/horror/ general megathread - Let's talk about movies and shit.

I understand, I have many incorrect opinions myself. You can only call it like you see it. I don't blame you, but I really hate Jason X, a whole lot. Can't pick a clear un-favorite between it and Jason Goes to Hell. They are both very hard to watch.
It is largely due to nostalgia, and were it not for this and the space gimmick giving it an extra cheese boost it would be rivalling V for the worst spot, with V being my pick due to just how badly made the movie was on a technical standpoint (i.e. scenes randomly starting and ending as if cut a minute too early/late, the garbled excuse of a script) and how overtly fucking annoying its shitty duhurrr comedy angle was, which specifically made the movie actively annoying to watch rather than just boring or disappointing

Anyway, on to the next movie.

PROM NIGHT

Premise:
Interchangable "someone dun died accidentally and now a mystery killer is out for revenge on those who dun did it" storyline, this time being waged on a bunch of high schoolers who accidentally killed kid when they were in grade school during their prom night. I chose this one because as I mentioned before, the godawful 2000s remake of this shit managed to qualify as my "worst horror movie I personally watched" due to how much of a joyless fucking chore to watch it was, unlike so many technically worse yet still vastly more enjoyable schlocky exploitationy flicks I have watched before, and so I feel its only right to see just how much of a downgrade it truly was.

Execution: Open on a derelict school and a bunch of child actors singing about how "the killers are cumming" which I guess is one way to start a movie. Music is already eh but maybe it will veer into my beloved horror synth before the night is out. Child actors are playing serial killer themed tag I guess, and as per the gentleman's code I will not judge child acting unless it gets really fucking bad.....cue the future main character and her siblings dressed as french mimes and....wait Leslie Nielsen is in this? Huh and the movie came out same year as Airplane so....I guess this qualifies as one his last fleeting moments of non-farce. The literal tard of her two siblings goes inside to join in, and the kids automatically add her to serial killer tag (i.e. literal tag but they chant about how they are gonna fuckin knife you while they chase you) which eventually devolves into good old fashioned kicking of the autistic, causing the tard girl to accidentally fall out a window to her death. Not wanting to go to shitty child actor jail they all swear themselves to secrecy.

ENTER NIELSEN.
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Apparently falling out a window means the kid had a train ran on her by the local prevert
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Sorry, that was supposed to go on the previous post, but cant be bothered to change now....anyway Nielsen is apparently the kid's father, and his wife is somehow a worse actor than the child actors. Six years later and it seems the quality of the film abruptly improved, and the remaining family is visiting the tard kid's grave, while her angy mute brother glares and clenches his fists....2 seconds imma check something (goes to check wikipedia) ok yeah he's the killer. Sorry to spoil that shit for you. Anyway main character chick turns out to be Jaimie Lee Curtis, although thats hardly a surprise as she was in like half these kinds of movies at this time. She casually manages to out-act the rest of the cast going forwards while chewing her breakfast so atleast between her and Nielsen we have some decent talent on screen. Cue random red herring janitor all three characters notice and make "gee that creepy motherfucker sure is likely to go on a killing spree soon..." comments about. Next scenes and we get our killer making his death threats by phone, and I wonder if this was an inspiration for Ghostface or if there is some earlier root source. First 20 minutes and shit is pretty slow, and not really anything of note to show beyond the two big names in the cast.

Anyway apparently the tard girl death was blamed on some random nonce who we meet in flash back getting set on fire, and who we are immediately told has escaped from the mental hospital so yeah we are really racking up the red herrings tonight. The spoopy calls lose what little spoopy factor they have as we go through effectively the same scene over and over and over again. Oh yeah and one of the chicks randomly got seduced by some fatass manlet elvis impersonator driving a windowless van who seems like a far more interesting character than most seen thus far. They are really playing up the rando nonce red herring as the killer, and I guess they are sorta aping the halloween plot with him randomly escaping the mental hospital and hightailing it back to his hometown. Anyway jamie lee curtis is dancing randomly which is kinda neat I guess....wait no now she is engaging in relationship melodrama with another 30 year old teenager. Ok now she randomly got groped by another red herring in a balaclava, tard brother jumps him, gets jumped by another red herring who he beats down along with anothe red herring.....fuck my ass this whole rundown smells of fucking fish.

