Trashfire TENET Media / Lauren "Chen" / Lauren Yu Sum Tam & Liam Donovan - Rightoid grifting network funded by the Kremlin, were the sole live reporters at AFPAC IV. Hired Tim Pool, Lauren Southern, Dave Rubin and others.

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

So, you can't name anything, huh? Dude, I don't care what your answer is, I'm just looking for an example that nobody can seem to give me.

I know you're proud of your intellectual inferiority, but you can read my post if you want an example.

From this post: https://kiwifarms.st/goto/post?id=19274900
"White people losing jobs" propaganda is shit Russians peddle to create white supremacist retards like you
"Traditional family values" propaganda is shit Russians peddle to create angry incels like you who want to control women
"Politicians are m'bad m'kay" you seem to love politicians as long as they're Republican. Then you worship the ground they walk on. At least have the balls to own it

So congrats, you were brainwashed by Russian propagandists and when it's proven to you, you just double down like a simpleton

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

This is Benny Johnson's video here

Thank you for finally posting something.

That being said, this video is published the day of the attack. Is there any way to see when exactly he published this? ISIS didn't claim responsibility until several hours later after the attack. I watched the video and to me, it seems like he covers the attack, spews some anti-war crap for a few minutes and then talks about Ukraine.

I'm sorry, but on the day of the attack, prior to ISIS claiming it, every single person on the planet largely assumed Ukraine was responsible. How can you say that's not your honest first inclination? MSM was even saying the same thing at the time prior to ISIS claiming responsibility. The only propaganda-ish moment I could see, and I have to squint really fucking hard to see it, is at 5:00 minutes in when he brings up the warning from the US to Russia regarding terrorist attacks. Which the US did make. It just a strange moment but he never outright blames the US for the attack.

I don't know, but to me never once did I blame the US for the attack just based off of that video. I did blame Ukraine, but they are at fucking war with each other. Who am I supposed to fucking blame? The guys were fucking fleeing towards Ukraine!!! What is anyone supposed to think? When you hear the story, you're going to automatically assume "Oh fuck the Ukrainians went nuts". That doesn't take 10 million dollars and a Russian psyop. If the attack took place in Kiev, I'm instinctually blaming Russia until proven otherwise. Is this the brain-hijacking y'all are talking about because if so, it just comes off as Benny jumping the gun at best, and bad reaction-tier journalism at worst.

Now if Benny put this out after ISIS claimed and issued no retraction, then he's an idiot.

On a side note, kudos to you Catch, you did God's work finding the video. Benny's thumbnails are fucking cancer and scrolling through them makes me wish Garland would actually indict him.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

From this post: https://kiwifarms.st/goto/post?id=19274900
"White people losing jobs" propaganda is shit Russians peddle to create white supremacist retards like you

Hulk​

that's actually something that's actually happening and it's been Democratic Party policy since 1970
affirmative action opportunity zones special grants that only black people and women can get Nope that's policy Hulk I've known about that since I was a centre left liberal I've always opposed it it wasn't a mean mad Russians who made me do it

how dare people not want infinite immigrants to suppress their wages don't you know Hulk is just gonna accuse you of being a white supremacist it doesn't work anymore Hulk no one's buying your neoliberal new left claptrap and it's not because of Russia it's cause books like this over 400 pages of nothing but racism directed at white people which is then featured in New York Times

"Traditional family values" propaganda is shit Russians peddle to create angry incels like you who want to control women

the majority of incels are left wing and not white Hulk when they actually did a study on the political leanings of said group but keep providing Democratic Party talking points

"Politicians are m'bad m'kay" you seem to love politicians as long as they're Republican. Then you worship the ground they walk on. At least have the balls to own it

I don't believe in democracy Hulk democracy is a God awful form of government America function because it was in a restricted aristocratic Republic where large amounts of the population had no say in the government

So congrats, you were brainwashed by Russian propagandists and when it's proven to you, you just double down like a simpleton

no Hulk you literally blame people disagreeing with you on Russian propaganda because you're a low IQ Democrat who can't imagine that the vast majority of the population doesn't want infinite third world trash coming into the neighborhood jacking up housing causing crime and destroying their neighborhoods with their foreign culture.

But you probably reverse mortgage your house collect Social Security and like all boomers can't imagine why people generally hate neoliberal globalism

 

[PTNR 2.0]

I don't think selling your commentary for cash is OK.

