Apalachee Highschool Shooting in Georgia on September 4th, 2024

[republicanchink]

this is where i'd like to ask if 1st or 2nd gen suicide rate is higher than for these kids in their native country. I am 100% sure of it. American in general is a terrible place to immigrate to and just to live in general. Look at asians, every asian girl is a whore, every asian boy either emulates ghetto trash or school shooters. "Normal" for most americans under 50 is fucking awful. There's a great interview by costin alamariu and steve sailer where Mr.Sailer, a typical boomer talks about high school and actually says "it was the greatest years of my life" meanwhile Costin said going to school was the closet he felt to wanting to kill himself, and he graduated in 97, in fact if you ask most Gen Xers, high school was the most traumatic time in their lives, and Chris Rock openly said that a huge reason he dropped out in the early 80s was because of how awful he felt going to high school. If you notice the first "school shooter" was in San Diego in 1979. and while the faces might have changed the problems are still the same. a kid with an abusive parent and another in prison gets a gun for their birthday, and the rest is history. Every story i hear about going to school, especially in the late 70s, is fucking awful. There's a reason "stranger danger" really got brought up in the 80s and its because of how little parents cared about their own kids. When you read about Jeffrey Dahmer's victims, its rather obvious that their parents genuinely didn't give a shit, it was almost a mercy killing for a couple of them.

as the "kids in the hall" rant on america showed, even before Columbine, the US was known as the place where a teenager goes to school and kills, even before the 80s ended. Its a uniquely shitty enviroment and its a big reason despite every fact proving otherwise, schools went full force on stopping bullying after Columbine (if they had the resources why didn't they bother doing anything before then)

Why are so many people voting with their feet and going to America then? To be fair, I have never lived in many big cities and for most my life lived in a ruraler area so my perspective growing up in America may be much different. The average asian household income PPP adjusted is much higher than even the average white income; and I have not seen many "ghetto trash or school shooter" Asian men nor "Whore asian girls". Income PPP adjusted has gone up greatly in the past 20 years, yet our young people are still depressed. I do agree that there will be kids alienated at school; to the point where some might experience severe mental anguish for their peers. I couldn't relate to that experience, but I would say that if it really bothers you that much what other people that don't give a fuck about you think, you are destined to be a failure in the real world. I don't think the "normal" for americans under 50 is horrible. Shit I'm in fucking GenZ, have worked shitty jobs ranging from MLM sales to cashiering, etc all the while paying rent and everything else by myself, if I thought things were shit I would just move to some EuroPoor country and take advantage of their social safety net there. Which is what I would advocate anyone do if they really are dissatisfied with America that much. Your american citizenship is the passport equivilent of a AMEX Black Card, you can go to any western country you want, they don't care much for illegals there if you want to skip the wait to get offcial documentation anyways. Personally, I will for now, never move to another western state, because I believe in the values of working your ass off, and being able to succeed in America, I don't want to be taxed 35-50% just existing making a normal income in Europe to support some welfare feeders.

 

[Terrifik]

What is justice in this case? A 14 year old just got told by a Judge the maximum possible sentence under the charges he faces is execution.

Which from the mercy of court they charged him as an adult but, spared him the death penalty because he was a kid.
The dad faces heavy imprisonment if the case get railroaded for 170 year or life for giving his kid a gun & not talking to him.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

We have a discord that may or may not have been the shooter's, but apart from that, nothing major yet

I guess it's still early, but if they really expect us to believe that there's not much out there every time someone who seems to be some flavor of libtard does something big like this then they're crazy.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Which from the mercy of court they charged him as an adult but, spared him the death penalty because he was a kid.
The dad faces heave imprisonment if the case get railroaded for 170 year or life for giving his kid a gun & not talking to him.

For giving his kid a gun after the State sat him down and told him his Kid was no good and he needed to sort his family out. That is the key difference here between this case and the Michigan case. Honestly the only reason IMO why father and son should not hold hands on the gallows block before the rope drop is because at a minimum the father didn't pull the trigger.

But that is the only mitigating factor here.

 

[Terrifik]

For giving his kid a gun after the State sat him down and told him his Kid was no good and he needed to sort his family out. That is the key difference here between this case and the Michigan case. Honestly the only reason IMO why father and son should not hold hands on the gallows block before the rope drop is because at a minimum the father didn't pull the trigger.