I guess we are still entertaining the nonce red herring subplot as the police chief tries to hunt him down....and back to the main plot. Half an hour down and I am really not liking the look of the next hour, especially if we keep getting fucking flash backs every two seconds in the middle of conversation. Blonde chick randomly flashes her ass at red herring no.1 because I guess they remembered they are failing the mandatory nudity quota....and cue the shower scene. Oh and I guess we are getting another spooky scene which....goes nowhere beyond a mirror randomly being broken as Red Herring no.1 lurks nearby. Scenes happen, and we are now halfway through the movie. Red Herrings No.3/4/5 have teamed up with designated bitch girl to do....something bad I guess as they all take off in a shit encrusted car to the prom. Now we get some reasonable quality spoopy shots of the empty school which finally raise the fear factor in this movie to that of your average liminal spaces compilation. Oh and I guess the prom is happening now.....kinda feel it should have had more buildup but whatever. For some reason the police chief is hanging out there instead of hunting Red Herring no.2. Cut to Leslie Nielsen awkwardly dancing with Jamie Lee Curtis and I have to remind myself not to laugh. Oh and speaking of dancing now Curtis is having yet anuddah dedicated dancing scene and....wasnt this supposed to be a fucking slasher movie? I mean she's a good dancer but I am feeling kinda hungy for someone to get an axe to the skull.

We now hit the one hour mark and thus far nothing scary or interesting has happened, and the movie has frankly not even tried. Cue attempted sex scene and jesus that guy kisses like a hungry dog licking spilled fish guts off a discarded boot. I know that you did not attend this slasher movie rundown to read the Judge Holden kiss rating hour but I gotta work with what I got at hand here. Oh and that ended with some mid booby and...oh are we finally getting a kill? I guess so, and the movie suddenly goes slow-mo just to ensure nobody of fragile disposition is scared too badly as he cuts her throat with a shard of broken mirror. The police chief is still hanging out at the school for no adequately explained reason. Cut to the windowless fan of fatass manlet elvis impersonator who after making passionate love to the 30 year old highschool student he seduced earlier announces he has to go take a shit which only makes her fall in love with him more.....ok we sure Weinstein didnt write this one too? (double checks wikipedia) ok no....moving on. Killer takes the opportunity to stalk the two as they then move three meters to the left to fuck in a slightly different locale before deciding to go back to the van immediately. Guess the director changed his mind on where he wanted the kill to happen.

Cue the killer who just yanks open the door to neckstab her with another shard of glass in the most prancy femmy fucking way imaginable. Fatass Manlet Elvis Impersonator sends him flying with a single punch and tries to drive away only for the killer to jump inside the fan as a rather amusing scene ensues of him driving in a circle for like three minutes as he and the killer flail at eachother, before the killer teleports out and....ok he just drove off a cliff and his van fucking exploded. Well that just happened I guess. Red Herring No.1 is still sweeping shit up, and has started drinking which I think is an excellent idea so I shall now pause writing to pour myself some buffalo trace. The revenge plot of Designated bitch girl still has not happened and she and Red Herrings No. 3/4/5 are just sorta hanging around. Oh I guess she is gonna get killed off now. Killer tries and fails multiple times to hit her with a fire axe as he chases her through the now randomly empty school despite the prom happening in the same dang building which showed it to be packed full of 30 year old students but whatever, we are getting some attempt at spooky here. Eventually...after what feels like 10 minutes of a chase scene she hides in a random car which is in the shop class and...wait no she loosely whacks him with a broom which sends him flying like five feet and the chase scene resumes. She eventually runs into a storeroom and hides until she sees a body, screams and runs into the killer again who finally plants an axe in her skull....offscreen.

10 Minutes left and oh Nonce Red Herring has been apprehended offscreen, thus resolving that non-existent subplot, allowing the police chief to shack up with Red Herring no.1 and after some implied offscreen unlubed sodomy and recripical blumpkin giving (ok i may be imagining things....I just want this shit to stop sucking) Mr Herring informs him that theres a killer on the loose, causing the police chief to lead him away for yet more assfucking in the cuck shed. Oh and I guess in these last few minutes Red Herrings no. 3/4/5 are gonna pull their scuffed carrie prom prank...which is just jumping Jamie Lee's boyfriend and stealing his prom crown. Anyway the killer sees the main red herring of the three wearing said crown from behind....I dont even fucking know at this point the movie has like 8 minutes left....and bonks him hard enough for his head to fall off and roll out into the crowd who all fucking cheese it....slowly....a light jog more than anything....leaving Jaimie Lee to rescue her boyfriend as the killer prances menacingly at them once again. 5 minutes left and in a brave moment of realism, the femmy ass killer is quickly overpowered and disarmed despite having an axe by an unarmed woman and a wimpy guy with concussion. The two excuses for men wrassle on the ground while Jamie Lee patiently waits for an opportunity to bonk the killer with the axe from the sidelines which she takes and realises its actually her brother...somehow. Killer stumbles away despite taking an axe to the brain and has flashbacks of the opening scene....including moments he was not even there for....and dies in front of the crowd as he whines about how he saw them kill his tard sister and....ok well thats the movie ended. Thank fuck for that.