It should be. That's literally free speech in action. If the government prevents me from engaging in speech for any reason, then my free speech has been infringed. We can debate whether or not there is a compelling interest to limit speech in cases of imminent danger to the public directly caused by said speech -- e.g. yelling "fire" in a crowded theater as a prank -- but this stuff re: Russia isn't even in the same sport, let alone the same ballpark. (Also, fwiw, I tend to land on the side that all speech should be allowed and if someone, upon being subjected to said speech, does something stupid (like stampede out of a theater and trample and kill someone in the process), then that's on them; in that example, theaters are going to have fire suppression systems and will have multiple exits; if someone tards out and tramples someone, then the onus was on them to react more appropriately).

The first amendment was originally enshrined in the first place in order to to protect unpopular, controversial, or even "unpatriotic" speech. "Prove to me you're being sincere and not being paid to say things and then maybe I'll let you speak" is a retarded, dangerous slippery slope.

Israel has WAY more influence in US elections than even the most pie in the sky estimates of Russian interference, and is way more flagrant and mask off about it and that's not only not a problem, but seen widely popularly, i.e. "our bestest buddies, plucky li'l Israel, advocating for their god-given right to exist". Reminder that AIPAC literally dumped MILLIONS into trying to primary congressional members not deemed sufficiently 'pro-Israel' and succeeded in most of them; it is essentially impossible to get elected to federal office in America if you are known to not have your lips superglued directly to Bibi's ass. If Russia did something that egregious, we would never hear the end of the wailing and gnashing of teeth, but when Israel does it, it's "good, thank fuck we got those eeeeeevil anti-Semites out of congress!".

As for this specific case, America has overthrown too many legitimately elected governments -- everywhere from Iran to South America -- to prop up (typically very brutal) regimes that broadly support our geopolitical goals for me to care about Russia paying millions to a bunch of retarded grifters as a part of some effort to make their groyper audience think Russia is even more based than it already is.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

How can you say that's not your honest first inclination?

Because the attackers were screaming allahu akbar, had beards, used shoddy weapons, were not white, and ukrainians in Moscow would hit better targets.

I remember being on Twitter when it happened, people blamed Ukraine until footage came out and then it was Muslims.

On a side note, kudos to you Catch, you did God's work finding the video. Benny's thumbnails are fucking cancer and scrolling through them makes me wish Garland would actually indict him.

I can't stand pundits so I figured what community would be retarded enough to comb through and identify everything cited in the indictment?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1f9ha07/who_are_commentator1_through_6_in_the_indictment/

And went from there.

 

[GettrGriftr]

Probably, but in Pool's defense, what else is he supposed to do? He's not the target, he's tangential to the case. When the FBI comes knocking at your door, the worst thing you can do is slam it in their faces. I don't see any course of action other than shutting up, answering their questions with your attorney present and hope for the best.

What is he supposed to do? What I said upthread. Refuse to talk to them until he gets a written guarantee of immunity, signed by the US Attorney over the case or his authorised deputy. (BTW, this is what everyone should do if asked for information, from the FBI on down to your local cop on the beat.)

The Attorney General saying verbally that someone isn't a target means absolutely bupkis and cannot be relied upon. They can  say you're not a target on Tuesday, talk with you on Wednesday, and hit you with an indictment by Friday (not literally that fast, but you get the point). Their  word about ANYTHING isn't worth 10-day-old dog turds. Immunity, in writing and signed by a person who can be bound (i.e. not by a FBI special agent or other LE interrogator who doesn't make those decisions), and then we'll talk.

You don't owe LE a goddam thing.

 

[Harvey Danger]

It should be. That's literally free speech in action. If the government prevents me from engaging in speech for any reason, then my free speech has been infringed.

I didn't say I want it outlawed, I said it's not OK, in a moral sense. If RT wants to pay me to be on a show, fine; if they want to pay me to say Putin is a lovely chap, then my word becomes suspect and meaningless.

Even if everything the DoJ says about this specific case is true, I still don't think it should be illegal, just embarrassing. Let the e-celebs, podcasters, and grifters argue their way out of the credibility deficit, and let their audiences decide. Having said that, I still don't believe the contents of DoJ indictment, or that it's being done in good faith.