But that is the only mitigating factor here.

But should we charge adults for kids mass shooting/killings?

 

[mindlessobserver]

But should we charge adults for kids mass shooting/killings?

Yes. Kids are the parents responsibility. I think parents should be charged for any crime their child commits tbqh.

 

[Desktop User2]

For giving his kid a gun after the State sat him down and told him his Kid was no good and he needed to sort his family out. That is the key difference here between this case and the Michigan case. Honestly the only reason IMO why father and son should not hold hands on the gallows block before the rope drop is because at a minimum the father didn't pull the trigger.

But that is the only mitigating factor here.

Yep, he´s clearly accessory to murder by providing the weapon after the warning by the FBI about the Discord account. Some cunt on NBC mocked the sheriff in a pretty tasteless fashion with that "god forbid I didn´t do my due diligence" when talking with the people involved and warning the schools in his county was the only possible thing they could do with the information they had but they made the wigger aware of the seriousness of the situation.

 

[Manimal House]

Call it a hunch, but I'm going to say the kid probably had a major case of autism. Evidently, kids on the spectrum have a significantly high rate of aggressive behavior. Whether it be a kid who's gay, trans, queer, incel, loner, or just simply weird, I can't help but notice that all of the really violent ones are on the spectrum to some degree. Could be that he was heavily medicated or NEEDED to be, and that also fits. Also explains why the feds didn't do anything, just look at all of the retarded lolcows that are allowed to stay home with their parents after committing felonies because the "I'm sorry, I'm wetarded" card allows them that luxury.

As for the father getting arrested, good. His kid is his responsibility, and he didn't keep the guns locked up away from him when the kid was already, on fucking RECORD, a threat to others. And now other people are dead because of it. There's an epidemic of parents out there who make zero effort to get to know their children, let alone straighten them out when they get into trouble. If you're kid goes on a shooting rampage with a gun that you own, you need to be made an example of. From my perspective, you might as well have shot the victims yourself.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

The hair is kinda bad

for a 14 year old i'd say its quite amazing. i know every woman and probably most of the women of kiwifarms would kill to have had such nicely styled hair at 14. Most school shooters aren't really big on personal grooming, meanwhile this kid looks like he knows all about being groomed.

but I would say that if it really bothers you that much what other people that don't give a fuck about you think, you are destined to be a failure in the real world.

Chris chan and most of the lolcows here didn't give a fuck what others thought about them, would you consider them rolemodels? Are you a nick rekieta fanboy?

Why are so many people voting with their feet and going to America then

you're the sort of retard that thinks people work at Walmart because they really love the color blue.

 

[I'm a Silly]

meanwhile this kid looks like he knows all about being groomed.

I see what you did there.

 

[Snack Cracker]

I can see why the concept of parents being charged for their minor children’s crime is alarming for people, in any civilized society it would be unheard of.

But in certain situations it’s needed, and personally I’m excited that if there is a a legal precedent that eventually it might be aimed at many negligent parents that have their kids run wild through society with no regard for themselves and others.
Kid steals a car, gets released for stealing a car, steals another car same day.
Lock up the parents, clearly someone is fucking up here.

 

[Desktop User2]

Imagine being this supremely retarded in the eve of a school shooting:

Archive

 

[I'm a Silly]

I can see why the concept of parents being charged for their minor children’s crime is alarming for people, in any civilized society it would be unheard of.

But in certain situations it’s needed, and personally I’m excited that if there is a a legal precedent that eventually it might be aimed at many negligent parents that have their kids run wild through society with no regard for themselves and others.
Kid steals a car, gets released for stealing a car, steals another car same day.
Lock up the parents, clearly someone is fucking up here.

It'll never get applied in the ghetto.

 

[FrigginWeeb]

The dad faces heavy imprisonment if the case get railroaded for 170 year or life for giving his kid a gun & not talking to him.

imo this is some bullshit.

 

[republicanchink]

for a 14 year old i'd say its quite amazing. i know every woman and probably most of the women of kiwifarms would kill to have had such nicely styled hair at 14. Most school shooters aren't really big on personal grooming, meanwhile this kid looks like he knows all about being groomed.

Chris chan and most of the lolcows here didn't give a fuck what others thought about them, would you consider them rolemodels? Are you a nick rekieta fanboy?

you're the sort of retard that thinks people work at Walmart because they really love the color blue.

