US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[FMW13]

I preordered a bucket of KFC and pizza for debate party. Wish you could join my debate party bros.

Jesus debates used to mean something and now they’re like sporting events. Please take me out of clown world and into vice city (just kidding, I’m only here for the blood sport. I hope the Ugandan giant gets body slammed tonight).

 

[Brenda Holiday]

They view it as necessary to accomplish their goals, and the small towns don't matter politically.

I know everything you said is right, I just don't want to believe it.

My wife has negative interest in anything politics related

If you don't mind me asking, could you expand on this more? I've been thinking recently about the people who find politics boring and how they might feel in todays society where it seems like everything is forcing you to be politically involved one way or another.

 

[Francis York Morgan]

This has been one of the talking points that's been coming up when people mention all the black support Trump has been getting recently. We're seeing a lot of black people, primarily men, say that they're not on the Biden/Kamala shit, and that they want Trump back, which I thought was cool. That was until I saw someone say "Yes they're coming out in support for Trump, but will they vote? Historic trends point to probably not".

Kamala was always going to be fighting an uphill battle with black votes. There's not really a way to spin her identity to make her appealing to black men. With black women, all she has is the increasingly cracking front she puts on and those cracks grow every time she opens her mouth.

The only people she seems to have any appeal with are liberal white women and they will vote for pretty much anything so long as its endorsed by the mainstream.

 

[Beige]

I'm not sure when Biden's team gave up on him, was it before he was on Stern and the whole thing was a trap to get him out? Did they ever really think a debate was a good idea? They all kept their jobs and moved to the Kamala campaign, so they didn't stand to lose anything by stabbing him in the back

I think Biden saying he'd debate Trump was very much the same thing that got them Kamala as VP: he shot his mouth off. As to whether his staff thought it was a good idea, it depends on how close in the inner circle they were. The people closest to Joe knew how fucked up he was, but kept that hidden as best they could outside of those closest, and insulated Biden himself from all the talk of his mental decline, brushing it off as mudslinging and conspiracy theory.

The rest of the staff (and the President himself) probably thought, "Well, I'm sure he's getting older and isn't sharp as he used to be, but he did just fine in 2020.", then the actual level of decline made obvious in the debate caught them completely off-guard.

I'm sure it was absolute chaos in the next week and the question of "Will they, won't they" was heavily divisive behind the scenes. My theory is that they were literally taking it on a day-by-day basis to see if Biden could credibly stay in, leading up to the convention.

Imo, they made the decision to drop Biden after the assassination attempt on Trump. It was too much of a momentum and energy boost for MAGA, and Biden "getting COVID" was very possibly a cover story for a legitimate health scare.

Kamala is now the nominee because keeping Biden in would be absolute poison down-ballot after the debate, and they know at the very least, she isn't likely to randomly drop dead. They'll still try their damndest to win, but I'm willing to bet there's plenty of DNC bigwigs who don't really think she's got a big chance at winning, and are just trying to mitigate damage.

 

[Nuns with guns]

Hmm, seems about right, but one brave soul suggested Voter ID, here were the responses.

Dems keep yelling "racism" whenever voter ID laws come up, but that's only because they're not willing to admit voter IDs would prevent illegals (and dead people) from voting.

 

[Not A Bunny]

I can't wait for Trump not to drop an n-bomb or whatever people claim he's going to do as if he hasn't done a presidential debate before.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I think I'll just wait for a highlight reel, depends on how today goes for me. Maybe skim the debate thread.

If I happen to sit down to watch it, I plan to bounce the moment Kamala chuckles nervously because that alone makes her look incompetent on top of retarded. I don't even remember Hillary chuckling during her debates—smirking, sure, but no actual laughing that I can recall.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

I can't wait for Trump not to drop an n-bomb or whatever people claim he's going to do as if he hasn't done a presidential debate before.

Hey, at least if he does that "white bread ass nigga" isn't an insult because it only applies to cokekieta.

 

[The Nothingness]

I'll probably check out the debate during commercial breaks of my usual show, and see what gets highlighted on here.

 

[Grundlejungle]

View attachment 6401425

Kamala Harris, world renowned gypsy and thief, tells her own fortune of stealing the Romanian Presidency.

Holy fuck, she's so fucking wasted.
Kummy is also looking strangely yellow, maybe her liver finally gave out.

 

[Nuns with guns]

Instagram post by one lib I know. He posts Gaza stuff all day, so he's obviously not voting for Trump, but he doesn't seem to be planning on voting Kamala either.

 

[Harvey Danger]

I don't know how Dick Cheney's endorsement benefits the Democrats. "Hey, remember that warmonger that was evil incarnate, even well into the Trump era? He's voting for Kamala!" is not exactly a flex, nor is there a big GOP arm that supports Cheney (Liz got voted out), and it proves the "Cheney RINO" theory back when Liz Cheney was seen as a hero by the left as "protecting the GOP from Trump".