 

[Sapphixys Shitty Panties]

Has Drunken Surfer or Mormon Shaggy issued any kind of statement on this? Only asking because this is the Sektur sub-forum and not the Autistic Thunderdome. We gotta remember where we're at, now.

 

[Captain Manning]

I'm sorry, but on the day of the attack, prior to ISIS claiming it, every single person on the planet largely assumed Ukraine was responsible.

Uhhh, no.

On the Farms a lot people correctly surmised, fairly early on before ISIS took credit, it was the durka durkas. Not necessarily ISIS specifically, but Chechens were floated as a possibility. That attack was pretty obviously durka durka faggotry based on the footage. You can read the thread here.

With all due respect, you seem to have this thing where you believe something, and then claim everybody else believes that thing too.

- "A majority of Americans don't support Ukraine so there's no need for Russian propaganda."
- "Everybody assumed it was the Ukrainians behind the Moscow terror attack so there's no need for Russian propaganda."

No to both. Please consider the possibility that your opinion is not the majority one, much less the solitary one.

I remember being on Twitter when it happened, people blamed Ukraine until footage came out and then it was Muslims.

Same here on the Farms. Most speculation Ukraine was behind it died pretty fucking quick (and/or got neg-rated) when the footage dropped. And it dropped beginning on the first page of the A&H thread concerning the attack.

Plus, in fairness to Ukraine, I was very doubtful their spec op guys would do anything like that. Unless they are way more immoral than I think. That attack was the work of psychotic cowards. Not soldiers.

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

After seeing the response to this indictment, I do have to applaud the whole operation. It seems like the intent was to find stupid, unscrupulous people and set them up with one of the most obvious pay-for-play schemes on the planet, specifically because the intent was to have the scheme get discovered.

The end goal being, of course, not the specific promotion of any particular viewpoint: but rather, a bunch of people slinging-shit at each other and barking about this-or-that, and the continued advancement of the thought that you can trust no institution or individual about anything. These actors are in the periphery of more-intelligent and more-thorough influencers and personalities, and so despite the fact that there's no direct link, you still have a sortof toxic-association concept, whereby someone offput by the fact that Rubin was such a fucking retard might cast a skeptical glance at the Daily Wire or so-on.

Discrediting alternative news outlets is just as good as discrediting mainstream news outlets, as the whole point is to ensure that people who are too lazy to dig for reliable sources - or god forbid multiple reliable sources to crossreference - are too suspicious to ever bother with learning anything about the world. That said, I have to imagine the russkies were a little annoyed that it took this long to come out, since it turns out those morons could suck down a whole lot of cash.

 

[Jungle Strike]

Voluntary speaking to FBI is the dumbest thing you can do.

"Mister Pool we appreciate your cooperation, just so we can prove your innocence would you please say 'Where is my fucking money you damn russkie' into the recorder? This is so we can compare your voice to some recordings and show it can't possibly be you saying that!"

 

[kurosawa]

Probably the funniest outcome is Lauren/husband will now have to get real jobs and not just be grifters. For people like this that is the biggest punishment you can give them.

Although I will say its possible (maybe?) her and her husband didn't know, I'm gobsmacked that someone turns up with $10 million in funding and there's zero due diligence to determine whether its real or not. I mean seriously - how much does a background check cost? Now you're dependent on the FBI not finding any incriminating evidence.

Spoiler: Tenet Media TN corporation since neither archive site works with TN SOS

I'm going to go out on a limb and say they're not going to bother with pursuing the Tenet Media trademark application.

Oh, no no no. Blaze Media owns the trademark to "Roaming Millennial Uncensored". The declaration of use is due September 18, 2024 (which can be extended for a fee) so we'll see if they let the mark go abandoned.

(edit) @Captain Manning - definitely agree with your point. Reading in detail they highlighted the fact that Lauren and hubbie had previously referred to the "Russians" when working with RT and subsequently referred to the firm investing money with that exact terminology. Not good and of course they're idiots for using Discord. Considering that I'd bet the FBI turns up more evidence.

 

[GratsTheat783]

Good. I don't like Tennent's anyway so fuck them.

 

[Omori Boy]

I'm sorry, but on the day of the attack, prior to ISIS claiming it, every single person on the planet largely assumed Ukraine was responsible.

Now maybe some people don't know as much about Russian history but there has been like a dozen different terror attacks through the decades committed by Islamic terrorists in Russia/USSR.

