War More than 1,000 people, including Hezbollah members, wounded in Lebanon when pagers explode - Israel blows the balls off Hezbollah members

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BEIRUT, Sept 17 (Reuters) - More than 1,000 people, including Hezbollah fighters and medics, were wounded on Tuesday when the pagers they use to communicate exploded across Lebanon, security sources told Reuters.
A Hezbollah official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the detonation of the pagers was the "biggest security breach" the group had been subjected to in nearly a year of war with Israel.
Israel and the Iran-backed Hezbollah have been engaged in cross-border warfare since the Gaza war erupted last October, the worst such escalation in years.

The Israeli military declined to comment on Reuters enquiries about the detonations.
Iran's Mehr news agency said the Iranian ambassador to Lebanon, Mojtaba Amani, was injured by one of the blasts. Reuters could not immediately confirm the report.
A Reuters journalist saw ambulances rushing through the southern suburbs of the capital Beirut, a Hezbollah stronghold, amid widespread panic. A security source said that devices were also exploding in the south of Lebanon.

At Mt. Lebanon hospital, a Reuters reporter saw motorcycles rushing to the emergency room, where people with their hands bloodied were screaming in pain.
The head of the Nabatieh public hospital in the south of the country, Hassan Wazni, told Reuters that around 40 wounded people were being treated at his facility. The wounds included injuries to the face, eyes and limbs.
The wave of explosions lasted around an hour after the initial detonations, which took place about 3:45 p.m. local time (1345 GMT). It was not immediately clear how the devices were detonated.

Lebanese internal security forces said a number of wireless communication devices were detonated across Lebanon, especially in Beirut's southern suburbs, leading to injuries.
Groups of people huddled at the entrance of buildings to check on people they knew who may have been wounded, the Reuters journalist said.
Regional broadcasters carrying CCTV footage which showed what appeared to be a small handheld device placed next to a grocery store cashier where an individual was paying spontaneously exploding. In other footage, an explosion appeared to knock out someone standing at a fruit stand at a market area.

Lebanon’s crisis operations center, which is run by the health ministry, asked all medical workers to head to their respective hospitals to help cope with the massive numbers of wounded coming into for urgent care. It said health care workers should not use pagers.
The Lebanese Red Cross said more than 50 ambulances and 300 emergency medical staff were dispatched to assist in the evacuation of victims.

Hezbollah fired missiles at Israel immediately after the Oct. 7 attacks by Hamas gunmen on Israel. Hezbollah and Israel have been exchanging fire constantly ever since, while avoiding a major escalation as war rages in Gaza to the south.
Tens of thousands of people have been displaced from towns and villages on both sides of the border by the hostilities.


From OSINT

What we know so far:
- Explosion happened simultanously
- Explosions didn't only happen in Lebanon, but in Syria too so it's a long range to be wireless detonation signal.
- The pager is 'Rugged Pager AR924' produced by a Taiwanese company
- Small Li-Ion battery, can't explode that big
- None of the pagers caught fire, which is common incase of a battery 'explosion' rather they just exploded.
- However the pagers did heat up before
- All exploded pagers were the same model of pager.
- The pagers came from one shipment

Also pretty shitty headline considering this was an attack that could only hit Hezbollah members

Video of the attacks
 
Americans still get whipped up into a frenzy and cry about 9/11 like 25 years later and most of them are fat pudgy retards with no willpower or desire to do anything other than bark and eat hamburgers.

It will be intresting to see how a literal 9/11 equivallent will affect a group of people with actual bite and zeal down the line.

Many people in the thread point out that muzzies use civilians as human shields all the time. Yeah, exactly, that's kinda the point. If people who don't care about human lives get as angry as americans did after 9/11 that's bound to result in something.
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This would work even better than restrictive tariffs to discourage outsourcing. We could finally bring manufacturing back to the united states. Ultimately taking China down a peg or two will save millions of lives.
Because nobody is more trustworthy than major tech companies in the US.

As I've said before the implications for the future are fucking horrifying. People acting like "it was only to stop muh terrorists." Dumb retard just how many civil liberties have been infringed just to "stop terrorism?" Have you dumb faggots already forgotten the Bush and Obama eras? Enjoy wondering if your phone is going to set you on fire if you vote for the wrong candidate.
 
