War More than 1,000 people, including Hezbollah members, wounded in Lebanon when pagers explode - Israel blows the balls off Hezbollah members

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/dozens-hezbollah-members-wounded-lebanon-when-pagers-exploded-sources-witnesses-2024-09-17/

BEIRUT, Sept 17 (Reuters) - More than 1,000 people, including Hezbollah fighters and medics, were wounded on Tuesday when the pagers they use to communicate exploded across Lebanon, security sources told Reuters.
A Hezbollah official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the detonation of the pagers was the "biggest security breach" the group had been subjected to in nearly a year of war with Israel.
Israel and the Iran-backed Hezbollah have been engaged in cross-border warfare since the Gaza war erupted last October, the worst such escalation in years.

The Israeli military declined to comment on Reuters enquiries about the detonations.
Iran's Mehr news agency said the Iranian ambassador to Lebanon, Mojtaba Amani, was injured by one of the blasts. Reuters could not immediately confirm the report.
A Reuters journalist saw ambulances rushing through the southern suburbs of the capital Beirut, a Hezbollah stronghold, amid widespread panic. A security source said that devices were also exploding in the south of Lebanon.

At Mt. Lebanon hospital, a Reuters reporter saw motorcycles rushing to the emergency room, where people with their hands bloodied were screaming in pain.
The head of the Nabatieh public hospital in the south of the country, Hassan Wazni, told Reuters that around 40 wounded people were being treated at his facility. The wounds included injuries to the face, eyes and limbs.
The wave of explosions lasted around an hour after the initial detonations, which took place about 3:45 p.m. local time (1345 GMT). It was not immediately clear how the devices were detonated.

Lebanese internal security forces said a number of wireless communication devices were detonated across Lebanon, especially in Beirut's southern suburbs, leading to injuries.
Groups of people huddled at the entrance of buildings to check on people they knew who may have been wounded, the Reuters journalist said.
Regional broadcasters carrying CCTV footage which showed what appeared to be a small handheld device placed next to a grocery store cashier where an individual was paying spontaneously exploding. In other footage, an explosion appeared to knock out someone standing at a fruit stand at a market area.

Lebanon’s crisis operations center, which is run by the health ministry, asked all medical workers to head to their respective hospitals to help cope with the massive numbers of wounded coming into for urgent care. It said health care workers should not use pagers.
The Lebanese Red Cross said more than 50 ambulances and 300 emergency medical staff were dispatched to assist in the evacuation of victims.

Hezbollah fired missiles at Israel immediately after the Oct. 7 attacks by Hamas gunmen on Israel. Hezbollah and Israel have been exchanging fire constantly ever since, while avoiding a major escalation as war rages in Gaza to the south.
Tens of thousands of people have been displaced from towns and villages on both sides of the border by the hostilities.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/dozens-hezbollah-members-wounded-lebanon-when-pagers-exploded-sources-witnesses-2024-09-17/

From OSINT

What we know so far:
- Explosion happened simultanously
- Explosions didn't only happen in Lebanon, but in Syria too so it's a long range to be wireless detonation signal.
- The pager is 'Rugged Pager AR924' produced by a Taiwanese company
- Small Li-Ion battery, can't explode that big
- None of the pagers caught fire, which is common incase of a battery 'explosion' rather they just exploded.
- However the pagers did heat up before
- All exploded pagers were the same model of pager.
- The pagers came from one shipment

Also pretty shitty headline considering this was an attack that could only hit Hezbollah members

Video of the attacks

 

[PedalTwo]

It's because they expect rocket fire to happen over that airspace. The sand niggers have to retaliate in some way and it's usually by firing off rockets or missiles.

Hezbollah has been firing rockets into Israel almost daily for a year. They’re worried about more than that.

 

[draggs]

wow this is really impressive. I am sure a lot of enthusiasts will be studying this operation for years and all the moving parts and planning that needed to come together to make it work. From a moral perspective I have no Dog(Zero) in this fight, either could win and I don't care, either as a Christian or an American (even if my government is under the delusion this area of land is of strategic importance to US security).

From a strategic perspective however, I feel like the current Israeli government fundamentally misunderstands the sort of conflict they are fighting. From how they have dealt with Gaza, to the also technically impressive assassinations a few months ago, to this, Israel seems to be under the misguided presumption that it is fighting a war of attrition. The problem is when just considering the basic numbers on each side, and the dynamics at play this is a war of attrition which cannot be won. Ultimately Israel is a nation with 6 million people with less than 100 miles of strategic depth, where half live in a single city, surrounded by hundreds of millions of fundamental ontological enemies. These numbers simply do not add up when fighting an attritional war.