After seeing the response to this indictment, I do have to applaud the whole operation. It seems like the intent was to find stupid, unscrupulous people and set them up with one of the most obvious pay-for-play schemes on the planet, specifically because the intent was to have the scheme get discovered.

The end goal being, of course, not the specific promotion of any particular viewpoint: but rather, a bunch of people slinging-shit at each other and barking about this-or-that, and the continued advancement of the thought that you can trust no institution or individual about anything. These actors are in the periphery of more-intelligent and more-thorough influencers and personalities, and so despite the fact that there's no direct link, you still have a sortof toxic-association concept, whereby someone offput by the fact that Rubin was such a fucking retard might cast a skeptical glance at the Daily Wire or so-on.

Discrediting alternative news outlets is just as good as discrediting mainstream news outlets, as the whole point is to ensure that people who are too lazy to dig for reliable sources - or god forbid multiple reliable sources to crossreference - are too suspicious to ever bother with learning anything about the world. That said, I have to imagine the russkies were a little annoyed that it took this long to come out, since it turns out those morons could suck down a whole lot of cash.

Hot Take but if this were what this plan is, I'd think it would more be like you see in this thread and elsewhere on the Internet of people saying "this is just obviously the US government trying to silence critics" despite that not making sense (why not go after Fox News instead of the biggest idiots political commentary?).

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

(why not go after Fox News instead of the biggest idiots political commentary?).

Because Fox News isn't staffed by retards. It's staffed by corpo professionals, who will do the whopping ten minutes of legwork to discover where the money is from and promptly report the scheme to the alphabet agencies and other five-eyes member-states. Remember - neither of these personas had any internet footprint, at all, and they had cooked-up CVs that about five minutes of emails or phone calls would've turned up as bogus... and yet they had millions in capital?

By contrast, if you target drooling retards like Millennial, Rubin, Southern, and Pool - who you know owe their loyalty primarily to cash and attention - you have a very high chance of at least one of them taking the bait. They've got large audiences, and more importantly they've got large dunning-kruger audiences.

 

[irishAzoth]

can't wait for Lauren Chen to get raped by a black dick in women's prison

 

[Captain Manning]

Although I will say its possible (maybe?) her and her husband didn't know, I'm gobsmacked that someone turns up with $10 million in funding and there's zero due diligence to determine whether its real or not. I mean seriously - how much does a background check cost? Now you're dependent on the FBI not finding any incriminating evidence.

She knew. The government knows she knew. The government has already found that incriminating evidence (whether it results in her being indicted for something is another matter).

She apparently just didn't give a shit and proceeded anyways. Worse, she and her husband kept this to themselves while negotiating the involvement of Rubin, Pool, and the others.



More here:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/federal-indictment-reveals-remarkably-easy-205718300.html

I am not a huge fan of Dave Rubin, Tim Pool, and the other commentators that signed up for this, but I can see how they felt they got screwed. They were somewhat inquisitive about where the money was coming from, but Chen worked to feed them a line of horseshit she knew was horseshit.

 

[ForgedBlades]

 

[Day of the Cope]

>TENET claimed to be right-wing Russian propaganda arm
>Putin comes out days later to endorse Kamala

Anyone who believes these allegations, especially during election season, it on drugs.

 

[WelperHelper99]

>TENET claimed to be right-wing Russian propaganda arm
>Putin comes out days later to endorse Kamala

Anyone who believes these allegations, especially during election season, it on drugs.
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Literally everyone is admitting to it. Tim said he got fucked. Bro, when you do a glowop, you do BOTH SIDES.

She knew. The government knows she knew. The government has already found that incriminating evidence (whether it results in her being indicted for something is another matter).

She apparently just didn't give a shit and proceeded anyways. Worse, she and her husband kept this to themselves while negotiating the involvement of Rubin, Pool, and the others.

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More here:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/federal-indictment-reveals-remarkably-easy-205718300.html

I am not a huge fan of Dave Rubin, Tim Pool, and the other commentators that signed up for this, but I can see how they felt they got screwed. They were somewhat inquisitive about where the money was coming from, but Chen worked to feed them a line of horseshit she knew was horseshit.

This is what is convincing to me. They actually showed the money trail and people are confirming it. Tim is, and people like Gorka who saw it and was like "nope not today Satan". Nobody is actually fighting the charges.