Because nobody is more trustworthy than major tech companies in the US.

As I've said before the implications for the future are fucking horrifying. People acting like "it was only to stop muh terrorists." Dumb retard just how many civil liberties have been infringed just to "stop terrorism?" Have you dumb faggots already forgotten the Bush and Obama eras? Enjoy wondering if your phone is going to set you on fire if you vote for the wrong candidate.
everyone has nuclear bombs now, not a doomer but if those get involved we won’t have to worry about phones.

The odds of this happening in America are low because homeland security lost it after 9/11 and now they watch Arabs like a hawk.
Who knows how many attacks they’ve stopped at this point.
 
Because nobody is more trustworthy than major tech companies in the US.

As I've said before the implications for the future are fucking horrifying. People acting like "it was only to stop muh terrorists." Dumb retard just how many civil liberties have been infringed just to "stop terrorism?" Have you dumb faggots already forgotten the Bush and Obama eras? Enjoy wondering if your phone is going to set you on fire if you vote for the wrong candidate.
Then they can enjoy wondering if all the people who didn't get their hands blown off are going to start burying bombs in the roads and grabbing up their rifles
 
As I've said before the implications for the future are fucking horrifying.
bro. why are you acting like no one has ever thought to put a bomb in a phone or pager before? israel themselves literally did the bomb in a phone thing already. there's no doubt in my mind that the NSA would love backdoor encryption to blow up your phone the moment you say something they don't like. they don't need permission from israel doing it first. no one gives a fuck about morality or 'what if we do something our enemies can start doing' in this conflict, and if you think they do you have deluded yourself to the point of actual mental handicap. the US government does not need israel's permission to blow you up with a phone bomb if they think that's a good idea. the us government doesn't need to be inspired by someone to assassinate people.

the ira used car bombs in their campaigns of terror, why doesn't every government just blow up every single dissident with a car bomb already? there are plenty of terrorist organizations across the planet doing evil shit to people who don't deserve it, and somehow you've picked the one time a terrorist group is targeted specifically, precisely, and effectively, and your big cry-baby about it is to repeat a fifteen-times debunked retard point about 'setting phones on fire', which isn't even close to what happened. your comparisons to bush and obama era legal spying on civilians is buttfuck stupid because israel isn't even part of the united states, so there's nothing illegal to them about spying on us in the first place, and the Five Eyes just share data with each other anyway.

you are a dumb muzzie or a muzzie sympathizer, it's extremely obvious to everyone here. buy a pager, muzzie.
 
I hope you're fine with china shipping C4 laced batteries to random iphones or notebooks all over the fucking world, I hope you and your family are not inside some international flight that some chink journalist is in when he gets a special phonecall.

Because this is what they opened the door to.
Isreal and the US has been sabotaging ammunition stockpiles with explosive dummy rounds for years if not decades at this point. You can't open a door that they have already opened.
 
As I've said before the implications for the future are fucking horrifying.
What implications? That state sanctioned speds with a mission and a budget the world over could fuck you over in a myriad of unforeseeable ways up to killing you and the people around you? Not so different from the world I knew before this story broke tbh
 
This is categorically not a Li-ion (or Lipo) exploit.

A lithium fire would be a brief small hiss/zip of fire and smoke followed by a very big and bright white fire.
Pedantic note: I have seen certain types of cylindrical lithium cells “just explode” without any prior smoke or flame, even causing quite bad injury.

But your point is correct that the pouch cell that would be used in a pager or phone just won’t do that, it will swell up and release gas, and optionally catch on fire.

So this could only have been a tiny amount of plastic explosive with some kind of detonator triggered by a network message. The lithium in the cell would certainly add to the deflagration effect once it is dispersed in air.

But the pagers were specially made to do that, with probably quite a lot of effort made to conceal it. It’s a CIA-level dirty trick but on a huge scale.
 
I think you should stop. You have literally no idea what you are talking about or how pagers work.
A pager is a receive-only device, like an old stereo radio. It can not transmit data back. There is no back channel.
As such there is no back door and there is nothing to monitor. You can not monitor a pager or any more than the GPS sattelites can monitor your GPS receiver in your phone.

