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[S.C.U.D.]

/r/fuckcars user wants all cars limited to 15 mph:

These same posters love riding their ebikes at 30+mph without a helmet.

 

[Glowie]

/r/fuckcars user wants all cars limited to 15 mph:
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Redditors are proud serfs

These same posters love riding their ebikes at 30+mph without a helmet.

"Bikes are totally different!"

 

[Cyberpunk Panatela]

Just thought to share this.

Right at the end of that video that dude shows what seems to be a coin-operated bicycle rental stall. Is this shit still around in London?

Reason I ask is it usually turns out to be a catastrophic failure due to the common problem of delinquents renting one, riding around and then abandoning the bicycle when they get bored or fuck it up. These abandoned bikes later get picked up by the police and impounded, leaving the rental company with fines when they come and pick them up.

That business model has failed in several cities and many cities worldwide now forbid it altogether. If it's successful in London, what are they doing differently?

On another topic, these guys with their "e-bikes" posing as "cyclists" just piss me off. Those things are either motorbikes or scooters by any sensible definition, and their owners should lose their faggotry and admit it. Bunch of retards.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

Reason I ask is it usually turns out to be a catastrophic failure due to the common problem of delinquents renting one, riding around and then abandoning the bicycle when they get bored or fuck it up. These abandoned bikes later get picked up by the police and impounded, leaving the rental company with fines when they come and pick them up.

That business model has failed in several cities and many cities worldwide now forbid it altogether. If it's successful in London, what are they doing differently?

Yeah I remember those fucking lime scooters and whatever the bike rental company was in Cleveland. Gotta love all these wonderful ideas that would only work in a homogenous, high trust society and even then would still get mogged by cars. As far as nogs stealling them, I once found one of those scooters in someone's yard all the way out on my parent's street. All the pick up/drop points were in downtown Cleveland and all the trendy bugpeople neighborhoods. I can only imagine how it got to Euclid

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

E-bikes are the fucking motte and bailey vehicle. They’re an innocent bike when attacked but a full vehicle when demanding access.

 

[IdiotPlusPlus]

I don't think any of them really consider how truck traffic works and it's one reason you can't just replace all truck traffic with rail terminals. Even if that was actually useful (that one in Oregon did no business), the reality is all the truck-to-rail terminals would become bottlenecks on their own.

They still bitch either way, locally there's a viaduct/tunnel freeway connector being built to take trucks off roads around the Port and they bitch endlessly about it, even though they are building a special raised Bike Path between the lanes for part of it, partly because they complain about all the traffic lights on the existing road/path and that they keep killing themselves blindly riding in front of trucks like goddamn lemmings lol

 

[teriyakiburns]

Right at the end of that video that dude shows what seems to be a coin-operated bicycle rental stall. Is this shit still around in London?

Yes. The Boris Bikes are one of the few successful things from when he was mayor (probably because they were originally proposed by his predecessor). They were originally only available to members of the bike scheme, but after 2010 they were available to anyone. E-bikes are still part of a members-only scheme, meaning you have to register online before you can use them. You pay using a credit card, so there's no chance of just dropping in coins and riding off into the sunset. If you don't return the bike within 24 hours you get a large fine, which turns into a CCJ if you don't pay it and gets you a visit from the bailiffs soon after.

 

[Eternal Gopnik]

I don't think any of them really consider how truck traffic works and it's one reason you can't just replace all truck traffic with rail terminals. Even if that was actually useful (that one in Oregon did no business), the reality is all the truck-to-rail terminals would become bottlenecks on their own. Here's a terminal in Pasadena, Texas that's a truck-to-boat terminal and the issues it causes when fully operational.
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That's amazing, I've had this exact same thing happen in Cities: Skylines

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

/r/fuckcars user wants all cars limited to 15 mph:
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Aussie doesn't mention their gun ban challenge: LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE

These abandoned bikes later get picked up by the police and impounded, leaving the rental company with fines when they come and pick them up.

In all the cities near me that what happened sometimes, most of the time the bike would end up in the rivers or the lake.

That's amazing, I've had this exact same thing happen in Cities: Skylines

That game is actually a fairly decent, if basic, traffic simulator.

 

[unaboomer]

Notice the only way they can make their ideas seem better by comparison is by forcing cars to be less effective.

What I find funny about that Plebbitor's retarded take is cars are still better even without the speed advantage. A car will still have A/C, seating for passengers, and more cargo capacity, all without pedalling or getting rained on.

Those things are either motorbikes or scooters by any sensible definition, and their owners should lose their faggotry and admit it.

This double standard is what pisses me off about e-bikes. Not only do they receive the privileges of both pedestrians and vehicles, they also have special exemption from laws governing "motorized vehicles". An 80cc dirt bike is slower than an e-bike, yet you'll face impoundment, points on your license (or arrest for driving without a license), and huge fines for driving an "unregistered vehicle" just because it runs on gas instead of electricity.

Speaking of e-bike regulations, it appears some states have proposed laws to curb the e-bike menace (link|archive):


I find it most cathartic that the urbanist paradise New York is proposing the most restrictions, including ones that will make bike fags pay their fair share for using public roads.