Characters: Nielsen and Curtis do what they can with their feeble parts, which sadly aint much. Guess fatass manlet elvis impersonator in the windowless van had some charm to him, but otherwise the characters barely even existed

Scares: Fucking yawn. Zero tension despite multiple attempts to build it up and when the scares hit they hit with all the force of a wet herring. Fish. Fish fish. Fish fish fish fish fish. Scariest moment was probably the aformentioned liminal places shots of the school because fuck my ass this shit was not even slightly spooky.

Kills: Straight up pathetic. Two sloppy cut/stab throat deaths, one off screen axe death, and one mid tier on-screen decapitation. Best kill probably the random scene where fatass manlet elvis impersonator randomly drives off a cliff and explodes which atleast was slightly entertaining.

Final Verdict: It is better than the remake I ranted about before....somewhat....and thats about the only positive. This shit was a fucking joyless slog from start to finish and there was nothing of value beyond the blonde chick's ass flashing. I would not suggest it be watched for any reason whatsoever unless you really fuckin like that particular ass.
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Would I watch again?: Yeah no fucking way i'm watching this again. How on earth the remake managed to be substantially worse is a goddamn mystery in need of scientific study.

Well that was miserable....but then I saw precisely zero fucking recommendations for this movie while searching and only chose it due to my own personal demons with the remake so I got exactly what I fucking deserved. All that remains now is to finish my bourbon and prepare for tomorrow

For after the recurring fish motifs I have filled my rundown with I feel its only fitting that tomorrow I go swimming..... in A BAY OF BLOOD
 
I feel like I've just read the live blog of a 14-year-old girl that gets all of their horror knowledge from Bloody Disgusting.
Literally the only notable thing about the movie was the red herring spam so it was either find cheap amusement in this or go without any amusement whatsoever.

@Judge Holden I wish I had the patience to write reviews like that. If I really like a movie, I can go on at length, but if it was mediocre or complete trash, I'm likely not going beyond "shit sucked, boring as fuck."
Honestly after inflicting that BBC currentyear adaptation of Terry Pratchett's The Watch upon myself to judge it on behalf of the farms, I found the workable medium of just vomiting words while watching the movie on one computer screen and wagie-houring or doing admin on the other. Thankfully the next movie looks to actually be prettygud so I shouldnt suffer too much, only question is do I go with a dub or the original wopspeak
 
A Bay of Blood: Yeah yeah I know its technically a Giallo but I keep seeing it brought up in "inspirations for the slasher genre" conversation so I'm including it
I think it's fine to include giallos with slashers. I personally consider giallos and slashers the same genre for the most part, much to the offense of some giallo purists I've met in the past.
 
Bay of Blood is great. I can't wait for you to hate it.
Nah, I have a good feeling about this one. When rooting around for non-reviewer recommendations this one was hyped across the board unlike Prom Night which I never once saw get the slightest accolade

Anyway, the day in the cage of wage begins so may as well get right to it.

A BAY OF BLOOD

Premise:
Nice and simple murder mystery. An elderly aristocrat is brutally murdered, leading to everyone in the surrounding area seeking to take a piece of her real estate only for the killings to start ramping up. As mentioned before this movie comes with a pretty lofty reputation in slasher circles as something of an OG so I am genuinely looking forward to watching this now. Sadly I could not find a wopspeak version with english subtitles so awkward dub it is.