It's aimed at boomers and neocons who think Bush wasn't really bad. Trump had good support with older white voters, it eroded with Covid a bit, and the Dems are hoping to erode it further now.

I don't know why everyone think Cheney's endorsement hurts the Democrats just because he's their boogeyman. This is the party that has turned hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance into regular pastimes. They think it's a wonderful GOTCHA against the enemy, the only kind of argumentation they still do.

If you accused them of approving of Cheney's actual positions, they'll pull the same bullshit they pull with trannies. "Oh no, I don't support that policy, that's someone else. That's some extremist who just happens to be on my side. It says nothing about me or my policies. I'm one of the sane ones. Don't blame me for something an ally does."

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

If you don't mind me asking, could you expand on this more? I've been thinking recently about the people who find politics boring and how they might feel in todays society where it seems like everything is forcing you to be politically involved one way or another.

She thinks politics are stupid and boring, to the point that it annoys her. To that end, she avoids it at all costs. If forced to participate in something due to her work, she does the bare minimum and shows zero enthusiasm.

 

[Scale Smerch]

So are we all posting here or happenings?

It'll be here, this thread has become the defacto place for all such discussion

 

[Alter Ego]

It'll be here, this thread has become the defacto place for all such discussion

That poor DNC Happenings thread...

 

[Meat Target]

If you don't mind me asking, could you expand on this more? I've been thinking recently about the people who find politics boring and how they might feel in todays society where it seems like everything is forcing you to be politically involved one way or another.

There is truth in the saying, "if you're not outraged, you're not paying attention".

The only problem with that statement is that not everyone has the time, resources, or temperament to drop everything and become a full-time activist. There's no point in getting worked up about things that only affect you remotely. You're not going to fix it by coping and seething about it online.

If it does affect you, by all means, take a stand. But you have to pick your battles wisely. Otherwise, you're gonna burn yourself out.

 

[Jaimas]

Kamala was always going to be fighting an uphill battle with black votes. There's not really a way to spin her identity to make her appealing to black men. With black women, all she has is the increasingly cracking front she puts on and those cracks grow every time she opens her mouth.

The only people she seems to have any appeal with are liberal white women and they will vote for pretty much anything so long as its endorsed by the mainstream.

Even there she's been slipping. It's nuts.

 

[Justsomecicada]

That poor DNC Happenings thread...

That thread in a nutshell
“Former trump supporter, not gonna lie it’s been fucking hilarious watching trump crash and burn, but seriously. We can’t let this guy get the nuclear codes.

 

[R00T]

I mean, you are sort of responsible for Trump gettign elected if you didn't vote for Clinton. A lot worse things that "lookign uneducated" biggest of which is looking like a fence sitting faggot. It's fine to be a fence sitting faggot, it's fine to do a protest vote, my best friend back then voted Jill Stein. It didnt' matter one bit, my state was called 5 minutes after the polls closed. it's another thing to have the unchecked ego to think "oh he's gonna feel my wrath with this vote" I think you are a goddamn liar, if you were going to vote for rfk jr, and you cared about the shit he was talking about you would realise that the best chance to get the changes you wanted would be voting Trump, Bobbie is gonna be on Trump's transition team and most likely get some of his people in important positions.

I don't expect you to respond, but what are a couple of your important issues?

Reasonable immigration reform. Neither Kamala or Trump have a good stance on this. Immigration is a mess and with a surgical and planned approach there would be a way to prevent unideal candidates and drug mules from entering the country. Trump doesn’t want to handle the illegal crossings in a way that will address the core issues. With his method we will still have to continue to bolster the border further and further and put more money into the sinkhole. Kamala claims to have a border policy that I might find more appealing but her track record does not reflect it. Neither of them succeed in that issue.

Prison reform: Trump has the advantage here. He put out some of the best prison reform policy in the last 2 decades while in office and essentially no one cared because it was trump. Harris locked people up indiscriminately as a prosecutor and I doubt she has learned to address prison reform in the last decade.

Both candidates also stifle third party voting and prevent Americans from getting true freedom. Neither side wants you to have more options and I refuse to support either while they continue to enact partisan bs.

I am not lying when I say that I will vote RFK regardless. I am doing so because he represents the alternative. Saying I should vote for Trump makes no sense because then he will then be in Trump’s pocket. He won’t be working for his interests or the interests of an alternative. He will be working for Trumps interests.

I simply want him to be held accountable. He should come out and be honest. “I’m dropping out because Trump offered me a position.” Fine. However he didn’t officially end his bid. He just wants those in battleground states to not vote for him and has said those in settled states should go out and support him. It’s a sham and it should be challenged as such. You cannot have it both ways. I don’t think Biden should’ve been allowed to drop out unless it was due to a medical issue, and if they went that route he should’ve been made to resign immediately. If you are incapable of doing the job then you are incapable. RFK isn’t incapable.

I have no notions in my head that RFK is going to “feel my fury.” I have a single vote and I’m going to use it. That’s all there is to it.

 

[Alter Ego]

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1833539331505770508

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