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[Xarpho's Return]

These same posters love riding their ebikes at 30+mph without a helmet.

As far as blasting through stoplights and other shitty behavior, the justification they'll use is "but I don't kill anyone if I speed/run the light/etc."

Neither do I.

I came across this article not too long ago about a piece of shit cyclist who severely injured a woman by running into her, and there are a few other stories about cyclists killing pedestrians (particularly the very old and very young). So it could happen, and potential for both.

But once you start going into chances you basically create a two-tier society. Segregation, under those rules, should be normalized since there's a "greater chance" blacks can't pay off loans/be a criminal/etc., therefore you should limit them accordingly.

That game is actually a fairly decent, if basic, traffic simulator.

Hard disagree. Cities Skylines fucks up traffic simulation just in ways exits and entrances work, with slowdowns occurring on volume, not speed. (Maybe not on this thread, but freeway congestion happens before exits, not afterwards). The whole way C:S models traffic is part of why automobile traffic is so misunderstood in the first place.

I don't know why that particular time clogs up roads, other spaces in Google Earth don't. It's also worth noting the terminal is 400 acres wide, which is definitely large and too big for any current city simulator (I personally would like a 1:1 city sim with that sort of thing).

I find it most cathartic that the urbanist paradise New York is proposing the most restrictions, including ones that will make bike fags pay their fair share for using public roads.

Infimmigration doesn't pay for itself.

This is theoretically where the train wins, because it's long and large and many doored and doesn't really change the operating parameters if one person gets on or a hundred.

The problem there, of course, is that the costs need to be allocated amongst the users, and there's a huge difference between an empty train and a full one.

That's the thing about trains, there's only a narrow window when they become "efficient" before ride quality really starts to drop off, and that's assuming you don't have a population of undesirables. When you "add another train" you're at best cutting each one to 50% capacity which means that neither one is efficient.

The term I've heard for this is tactical conservatism. Strong Towns shills do this when they parrot Marohn's fiscally conservative argument that roads operate on a net zero budget while simultaniously advocating for subsidized rail projects that operate at a massive loss.

Marohn's conservative in the same way Fatrick is, that is to say, not conservative at all (his political party planks do have a few that line up with traditional right-wing values like no abortion, but there's also left wing shit, and just "out there" shit like hating on streetlights). Besides, his "example" of using Ferguson, MO as how "roads lose money" was actually completely misrepresented by his argument to the point where he either deliberately lied or was so stupid to not understand the city budget.

More hate for pedestrian bridges:

There is, of course, a grain of truth to that and I think Road Guy Rob pointed out the same thing—most of the pedestrian bridges/underpasses are plagued with too many switchbacks/staircases and create a much longer, more cumbersome distance to traverse than just crossing the street.

I remember being annoyed with that when I was on campus and was basically Peak Bike as far as that was concerned, and I still didn't think it was some pro-automobile conspiracy.

 

[DavidS877]

More hate for pedestrian bridges:

Good thing that never happens in civilized countries like Japan.
Oh, wait.

But, it gets worse, here they make the pedestrians go UNDER the cars.


This one is a little unclear, but this is a pedestrian tunnel under rail lines, I'm sure there's others but this is the first I found that wasn't an actual train station, so who wins there, pedestrians or trains?

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

I find it funny that the urbanists on reddit will point to gun control when it comes to regulating cars and how it's beneficial. But when it comes to the topic of regulating e-bikes they suddenly turn into "don't tread on me" types. It all comes down to reeeing about banning/regulating something they like vs something they don't.

I'm surprised they haven't upgraded from Rocks to guns when it comes to threatening motorists. Since they love to cross the street with rocks in their hands in order to smash someone's window.

 

[indomitable snowman]

Aussie doesn't mention their gun ban challenge: LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE

Which didn't appreciably change the homicide rate.

pedestrians or trains?

Lets ask pajeets (hint it's the trains)

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Which didn't appreciably change the homicide rate

But muh mass shootings

 

[Midwit]

I don't see how they can see people as "naturally good natured"; Jason's defense of the Tyre Extinguishers is "letting people know that SUVs aren't wanted here" (or something like that, I don't remember the exact quote).

That's because SUV drivers need to forced onto public transport for their own good and this will somehow fix society.

The reason why Eurostar or even Amtrak is nicer than city wide mass transit is because of fare enforcement. Something these individuals are mostly against.

Also because they're near-exclusively the domain of holidaymakers and international businessmen, urban commuter rail is going to be much worse because the people using it are more likely to be of the scum class.

but vastly more powerful due to the lower weight

And they also have a significantly lower cross sectional area than a car does, which means that it needs less power to overcome air resistance.