Execution: Starting out the music feels comfortably 60s, which I guess makes sense as this shit was released in 71. After some nice and music free establishing shots of the bay we check in with the previously mentioned aristocrat as she miserably wheels herself through her mansion. Cue someone jumping her with a noose and then kicking the wheelchair away from under her, her killer effortlessly posing her murder as a suicide, only for him to be suddenly be knifed to death in the dark.....ok yeah I am liking this movie already. Cut to hairy architect and his hot blonde mistress/secretary in bed rambling about some weirdass cryptid in some passive aggressive back and forth....and then some freaky ass fisherman biting into a raw squid like an animal and a general introduction to the rest of the cast including Squid Man's neighbour the local butterfly catcher, the married couple spying on the two, and a bunch of confusingly accented and indeterminately aged young people I shall now refer to as Eurotrash for convenience visiting the area including Mr Wet Blanket, French Chick, Wop Chad, and a kraut explicitly called "Weiner-Schnitzel Baby" who find a seemingly abandoned dance club by the shore only to be silently watched by someone nearby.....huh those 20 minutes have passed shockingly quickly.

Cut to the Local Witch reading an ominous sounding tarot, and I am actually kinda liking these blur in/out cuts the movie is using. Probably not groundbreaking by this movie but aint something I have seen much of before. Turns out she's the wife of Butterfly Man and they hate eachother and we get a nice scene of them talking shit about eachother as she melodramatically portents doom and he casually mocks her while fondling a dead beetle named ferdinand, and some exposition as to how they are in a dispute with a bunch other characters about the land around the bay. Eurotrash see a another seemingly empty house nearby they go snooping around....*checks wikipedia* ok this came out before Texas Chain Saw Massacre, just wanted to be sure. Meanwhile Kraut Chick strips off to swim in the bay as mystery creeper watches from the shore. Wop chad breaks in and immediately steals booze and a spear and unsubtly tries to get Mr Wet Blanket to go and rawdog Kraut Chick while he fucks the french chick, as said French chick explores the property which seems to be that of Hairy Architect from earlier. Between the lack of music, dark shots of the interior, and the prior shots of someone watching them from outside, I am enjoying the slow tension build.

Back with Kraut Chick in the bay she finds a floating corpse under a jetty and hightails it back to the derelict dance club the others left a couple scenes ago, she sees something offscreen inside that terrifies her into running towards the nearby house, only for someone to cut her throat from behind with a billhook. Meanwhile wet blanket is moping inside as Wop Chad and French Chick fuck in the next room, while the killer watches from outside. Hearing something wet blanket goes out....and gets his fucking face split in two with a billhook. So I guess I know where that kill in the OG Friday 13th came from now. The killer yanks the hook out his face and creeps inside, only to see the spear...ok yeah I think I know where this is going, and where that kill from Friday 13th part II came from....wait are they still fucking with the spear through them?! Anyway yeah so thats Eurotrash slaughtered and holy hell we already half way through the movie. That was straight up slasher shit just now and was a hell of a lot better executed than most subsequent slasher films would pull off a decade plus later.

Checking back in with the Local Witch after another tarot/glass of booze and she notices Butterfly Man is missing, and runs off to find him as the camera pans to a rather unnerving shot of a beetle with a needle through his abdomen, still squirming and alive before we move to Butterfly Man creeping round outside. Local Witch notices someone driving away in Eurotrash's car and goes back inside. Its night now and Squid Man is fishing on the shore, only to hear something in the underbrush which he shines his light on to, which cuts to the flashlight of married couple who drive away from their mobile home towards the bay, their arrival seen by hairy architect. Turns out they went to visit Butterfly Man and the wife is the stepdaughter of the elderly aristocrat, while the aristocrat's husband from the first scene was her father and they suspect she did not kill herself as it appeared....this is starting to feel like an old school murder mystery now, not that its a bad thing.

Butterfly Man talks shit about her father... who I guess had his body hidden since they all think he just went missing.... due to him having wanting to develop the area and thus destroy his beloved source of insects, and Local Witch suggests he killed his wife for her money, and the two make a veiled threat against married couple to not try and continue the development plans and mention an illegitimate son of the elderly aristocrat who is infact Squid Man, and the married couple set off to his shack....and after a brief argument the wife discovers the previously mentioned floating corpse on his rowboat. Somehow Squid Man manages to wriggle out of blame and suggests they head to Hairy Architect's house in which after her husband leaves to get their car, she discovers the corpses of Eurotrash, causing Hairy Architect to attack her with an axe, only to be stabbed in the leg to with a pair of scissors by her. Husband runs into Local Witch and tells her about the body who then heads towards the shack and then Hairy Architect's house, before finding his wife who orders him to kill Butterfly Man who witnessed her stabbing hairy architect seemingly to death. Noticing Local Witch she hunts her down and just straight up decapitates her with the axe in another shot we would later see in Friday 13th and...well thats an hour gone and I am still not bored. Also I would like to note how the movie actually knows how to not overuse the music in spooky moments which actually lets shit get nice and tense.