No, I would not consider all the lolcows "rolemodels". And I do not think people work at walmart because they like the color blue. I think people work at Walmart because either they are just getting a start in the labor market(still in school, super-young, etc), or that they can't qualify for a job that requires more intellect and interpersonal communication skills than working at walmart, and the labor market has assigned them that job as a result. I understand that walmart and fast food jobs are harder than most people think because I have worked those shitty jobs before. I do not work jobs in those industries anymore, because I have attained enough skills to convince another employer in another industry that just happens to pay better, that I will be a competent worker. And maybe a bit of nepotism.

 

[derpherp2]

I guess it's still early, but if they really expect us to believe that there's not much out there every time someone who seems to be some flavor of libtard does something big like this then they're crazy.

When people were looking into the aunt I saw something about how the shooter's mom was constantly DFE'ing and as a practice, restricted internet access to her kids.

Doesn't necessarily mean she succeeded, just that tracking this shit is gonna be hard and prolly needs looking at archives.

I WAS looking at some point but I got distracted by something. Still feel like we'd need to do some branch hopping looking into it's family's deets, then piggybacking off there, archive or no archive.

 

[booklover]

This case with respect to the father is a bit different from the Michigan case against that School Shooters parents. I maintain that the Crumbleys got done dirty because their spawn was more of a bolt from the blue. They should have been punished yes, but I did not agree with the Manslaughter charges. Negligence and Civil Liability would have been sufficient.

In this case however the Feds and the Local Sheriff both sat this retards parents down and told them their son was "on their radar" and that he needed to "do something about it".

Clearly, nothing was "Done about it". So I really have no sympathy for the guy. Parents are ultimately responsible for their children, and IMO this should not just apply to school shootings. If a Kid gets to sent to Prison, the parents should spend some time with them in the Jail cell on general principle. Might even be a good family bonding moment that clearly has been lacking without State intervention.

Also dude was clearly going through drug withdrawal. He had the shakes and tweaks and I don't believe for a moment they were based on nerves.

Something WAS done about it.

They enabled him.

It'll never get applied in the ghetto.

yeah, because the bioparents are ALREADY locked up.

 

[Brine]

Here’s some stuff from TikTok. I’m not linking to it directly because TT loves to dox your account if you share from it. Site is being jank so excuse any formatting errors.

Misc footage, including him shooting out the glass doors.

There are several videos of this teacher interacting with police. He was understandably agitated. One of the boys in his class attempted to open the door (which could have gotten him shot by Gray or by the police) and the police were apparently going against procedure by asking teachers to open the doors.

Several of students in classrooms/police clearing rooms. TikTok will add music automatically unless you remember to delete it.

Last one is mostly audio. Apparently this was one of the classrooms where a teacher was shot. You can hear a female student talking to the injured teacher and telling them to breathe. When the police get closer the students start calling out for medical help. You can hear one girl say “Medic! Medic bad. Bad bad bad.”

CBS disabled video saves but here’s a screenshot of a boy from the same school with a similar hair style.

Edit: looks like one video duplicated and replaced another one but I can’t fix it

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

Misc footage, including him shooting out the glass doors.

That footage at the beggining is from the Nashville shooting, you can see it at 0:40

 

[Otterly]

The law could not be any more fucking clear, and any decent gun shop owner should spell it out for you every step of the way until you actually have the sucker in your hands. You cannot purchase a gun for anyone other than yourself.

Ok so the law he broke was supplying a gun to a child or supplying one to someone he shouldn’t. Charge him for that. If the kid is charged as an adult then that means the father is being tried for him still being a minor. Father is clearly a piece of shit, whole family are, charge them for the child neglect.

Also (I am not American so want to clarify) people in this thread have talked about the rifles they had as kids. Presumably they were bought for them by parents? Or were they owned by the parent and used by the child? How are minors using guns at all if they cannot be given them or use family ones?
I am very uneasy with someone else being charged for the actual crime. This is not a precedent I want to see. Crack down more on neglect before this happens but n. Korean style ‘three generations get the gulag for your crime’ is not compatible with freedom or civilisation

Now of if comes out that the father knew what he was planning, that IS accessory. Let’s see why the local law enforcement was warned when they moved into the area.