Those things are either motorbikes or scooters by any sensible definition

Legally speaking, in the UK any E-bike putting out over 250w is classified as being a motorbike of equal power but since it's so easy to slap one together it's pretty much impossible to enforce.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Legally speaking, in the UK any E-bike putting out over 250w is classified as being a motorbike of equal power but since it's so easy to slap one together it's pretty much impossible to enforce.

I remember when the first powerful motors became available (one horsepower in the size of a 35mm film canister is burned into my brain for some reason) that there was a lot of talk about hiding the equipment in a normal looking bike.

But now the only real way to tell an electric bike at a glance is usually that the front of the frame is fat and engorged.

 

[quaawaa]

They're feeling defeated:





Muh Big Auto:

We did it reddit:

Actually they're winning:



Based:

Source (Archive)

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

We did it reddit:

This sentence is the kind of thing that would be emblazoned on the walls of Hell itself, except it embarrasses even Satan, who is the Devil.

 

[Yamamura]

I'm surprised they haven't upgraded from Rocks to guns when it comes to threatening motorists. Since they love to cross the street with rocks in their hands in order to smash someone's window.

They're leftist so hating guns is part of their MO. However I have noticed with some lefties it's changed to "only we should be the ones who own guns".

We did it reddit:

500 thousand subscribers (not counting how many are bot/shills) is not a really a lot comparatively to the rest of the population. They cope that they're winning because they only talk within their own subreddit and the youtube algorithm keeps feeding them urbanist content they want to see. Never mind the fact that when they venture out into non urbanist subreddits outside of fuckcars they get immediate push back. Let alone if they were to actually attended any local townhall meetings and sit quietly while the locals complain about bike lanes right in front of their faces.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

500 thousand subscribers (not counting how many are bot/shills) is not a really a lot comparatively to the rest of the population. They cope that they're winning because they only talk within their own subreddit and the youtube algorithm keeps feeding them urbanist content they want to see. Never mind the fact that when they venture out into non urbanist subreddits outside of fuckcars they get immediate push back. Let alone if they were to actually attended any local townhall meetings and sit quietly while the locals complain about bike lanes right in front of their faces.

It's going to be interesting when the educated dweebs pull this shit to pieces in a hundred years; the online fagmentation and echo-chamber effect has completely destroyed the ability for these kinds of movements to gain real ground; but made them all the more able to gain apparent ground.

You see it everytime a carfucker encounters an actual bike enjoyer who has improved their town, they hate each other almost instantly; more so than either hate Trump and Elon in a cyber truck.

 

[LaxerBRO]

They're feeling defeated:

The guy lives in Dayton, Ohio. I viewed Main Street in Dayton and it's just a generic medium sized city downtown.

What good would shutting down that road be?

Even if he proposes an event, why not host it at Riverscape Metro Park?

This faggot probably just wants to be weird and play corn hole in main street downtown while guzzling Kombucha just to fuck with people that might need to be downtown on the weekends.

 

[Meriasek]

What good would shutting down that road be?

There'd be no cars on that road.
That's all.
That's literally all he wants from that.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

They're feeling defeated:

His "idea" got pushback because like other urbanists he has no idea how to actually make an argument, or counter/persuade/haggle/etc.

Usually the typical tyrant play is to announce something completely unreasonable then "compromise" by downplaying what they want and act like they're doing you a favor while still giving you nothing. (Politicians do this all the time). That also requires charisma and a large political machine backing you up which this little weasel lacks.

He didn't come back and offer a counter (like "try it for just one Sunday") because he probably thought closing it off every single weekend was the compromise. In Houston, there was/is a pilot program in the mid-to-late 2010s that closed off a major road to vehicular traffic for about four hours every two months (example), and even then there were alternate routes available. (The fact that I haven't seen anything recently suggests that this wasn't a big success).

You see it everytime a carfucker encounters an actual bike enjoyer who has improved their town, they hate each other almost instantly; more so than either hate Trump and Elon in a cyber truck.

Probably because those "actual bike enjoyer" people are not rotten to the core as the urbanists are, which probably reflects in their behavior on the road (in the broadest terms possible, the difference between "good people" and "shitty people").