Husband is kinda down over killing a guy but wife is going full lady macbeth and the two now go back to the bay to kill Squid Man, who is currently redumping her father's body in the water. I guess Hairy Architect aint dead, and his hot blonde secretary from earlier finds him bleeding on the floor and telling her to find Squid Man. In his surprisingly cosy looking shack Squid Man reveals how he knows it was her and Hairy Architect who masterminded his mother's murder to get the real estate and kills her. These last 15 minutes of movie are heavily flashback focused and I guess Squid Man killed Eurotrash due to Kraut Chick seeing the body in the water. After the flashbacks are over squid man walks out of his shack and the scene ends......or not! we cut to him in the middle of being speared to death by husband so uh....yeah that was sudden. Husband gets jumped by Hairy Architect as they root through the main house but then dies fairly quickly so uh...kinda pointless to be honest. Anyway married couple seem to have come out on top and they prepare to ride off into the sunset....no wait nevermind their briefly mentioned children just fucking shoot them with a previously unseen shotgun in the literal last minute, thinking its a toy, and the film ends with the two kids running down to the bay assuming their parents are just playing dead. Huh.

Characters: Not exactly complex or multifaceted but enough of the cast has a decent level of personality/eccentricity to be enjoyable to watch, with the rest being just boring at worst. Best character has to be Butterfly Man.

Scares: Somewhat unpolished at times but when the movie deigns to set up tension it does so very well, with emphasis on quiet and music-free establishing shots and the camera quietly following characters in the dark with the scares themselves being competent but kinda lacking in refinement with regards to the use of sound or the speed and abruptness of execution, and whenever the movie shifts back away from being a proto-slasher it becomes as scary as any early 70s murder mystery...i.e. not very. Scariest moment was probably the lead up to and execution of the face-splitting scene

Kills: Downright impressive for the time, so much so that we would see a whole lot of them straight up copypasted by Friday 13th and its Sequel with decapitations, strangulations, spearings, and face-splitting all featured and pulled off for the most part extremely well. Best kill has to be the aforementioned face-splitting scene.

Final Verdict: I see now why this movie was so often labelled the OG slasher movie. Honestly I wouldn't totally qualify it as a slasher, as it's general plot line and the final act were more conventional of a standard murder mystery/suspense, but it was legitimately enjoyable seeing the overt inspirations for so many of the slashers to follow play out. As for the quality of the movie itself, yeah it was pretty dang good, albeit one which feels like a decent murder mystery/Giallo which had some admittedly superlative slasher scenes grafted on, as the scenes with Eurotrash frankly could have been excised entirely without impacting the story although obviously I am glad they were not. All in all a perfectly serviceable movie for the period which would have been unremarkable were it not for accidentally birthing the slasher genre, although after the slasher scenes are done the movie somewhat looses steam and the "shocking twist ending" is just fucking stupid and came out of absolutely nowhere. Still I never felt bored while watching it and am glad I did.

Would I watch again?: Actually yeah I probably would, if only to see just how many other nuggets of later influence I find.

Alright, that was enjoyable enough for me to consider watching another couple Giallos once this week is over. For now though, I think i'm gonna keep the italian theme and proceed to a somewhat less well regarded piece of wop horror.

Next stop...ABSURD
 
@Judge Holden did you not bother with the Friday the 13th remake since it looked like Jason's Greatest Hits with one of the Supernatural actors?
Pretty much yeah. Don't really want to waste time with remakes unless said remakes do shit substantially different and/or better enough for it to be effectively its own thing (i.e. The Thing). That it was tainted by association with Supernatural is incidental.

Anyway, on to a movie that's been on my radar since the bush administration

ABSURD

Premise: I have often heard about this movie as some kind of straight up Halloween ripoff which kinda sorta matches the premise of some mutant motherfucker escaping a mental hospital and going on a killing spree featuring babysitters as a priest chases him, but I will endeavour to judge on its own merits or lack thereof. Also kinda want to find out whether the movie itself holds any clue as to why it inspired the previously mentioned and exceedingly mid Neo Nazi Black Metal band beyond having a catchy name.

Execution: We start with the killer jogging through the forest being chased by the priest guy and eventually poking his tummy on some gate railings, intermixed with cuts of some crippled kid and her brother being bitched at by their mother, brother opens the door and I guess the killer teleported there and managed to have his guts ripped out earlier as he collapses.....a whole lot is happening and the typical 80s wop horror music aint let up once. Anyway he gets rushed to hospital for re-gutting surgery while a bunch of bikers harass a drunk hobo and the dubbing is just awful. For some reason the surgeon is freaking out and declares ITS ABSURD! to provide justification for the title because he is healing fast n shit I guess.