What previous Israeli governments have partially understood, and what is true, is that this rather is more akin to a spiritual war. Or to get away from theology perhaps we will say a psychic war. The fact is, in an all-out conflict, if every neighboring Muslim state was to fight a full-scale war with Israel, it would lose. This is not the 70s anymore, especially if we count Iran. If the will was truly there, Israel would lose. Even if the ratio was monstrous against the Muslims. Of course, however the will has not been there, not even close, for a very long time. What this means is that Israel should care more about breaking and forestalling the will of its enemies to fight than just in purely attritional accomplishments like this or destroying Hamas in Gaza down to the last tunnel in a Stalingrad tier urban battle.

Someone earlier in the thread pointed out the adage that if you wound one enemy you neutralize three. Let us take this as true and say half of Hezbollah is now neutralized, the planned imminent attack now forestalled. A decisive operational victory which can easily turn into a massive strategic defeat if it inspires 1 million more Muslims to join the fight against Israel, and their deaths in a similarly attritional way inspire all their children politically. And make no mistake but that is what you do when you create martyrs using tactics like this, including attacks in otherwise not directly engaged nations. Manpower has never been the limiting factor of Israel's enemies. It's the cheapest thing you can take from them. I am not saying "if you kill your enemies they win", but for Israel's particular situation, the numbers are NEVER going to add up in purely an attritional strategy. It is possible to break a people's morale and will and still kill some, in fact it is usually necessary. But the way you do it, the culpability, and the concurrent political and diplomatic horse-trading alongside it is essential. Previous Israeli governments were better at this.

For those who view Israel as a western colonial enterprise, representing evil and Satan itself. A nation whom your God commands you to destroy and promises you eternal life in pursuit of martyrdom, a nation that has inspired fighters with little more than rocks to continue to fight against it despite a decade long siege and significant bombing do you think 2000 mutilating pagers are going to make them stop caring and go back to regular life, or just inspire more anger, more confirmation in the ultimate evil of their adversary and more resistance. Again, if 5% of its enemies took up arms it would be twice Israel's entire population. For every 1 person inspired to directly fight Israel 3 more are inspired to get involved politically to build the societal will to destroy it. Just look at the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt which almost took over that nation. How do you think they would be responding to Gaza if they had not been ejected by the Egyptian military? And that movement's heirs are just as large now as it was back then. A movement that despite being repressed and banned represents more than Israel's entire population just by its operations within Egypt. When gaza gets annexed and another refugee crisis is set off in the direction of egypt do you think this movement will shrink?

Israel will never win an attritional war and will never simply kill all its enemies regardless of how competent they are operationally. Until they realize the war, they are fighting is psychic and not attritional they will continue to alienate their allies that secure their very existence and stand as the last psychic barrier to mustering the Muslim will for invasion and just create new fighters against them. So yeah, this operation is pretty impressive, but I think it is just another in a long line of strategic miscalculations this current Israeli administration has bought into with serious long-term consequences.

Sweet, a schizo post that isn't boring old conventional Joo sperging

 

[Happy Fish]

In short this is the nature of generational war, Hatfields and McCoys, Bloods and Crips, Arabs and Jews. This isn't a victory it's just another escalation of the conflict and I won't short sightedly cheer it on knowing that it will lead to hyper inflation and AIPAC puppets trying to draft my kids. Every time this happens and we abide it we get more and more inexorably tied to their conflict.

Threads like this always devolve into this mentality too. If you think it was bad the Crips killed some innocent people in their driveby, that means you must be a Blood. It is really fucking stupid.

 

[LaxerBRO]

They're exploding at funerals of Hezbollah members

Cool.

They can just use one grave for two bodies.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Some fun from Twitter



Her relative



Mf got one eye on the goat he's fucking and the other eye looking out for the owner

 

[Carrier Pigeon]

That makes me wonder, is it because the airlines are spooked because they are ill informed about how the explosives were activated or is it because they fear a member of Hezbollah (or someone with a pager) could take a flight and get hit with it and through that fear cause the airline to go down? Seems like the former than the latter, with bypassing Israeli airspace all together.

Lufthansa is normally super quick with flight suspensions, as soon as anything happens. Back when COVID and the Ukraine War started, they also suspended flights super quickly

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

now that was a significantly larger explosion than the ones we saw from the pagers. what in the world did they stuff into those party favors?

Might have been a chain explosion. All it takes is some combustible items within proximity of the pager explosion and there it goes. tbh I'm surprised there hasn't been more major ones in many of these area's with how many pagers were supposedly detonated.

What you mentioned, they probably did a quick risk assessment and decided to pull the flights. It's not worthy to lose a plane since they will loose a lot of clients too. Regular flights are a sign of healthy economy since they are often the first that gets spooked since they are very risk-averse.