Given that this came from a blog maintained by a bike lobby, theWhy These Bills Matter segment contains the typical urbanist sophistry you'd expect:

 

[Meriasek]

They can take my unregulated 40 yo steel frame bikes out of my cold, dead hands. The right to ride over 25 kph shall not be infringed!

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

It's amazing (to me) how many people of all walks of life - liberal, right-liberal, idiots, niggers, faggots, whites, rednecks, etc - simply do not understand the concept of "hardly anyone does it so nobody gives a shit".

This applies to so many things - the reason there isn't laws about walking around on your hands is because nobody does it, and if one person does they cause so little problems that nobody cares.

If everyone starts doing it, then there's shit that has to be handled and dealt with.

Which means that when nobody rides bikes the bikers get away with anything because they're so rare - but when everyone rides them, the problems are so common that solutions have to be put in place.

This is the underlying issue with the "never let anyone find out about your hobby" type things - retards ruin everything by numbers if nothing else.

 

[Yamamura]

This is the underlying issue with the "never let anyone find out about your hobby" type things - retards ruin everything by numbers if nothing else.

This is pretty much my thought about whenever they post pictures of bikes in the bike lane passing cars in bumper to bumper traffic on a street. The thing is because there are so few people using it, it seems fast by comparison. If everyone started doing it you would have people waiting to turn, merging, etc and then you get exactly the same problem again. Making a system efficient becomes progressively more difficult as you keep introducing more people into it.

 

[JJLiautaud]

Right at the end of that video that dude shows what seems to be a coin-operated bicycle rental stall. Is this shit still around in London?

Reason I ask is it usually turns out to be a catastrophic failure due to the common problem of delinquents renting one, riding around and then abandoning the bicycle when they get bored or fuck it up. These abandoned bikes later get picked up by the police and impounded, leaving the rental company with fines when they come and pick them up.

That business model has failed in several cities and many cities worldwide now forbid it altogether. If it's successful in London, what are they doing differently?

On another topic, these guys with their "e-bikes" posing as "cyclists" just piss me off. Those things are either motorbikes or scooters by any sensible definition, and their owners should lose their faggotry and admit it. Bunch of retards.

The video is 11+ years old

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Making a system efficient becomes progressively more difficult as you keep introducing more people into it.

This is theoretically where the train wins, because it's long and large and many doored and doesn't really change the operating parameters if one person gets on or a hundred.

The problem there, of course, is that the costs need to be allocated amongst the users, and there's a huge difference between an empty train and a full one.

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

I find it most cathartic that the urbanist paradise New York is proposing the most restrictions, including ones that will make bike fags pay their fair share for using public roads.

Louis Rossman made a video about a year ago where predicted that these restrictions will happen unless e-bikes themselves start to self regulate fast. He doubted it would happen but as an e-bike enthusiast wanted to try/rant.

If you aren't up to watching the video, his main points are: E-biking fits NY unusual needs better than cars or motorcycles. E-biking made him happier because he didn't have use the shit show that is NY public transit anymore. Delivery drivers on e-bikes are starting to really piss everyone off because they bike like absolutely maniacs and other assholes on e-bikes are not helping. He does his best to be a considerate biker because allows him to keep e-biking as unbothered as possible as long as possible and he highly recommends others to do so also.

To quote the video: "The fastest way to lose your freedom is to cause everybody around you to advocate for your freedom to be taken away because they hate you".

 

[BerserkKing99]

Hey cyclists, EAT THIS!

 

[Yamamura]

This is theoretically where the train wins, because it's long and large and many doored and doesn't really change the operating parameters if one person gets on or a hundred.

The problem there, of course, is that the costs need to be allocated amongst the users, and there's a huge difference between an empty train and a full one.

I kind of want to add a little caveat in extreme cases like India or China where even despite the large capacity the train still gets overwhelmed and is unable to accommodate the amount of people. I suppose the question becomes add another track or run another train.

Louis Rossman made a video about a year ago where predicted that these restrictions will happen unless e-bikes themselves start to self regulate fast. He doubted it would happen but as an e-bike enthusiast wanted to try/rant.

If you aren't up to watching the video, his main points are: E-biking fits NY unusual needs better than cars or motorcycles. E-biking made him happier because he didn't have use the shit show that is NY public transit anymore. Delivery drivers on e-bikes are starting to really piss everyone off because they bike like absolutely maniacs and other assholes on e-bikes are not helping. He does his best to be a considerate biker because allows him to keep e-biking as unbothered as possible as long as possible and he highly recommends others to do so also.

To quote the video: "The fastest way to lose your freedom is to cause everybody around you to advocate for your freedom to be taken away because they hate you".

I find it funny that the urbanists on reddit will point to gun control when it comes to regulating cars and how it's beneficial. But when it comes to the topic of regulating e-bikes they suddenly turn into "don't tread on me" types. It all comes down to reeeing about banning/regulating something they like vs something they don't.

 

[unaboomer]

But when it comes to the topic of regulating e-bikes they suddenly turn into "don't tread on me" types.

The term I've heard for this is tactical conservatism. Strong Towns shills do this when they parrot Marohn's fiscally conservative argument that roads operate on a net zero budget while simultaniously advocating for subsidized rail projects that operate at a massive loss.

 

[quaawaa]

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