YouTube e-Christians and Transactional Protestantism

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While I will primarily attack Protestants in this piece, I am going to start by mocking noted Orthodox Bog Hog Jay Dyer, who smacks his lips approximately every fifteen seconds and frequently interrupts his long-winded theosophical monologues to hawk "natural male vitality" testosterone pills. Jay Dyer has made God's house a house of merchandise through his natural male vitality shilling. It's quite easy to listen to three hours of Jay Dyer's free-associative slam poetry regarding the interconnections of Greek philosophy and the supposed necessity of trinitarian theology to make sense of any facts of the natural world. It's quite easy to listen to all of that without actually contemplating the glory of Jesus Christ once. Jay Dyer and all other e-Christians are the exemplars of monetized idleness. The kind of idle chatter that Socrates offered for free is now being commercialized by these fraudulent e-Christian gasbags.

Moving on to Transactional Protestantism, particularly, Transactional Reformed Protestantism. For a long time, I was a voracious consumer of e-Christian content and found people like RC Sproul and John MacArthur to be quite compelling and persuasive. Sproul, in particular, was highly erudite and several standard deviations to the right of the IQ bell curve. I have great respect for RC Sproul and he is not himself an e-Christian. I would never characterize him as such, and he is in heaven now anyway.

But I bring up Sproul and MacArthur because their content is what caused the entire Protestant house of cards to collapse in my mind. Cracks began to appear when I noticed how these men contradicted each other on what seemed to be fundamental matters of the Faith. For instance, RC Sproul argued in one of his talks that the underlying reason a sinner is damned to hell is not because of that sinner's rejection of Christ but because of that sinner's objective state of sin. In other words, failing to accept Christ is not itself the causa damnationis. Instead, failing to accept Christ is the reason the sinner is not pardoned, but the sinner is ultimately condemned on the basis of his own sins. John MacArthur answered the question in exactly the opposite way. (MacArthur also hews to several other "pop Christianity" heretical beliefs such as the view that Jesus was literally damned to Hell on the cross, a vile heresy which James White has convincingly refuted.) MacArthur alleges that the sinner is fundamentally damned for not accepting Christ and the sinner's particular sins are just symptoms of the underlying cause.

The inability of Protestantism to give a cohesive answer about anything is what undermines the Protestant claim that there is some fundamental unity to all the various denominations. Protestants will object to the characterization of "20,000 different denominations" by pointing to underlying similarities between groupings of denominations. Yet even those who are aligned in lockstep on most matters of "Reformed theology" such as MacArthur and Sproul often reach fundamentally contradictory conclusions. Yet they all claim to be inhabited by the same Holy Spirit! Why would the Holy Spirit lead different people to different "truths"? That's not the Spirit of God; that's the spirit of deconstructionism, which is just destruction with a couple extra syllables.

Ok, but there is one area where almost all "Reformed Protestants" agree: a "transaction" occurred on the cross. Christ's righteousness was traded for wretchedness and Christ became sin on the cross. In the process, his righteousness was transferred or imputed to all believers who would ever follow in his path. The elect, then, were instantaneously and irrevocably declared "forensically justified," without the need for them to demonstrate any kind of actual righteousness in their own behavior. In this view, someone like John Calvin who was part of a criminal conspiracy to have a "heretic" burnt alive is currently enjoying the beatific vision of eternity with God, while the poor guy who got burnt alive is now burning eternally in hell. In other words, the murderer gets to enjoy eternal salvation while the one murdered is burning in hell. What a load of shit.

It is necessarily true that if there is any reality to the Gospel of Jesus Christ then true believers must actually be infused with the righteousness of Christ! Infusion, not mere imputation! Sanctification and justification are and must be ONE! Do you think that God treats your sins like parking tickets, in which someone else can pay the penalty for you and you can simply go on committing further offenses?? BLASPHEMY! You dishonor God when you say such things. God is Holy.

The Christian's heart must yearn for Actual Righteousness, not the mere imputation thereof!

You protestants with your phony transactionalism, as if God's justice is a Western Union wire service and your salvation can be purchased without any righteousness being displayed in your own lives, are DECEIVED!
 