It is physically impossible to monitor a pager or track it. That is probably why these guys wanted to use them.
Just to stick my beak in, if I were Hezbollah, I'd be assuming that considering Israel stuck a bomb in my pager and it blew my nuts off, they might also have stuck a little gaps tracker in there too and that super secret training camp I visited over the border in Iran last month might just be a compromised location too.
 
to think israel would just lay down and die is completely retarded.
That's interesting because the IDF did exactly that on October 7th. Beside the fact that they had advanced warning and chose to ignore it, Israel is a pretty small place. You would think it wouldn't have taken several hours for troops to arrive at the music festival and other places under attack when they have access to attack helicopters and fighter jets.
 
Just to stick my beak in, if I were Hezbollah, I'd be assuming that considering Israel stuck a bomb in my pager and it blew my nuts off, they might also have stuck a little gaps tracker in there too and that super secret training camp I visited over the border in Iran last month might just be a compromised location too.
These are the same people who didn't think to check their other electronics after many of them turned into party poppers so it happened again the next day.

It's all rainbows to think they might come to good conclusions about their security at this point.
 
A motorcycle burns at the funeral for Abbas Manam, one of the Hezbollah terrorists killed in the explosions yesterday. His trading card is on the pillar behind it:

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When someone on the thread said that hezbollah was making trading cards for the dead I didn't realize he was being literal.

I want to know what the signal is that triggered it - initially it was said that a signal was sent which overheated the battery which ignited the explosives. So either
1. There’s a way of overheating the battery remotely on a regular device
Or
2. The innards of the pagers were replaced with something that could be told to overheat at a specific signal.
Plastic explosives don't detonate by heat, you can literally set C4 on fire and it won't detonate. You need a special detonator with a shockwave, which is why I don't buy the "overheated battery" story.
 
That's interesting because the IDF did exactly that on October 7th. Beside the fact that they had advanced warning and chose to ignore it, Israel is a pretty small place. You would think it wouldn't have taken several hours for troops to arrive at the music festival and other places under attack when they have access to attack helicopters and fighter jets.
i guess a single small scale terrorist operation is the same as letting muslims invade the entire country, which was what i was talking about, you retarded nigger. god, the muslims pretending to be wignats in this thread are really giving wignats a bad name.
 
empty words from a muslim, considering how muslims use their own civilians as human shields, and how extraordinarily low the civilian deaths and harm have been in this operation so far. even hezbollah admitted that there have been almost no civilian deaths (2, at last count) from this, less than even muslims visit upon each other. you still have yet to correlate being glad muslims are gone with being happy about israel existing, but you're not capable of doing that, so i'm not going to hold my breath.

my suggestion if you're really really worried about the civilian population of your country is not to have your terrorist organization headquartered in the middle of a major city, and don't violate the laws of war by having all of your 'military' be plainclothes 'civilians' until they need to grab the gun and run in. also not shooting rockets into other countries' civilian centers to kill as many civilians as you can to cause terror and to dishearten the people helps. oh, and another thing they could do is stop raping and pillaging so much, that'd probably give me a lot more sympathy for the dead hezbollah.

except if they did all that, of course, they wouldn't be a terrorist group, and this would just be a regular war that i wouldn't care about at all.

How many times have you made this argument in this thread? You are ignoring all of the broader implications this trend of Israeli escalation has for The West to fixate on this. This asinine assertion that randoms in some market square and (now apparently funeral attendees) being killed and maimed because of who their parents or families are, or even because of who their neighbors or loose associates are is totally cool bruh. You can't know your neighbor doesn't have a meth lab or a Rekeita sex dungeon. How do you even think this works in dense chaos of the 3rd world? You can't choose where you are born but you can choose not be a pro bono shill for the JIDF.

It doesn't even matter what you or I think about the ethics of painting the browns red, what is done is done. What matters is how the muzzies will perceive it, how they will react to it. I'm not interested in conflict accounting of death tolls going back decades, I'm interested in real politic. I'm interested in showing people that while they are making ball jokes, Mordechai is in the back rubbing his hands together and scheming to drain their coffers and put the blood on their hands.

Ps. If you want to accuse me of being a muzzie, then I challenge you to present proof of ham sandwich and I will do the same (bacon or other pork products are also acceptable). Then we can be sure there are no semites here.
 
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