On that subject, I would recommend this Flickr-documented story about a man, who, in 1997, left his home in Largo (Florida) to go to Alaska...on a bicycle. He had planned for a year and had probably just atlases as his guide, and did in fact make it to Deadhorse, Alaska, six months and 7,000 miles later. Judging by how few times he mentioned even almost getting hit (and in none of those indicated malice, a stark contrast to your typical urbanist) and a general avoidance of larger cities in general (the biggest city he went through beyond Largo was Cape Giraudeau, MO, pop. 35k in 1997), likely he kept his wits about him and didn't blame others for his incompetence. (The few times he was hit was due to conditions outside of anyone's control--hills with low sight lines, cycling after sunset).

 

[AnotherOne]

It's going to be interesting when the educated dweebs pull this shit to pieces in a hundred years; the online fagmentation and echo-chamber effect has completely destroyed the ability for these kinds of movements to gain real ground; but made them all the more able to gain apparent ground.

You see it everytime a carfucker encounters an actual bike enjoyer who has improved their town, they hate each other almost instantly; more so than either hate Trump and Elon in a cyber truck.

notjustbikes is astroturfed to hell, so I expect them to actually gain ground in the future. They're the mentally ill foot soldiers of the great reset and their ranks have swelled remarkably since the covid lockdowns. The western elite for one reason or another wants to crush the standard of living for the average person (while maintaining theirs) and restricting car ownership aligns well with that.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

notjustbikes is astroturfed to hell, so I expect them to actually gain ground in the future. They're the mentally ill foot soldiers of the great reset and their ranks have swelled remarkably since the covid lockdowns. The western elite for one reason or another wants to crush the standard of living for the average person (while maintaining theirs) and restricting car ownership aligns well with that.

They are already doing this with their mandates that 100% of cars manufactured by 2035 have to be Electric.

CBC even acknowledges that electric sales have hit their ceiling because only the Retards have bought them and normal people know to stay away or can't afford the overpriced junk. Yet they still maintain that the 2035 mandates must be met.

This is all at the same time where they slap 100% tariffs on cheap Chinese EVs that people could actually afford.

In summary all Journos and Politicians need to be beheaded.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

can't afford the overpriced junk

This is the real problem, electric cars or even hybrid cars or something like 10 grand more expensive without the stupid rebates from the government they’re absolutely worthless. I would love to have a cheap shitty EV and yet there is no economical way for me to ever buy one, unless I build one myself.

 

[Atypical Dog]

This is the real problem, electric cars or even hybrid cars or something like 10 grand more expensive without the stupid rebates from the government they’re absolutely worthless. I would love to have a cheap shitty EV and yet there is no economical way for me to ever buy one, unless I build one myself.

Shame they don't sell one of these:

https://jetourauto.ph/icecream

Small. Light. Designed for light loads and short ranges where you can recharge on both ends. Literally the perfect EV. Not perfect for all of our needs, but if you're just grabbing groceries or traversing the bughive, better than bringing out the car.

CBC even acknowledges that electric sales have hit their ceiling because only the Retards have bought them and normal people know to stay away or can't afford the overpriced junk. Yet they still maintain that the 2035 mandates must be met.

This is all at the same time where they slap 100% tariffs on cheap Chinese EVs that people could actually afford.

Holding up the 2035 target sounds good until 2035. I doubt it will be legally enforced, but if it is, I'm sure they'll carve out exceptions for things like trucks/vans. Watch as everyone gets themselves a Ford Transit, the new SUV.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Holding up the 2035 target sounds good until 2035. I doubt it will be legally enforced, but if it is, I'm sure they'll carve out exceptions for things like trucks/vans. Watch as everyone gets themselves a Ford Transit, the new SUV.

It might not even reach 2035. Lofty goals are (generally) made when prices of goods is expected to remain cheap or go down. It's like when Kroger and Walmart (and several others) promised in 2016 that by 2025, 100% of their egg sales would be cage-free. But then stuff happened like rapid inflation (and a bunch of poultry farm fires) and decided to pull the plug on their "commitment" in the early 2020s.

In other cases, they don't decide to make changes and prices shoot up. Ironically, these progressive policies just end up fucking over the lower-income brackets anyway.

 

[Eternal Gopnik]

Holding up the 2035 target sounds good until 2035. I doubt it will be legally enforced, but if it is, I'm sure they'll carve out exceptions for things like trucks/vans. Watch as everyone gets themselves a Ford Transit, the new SUV.

Of course they will, eventually. At least here in Europe they're openly saying they will - "Don't worry about the new insane emission standards/mandatory EVs etc., if it turns out to be implausible they'll just revise the laws!" Well except, I or anyone who isn't insane could tell you were implausible years ago when they were first proposed, and carmakers are still having to spend eye-watering amounts of money trying to meet them, it's not something you do at once. All that money is being wasted, and the costs are obviously being passed on to customers.