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I dont get how humans even turned religion into sports. Yall are all retarded.
White people love categorizing things and then trying to discern the platonic ideal from those categories and becoming personally invested in their answer being the right one
 
I'm only downvoting you because this belongs in the "Deep thoughts" section, not the technology section of the site. Otherwise, I agree 100%.
 
Always remember, hatred is of the devil, even if you think you're doing something righteous.
Perhaps you are correct that my detestation of lip smacking and my homicidal rage at those kinds of noises is sin. But don't you think hatred of sin comes from God and not the devil? I am convinced that monetized YouTube e-Christianity is sin. I allege the rise of e-Christianity was prophesied when it was written that "itching ears" will lead many to ruin in the last days. Slothful production and consumption of YouTube content is a form of idleness that rots the mind.
 
@Habanero Delight This is belongs moreso in Community Watch more than in the off-topic board. Make a thread in Proving Grounds and retitle it, "Online Religious Grifters: Monetizing Fraudulent Faith." Something like that. A general thread for wannabe saints regardless of denomination.
That sounds fantastic. It will take a bit of time but I will put that together.
 
That sounds fantastic. It will take a bit of time but I will put that together.
If you do so, make it less a rant and more focused on specific people.

As an aside, as an Orthodox Christian, I also dislike Jay Dyer, but mainly because he encourages infighting and schisms and the kind of "trad" Christianity that's a political LARP rather than faith-based.
 
If you do so, make it less a rant and more focused on specific people.

As an aside, as an Orthodox Christian, I also dislike Jay Dyer, but mainly because he encourages infighting and schisms and the kind of "trad" Christianity that's a political LARP rather than faith-based.
I was listening to an Orthodox person describe how the act of schism is, in itself, sin, and therefore any church other than Orthodoxy is in sin. I find that persuasive. My concern is whether Orthodoxy has the same bloody history of martyring other Christians as the Catholics and Protestants have. If there is a Christian church with a truly nonviolent history then that is the only church to which I can belong without being in constant agony from my conscience. Do you know of any reliable resources for the history of Orthodoxy and whether there has been the kind of intra-Christian martyring that I describe?
 
Perhaps you are correct that my detestation of lip smacking and my homicidal rage at those kinds of noises is sin. But don't you think hatred of sin comes from God and not the devil? I am convinced that monetized YouTube e-Christianity is sin. I allege the rise of e-Christianity was prophesied when it was written that "itching ears" will lead many to ruin in the last days. Slothful production and consumption of YouTube content is a form of idleness that rots the mind.
That voice on your shoulder telling you that you're great because you told a sinner what for is the Devil giving you a crown of Pride. We do not judge, we discern and then we act appropriately. When we fall, we get back up, confess and seek forgiveness, and we try again. When we see our brother or sister fall, we immediately make up excuses for them as to why they fell and rush to help them back up again.

The only person the Lord wants us to judge is ourselves. Everyone else requires forgiveness, specifically forgiveness which helps them to repent.
 
When we see our brother or sister fall, we immediately make up excuses
The phrase "make up" is a euphemism for "lie." You blaspheme God by alleging that God commands us to lie on behalf of our brothers and sisters. Why would making up excuses and intentionally downplaying sin be a good thing? If I start doing that for other people, then newsflash: I'll also start doing the same thing for myself. It is inevitable. A person who makes up excuses in one domain will make up excuses in all domains.

Additionally, you are a hypocrite because you clearly think I am sinning but have made up no excuses on my behalf. That is what is so laughable about what you have said.

So, to summarize your theology: Excuses are holy, particularly when they are made-up (invented). Fascinating!
 
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In this view, someone like John Calvin who was part of a criminal conspiracy to have a "heretic" burnt alive is currently enjoying the beatific vision of eternity with God, while the poor guy who got burnt alive is now burning eternally in hell. In other words, the murderer gets to enjoy eternal salvation while the one murdered is burning in hell. What a load of shit.
If this is what you think others think, go subscribe to Karma then.
 
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