to sharing borders and how stupid the politicians are in Canada. Also, Canadian politicians can be pretty sue happy and go after you for anything you say against them. Almost as bad as some in Australia. American politicians aren't like that because it goes against Freedom of Speech there and hurts their career if they even try so it's easier to talk about them. Hell, Canada has one moron in Calgary who thinks he was black listed from selling his home and moving to Spruce Groove all because he talks about the Liberals, NDP, and Trudeau and straight up saying it's Trudeau directly targeting him. Meanwhile this just happens in some areas to cut down on China coming and buying the property.

 

[CreyZark]

She made a video or had a poll on whether a guy should require their wife change their surname, most voted yes, followed by "don't care" and then "no". They might be married, but she didn't want to change her name.
I still find it pretty weird how coincidentally Chen is romanised as Tan in Min Chinese and Tan is then romanised as Tam, which was her actual surname. There's definitely something there, it is all very autistic but fascinates me.

Maybe she called herself Chen because it's recognizably Chinese for her brand, like when J.K Rowling calls a character Ching Chong so we know they have the slanted eyes.

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

When did Tenet's channel get nuked?

https://www.youtube.com/@watchTENET

I tried to go back and watch something for another thread and was greeted with a message saying the channel has been terminated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5EXVh_UEOI

EDIT:
And there it is.

Youtube took it down

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

This could easily be donating funds to a group already saying what you want rather than being a propaganda bribe.

10 million dollars given to retarded Lolcows that was probably spent on Funkos and Beanies to promote "Russian narratives" that also just happened to already be the common opinion naturally. Meaning Russia wasted a lot of time and money on retards in the most laughable propaganda campaign in fucking Soviet history.

Lotta non-critical thinkers in this bitch need to take their brainrot asses back to Reddit.

You dumb niggers are jerking yourselves off about how you're critical thinkers and don't understand the problem here. I've explained this multiple times in the thread.

There is nothing wrong with them saying their opinions on Russia and Ukraine. The DOJ is not going after them for that. There's not even a problem being paid by a foreign country if you openly disclose that you're being paid and register under FARA as a foreign agent.

You can see people who have registered under FARA here

https://www.opensecrets.org/fara

The problem arises when you're paid by a foreign country and don't disclose it. This is what they're being charged for.

People going muh AIPAC ignore that AIPAC is public about contributions and all AIPAac contributions are made by private citizens

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/american-israel-public-affairs-cmte/summary?id=D000046963

 

[autosarcophagy]

>muh China
>muh Iran
>muh russia

Americans will peddle every single Global American Empire talking point while their number one enemy is their own government. Is China replacing you with Mexicans and letting blacks kill you? Are they flooding your country with drugs? Are they turning your kids gay and taking away your freedumbzz? Have they increased the price of your cheeseburgers and corn syrup sodas?

The answer to all these questions is obviously no and while they fuck YOU over imagine what kind of shit they do to the rest of the world where they don't have to pretend a piece of paper written more than 200 years ago has any power.

America destroyed europe, let half of it get overun by communism and the other half by brown people and destroyed any national, religious and racial identity in the name of Liberal democracy and capitalism. America is not a net positive for the world and I think for your own good it would be best if you stopped meddling and focus on issues that actually affect you.

>muh America

if its not America then who would you like to replace it and do you you think it will be any better.
yes democracy is shit but its better then all the other bullshit. if you think China Iran Russia are any better in any way then good luck with that. just imagine what they would do as the big globehome faggots and not some second rate regime inploders forever stuck doing the same shit over and over again.