True, I also thought it might be that "hacker/tech manipulation" fear that some companies seem to still maintain where they think it's like that old meme about the Russian hacker (In this case Israel) typing random crap on a keyboard and everything blowing up. It's surprising how many people still believe that to be how it works.

 

[EyeGuy]

A motorcycle burns at the funeral for Abbas Manam, one of the Hezbollah terrorists killed in the explosions yesterday. His trading card is on the pillar behind it:

 

[AN/ALR56]

empty words from a muslim, considering how muslims use their own civilians as human shields, and how extraordinarily low the civilian deaths and harm have been in this operation so far. even hezbollah admitted that there have been almost no civilian deaths (2, at last count) from this, less than even muslims visit upon each other. you still have yet to correlate being glad muslims are gone with being happy about israel existing, but you're not capable of doing that, so i'm not going to hold my breath.

my suggestion if you're really really worried about the civilian population of your country is not to have your terrorist organization headquartered in the middle of a major city, and don't violate the laws of war by having all of your 'military' be plainclothes 'civilians' until they need to grab the gun and run in. also not shooting rockets into other countries' civilian centers to kill as many civilians as you can to cause terror and to dishearten the people helps. oh, and another thing they could do is stop raping and pillaging so much, that'd probably give me a lot more sympathy for the dead hezbollah.

except if they did all that, of course, they wouldn't be a terrorist group, and this would just be a regular war that i wouldn't care about at all.

I hope you still defend this shit when known government oppositionist start getting their homes set on fire and their children maimed when their phones get c4'ed.


It's amazing how kikes set retarded precedents, American diplomats are running 24/7 efforts to avoid a war in Lebanon, get the hostages back but kikes start a war they know america will be forced into.

I hope you're fine with china shipping C4 laced batteries to random iphones or notebooks all over the fucking world, I hope you and your family are not inside some international flight that some chink journalist is in when he gets a special phonecall.

Because this is what they opened the door to.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

I hope you still defend this shit when known government oppositionist start getting their homes set on fire and their children maimed when their phones get c4'ed.


It's amazing how kikes set retarded precedents, American diplomats are running 24/7 efforts to avoid a war in Lebanon, get the hostages back but kikes start a war they know america will be forced into.

I hope you're fine with china shipping C4 laced batteries to random iphones or notebooks all over the fucking world, I hope you and your family are not inside some international flight that some chink journalist is in when he gets a special phonecall.

Because this is what they opened the door to.

> he thinks it's not already happening

Dissidents die in mysterious fires, car crashes, and plane crashes all the time.

 

[autistic dog]

I hope you're fine with china shipping C4 laced batteries to random iphones or notebooks all over the fucking world, I hope you and your family are not inside some international flight that some chink journalist is in when he gets a special phonecall.

This would work even better than restrictive tariffs to discourage outsourcing. We could finally bring manufacturing back to the united states. Ultimately taking China down a peg or two will save millions of lives.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Hezbollah had it coming if they were stupid enough to not check or destroy all electronic devices acquired in the past year.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

I hope you still defend this shit when known government oppositionist start getting their homes set on fire and their children maimed when their phones get c4'ed.

so what precedent was set here, 'governments will go to any length to kill groups they deem terrorists, up to and including boobytrapping explicitly terrorist communications equipment'? if you don't already assume your enemy on the level of power and influence that israel has is doing that, you are a nigger of the highest order and you should go buy a pager right now.

it's very cute that you think that these sandniggers, chinks, russoids, ukroids, etc have any honor. it's war, nigga, get your fucking head out of your ass and smell the coffee. there were almost no civilian casualties at all, and you're shitting your pants that the people who use their own wives and children as human shields during raids are not going to be able to keep doing that.

 

[draggs]

I hope you still defend this shit when known government oppositionist start getting their homes set on fire and their children maimed when their phones get c4'ed.


It's amazing how kikes set retarded precedents, American diplomats are running 24/7 efforts to avoid a war in Lebanon, get the hostages back but kikes start a war they know america will be forced into.

I hope you're fine with china shipping C4 laced batteries to random iphones or notebooks all over the fucking world, I hope you and your family are not inside some international flight that some chink journalist is in when he gets a special phonecall.

Because this is what they opened the door to.

Why would China do all these things that would start a war with the United States

China doesn't want to start a war with the United States that way

China wants to start a war with the United States by large missile barrages on Japan, Taiwan, Guam, Wake, and probably Pearl too if they can get assets in position that far out. Not by asploding iPads

 

[Oilspill Battery]

Someone earlier in the thread pointed out the adage that if you wound one enemy you neutralize three. Let us take this as true and say half of Hezbollah is now neutralized, the planned imminent attack now forestalled. A decisive operational victory which can easily turn into a massive strategic defeat if it inspires 1 million more Muslims to join the fight against Israel, and their deaths in a similarly attritional way inspire all their children politically. And make no mistake but that is what you do when you create martyrs using tactics like this, including attacks in otherwise not directly engaged nations. Manpower has never been the limiting factor of Israel's enemies. It's the cheapest thing you can take from them. I am not saying "if you kill your enemies they win", but for Israel's particular situation, the numbers are NEVER going to add up in purely an attritional strategy. It is possible to break a people's morale and will and still kill some, in fact it is usually necessary. But the way you do it, the culpability, and the concurrent political and diplomatic horse-trading alongside it is essential. Previous Israeli governments were better at this.

Americans still get whipped up into a frenzy and cry about 9/11 like 25 years later and most of them are fat pudgy retards with no willpower or desire to do anything other than bark and eat hamburgers.

It will be intresting to see how a literal 9/11 equivallent will affect a group of people with actual bite and zeal down the line.

Many people in the thread point out that muzzies use civilians as human shields all the time. Yeah, exactly, that's kinda the point. If people who don't care about human lives get as angry as americans did after 9/11 that's bound to result in something.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

It's amazing how kikes set retarded precedents, American diplomats are running 24/7 efforts to avoid a war in Lebanon, get the hostages back but kikes start a war they know america will be forced into.

Lmao "getting the hostages back" is browbeating Bibi into accepting a suicidal deal, getting him to accept it, and then Hamas refuses. Rinse and repeat

 

[Otterly]

Everyone else in the store was fine.

Well, maybe. There’s traumatic air pressure damage if you’re near something that blows up, which can damage eyes, ears and lungs. That lassie on the checkout may well have her hearing damaged

Before someone suggests using carrier pigeons, have they checked the pigeons for bombs?

Extinct unfortunately however the Jews are innocent of that one

This is assuming the detonation trigger relied on the default pager firmware to receive the detonation signal instead of having its own seperate one. It’s not absurd to assume that the pagers had a backdoor in them for mossad to monitor.

They’d need to be not really pagers for that though.

The reports in Lebanon talk about many types of devices - walkie-talkies, cell phones, fingerprint devices, devices powered by solar energy and more.

Already more than 130 victims in Lebanon. Kitchen appliances and solar batteries also began to explode, they write in the network.

Ok now that is interesting IF it’s true. Or is it to create a sense of fear that any device or appliance could be involved?

The USS Liberty wasn't a false flag, was owned up to immediately, restitution was paid and it was 55+ YEARS AGO.

WW2 was 80 plus years ago. So let’s forget all about those camps then? We sorted it out, liberated the camps, died in large numbers doing so and stopped the Nazis and we are still told we have some kind of original sin thing guilt thing over it and we have to import these violent third world terrorists en masse to atone. I think people have lost sympathy

I want to know what the signal is that triggered it - initially it was said that a signal was sent which overheated the battery which ignited the explosives. So either
1. There’s a way of overheating the battery remotely on a regular device
Or
2. The innards of the pagers were replaced with something that could be told to overheat at a specific signal.
What is the process of sending a signal remotely to overheat a battery, becasue that IS something that’s concerning for regular electronics

 

[draggs]

Americans still get whipped up into a frenzy and cry about 9/11 like 25 years later and most of them are fat pudgy retards with no willpower or desire to do anything other than bark and eat hamburgers.

It will be intresting to see how a literal 9/11 equivallent will affect a group of people with actual bite and zeal down the line.

Many people in the thread point out that muzzies use civilians as human shields all the time. Yeah, exactly, that's kinda the point. If people who don't care about human lives get as angry as americans did after 9/11 that's bound to result in something.

Any more autistic onanist consequences will never be the same posts and I may die of laughter

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

Americans still get whipped up into a frenzy and cry about 9/11 like 25 years later and most of them are fat pudgy retards with no willpower or desire to do anything other than bark and eat hamburgers.

It will be intresting to see how a literal 9/11 equivallent will affect a group of people with actual bite and zeal down the line.

Many people in the thread point out that muzzies use civilians as human shields all the time. Yeah, exactly, that's kinda the point. If people who don't care about human lives get as angry as americans did after 9/11 that's bound to result in something.

they are literal suicide bombers, you dumb nigger. what the fuck else are they gonna do, get really mad and shout louder while they blow themselves up for their god? you are looking at this like muzzies are anything other than violent mongrels unwilling to be reasonable at any stage. there was never peace to be had with them, and to think israel would just lay down and die is completely retarded.

 

[Michael_Jordan_Peterson]

the one 12 year old girl was killed was one of their brides.