15 minutes in and I am having fond memories of other 80s wop horror schlock I have sat through as we head through poorly dubbed exposition scenes towards the inevitable next gory showpiece. Sadly there aint really any stand out character to hold my interest so I feel I am just running out the clock now as the movie washes over me. Nothing offensively obnoxious so far though so that's a plus. The killer kinda looks like 70s era Gary Ridgeway so I will just call him Ridgeway because "the killer" sounds so generic. Anyway Ridgeway wakes up and sees the priest from earlier so he starts freaking out as the priest gets led away by the cops. Ridgeway wakes up and driller killers a nurse while the priest is interrogated and escapes.

According to the doctor and the priest Ridgeway has a Yakubian big brain and can regenerate dead cells which is why he is a killer, also the priest is a scientist and stuff. Ok I guess a half hour is gone now. Ridgeway creeps around a derelict building for a bit as unfitting wannabe goblin music plays, before finding a janitor and a conveniently placed meat cleaver and closing in for the...wait never mind the janitor just dodged and parkoured over to his coat to get his gat, shooting Ridgeway a bunch of times without effect as Science Priest said earlier you need to destroy his brain to kill him.... so that's probably why this movie was listed as one of the Zombi 2 sequels. Anyway Ridgeway catches up to him and forces him head first through a table saw while Ridgeway curms in his pants from the looks of that smile.
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After ridgeway strangles a random biker we check in again with the family from the first scene....who despite how the initial scene was shot to make it look like they lived in an apartment actually live in a fucking mansion I guess. The father ran Ridgeway over on the way there but he doesnt mention it again. Apparently the family are waiting for a nurse to arrive while the parents fuck off to a rich person sportsball-watching event, only the nurse is currently being chased through woods by the soundtrack until she runs into the hobo from earlier and....ok I guess that scene is over now. We hit the halfway mark of the movie and shit is still boring but tolerable as Ridgeway makes his way to the mansion. Annoying dubbed kids act like annoying dubbed kids as the dog senses something near the door, causing the babysitter to look outside and get a pickaxe to the skull which causes her to stand still a few seconds looking somewhat upset. Shortly afterwards the nurse arrives, and cut to rich people eating spaghetti.

We hit the one hour mark and it still kinda feels like nothing has happened, is happening, or will happen. Annoying kid A sees ridgeway in the kitchen and tells the nurse, meanwhile the mother has been randomly staring at the house from nearby. Ridgeway cuts the power as the soundtrack begins to be downright obnoxious, and the nurse discovers the babysitter corpse when turning it back on which causes her to send annoying kid for help. Worth noting that some of the shots of her being stalked through the house could have had some decent claustrophobic tension if they turned off that fucking music for a moment. Ridgeway tries to break into the cripple's room only for the annoying kid to come back and distract him and jesus fucking christ I am officially done with the music now. Ridgeway still catches the nurse and uses the opportunity to Anne Frank her headfirst into the oven as the annoying kid demands the cripple un-cripple herself to let him in her saferoom in a scene which lasts entirely too fucking long. Kid re-escapes and the now extra crispy nurse shrugs off her head being literally cooked to stab the killer with some scissors only to then get killed. Well that was a phenomenally redundant series of events.

Cripple manages to un-cripple herself in time for Ridgeway to break into her room, stabbing him in the eyes with those spiky drawing things, causing him to somehow manage to overreact to his eyes being stabbed out, starting an unintentionally amusing chase scene of him doing his blind man act running after the cripple as she cripples through the house and....eyy less than ten minutes left. I guess when your movie has so little fucking substance its easy to just glide through it without even noticing. Kid runs into the priest who randomly grabs his head....nah too easy a joke. Ridgeway strangles the priest to death only for cripple to cut his head off with a medieval battleaxe that was randomly lying around and shows it to the cops who arrive outside. End of movie.

Characters: As one note as they come. Best character was probably the priest because his accent was hilarious.

Scares: Yeah this movie just isn't scary. No tension. No atmosphere. No build-up. No execution. Just characters meandering into kills while Ridgeway is shown in plain detail the whole time. Scariest scene was probably Ridgeway's previously shown coom face

Kills: Eh.....gory and varied but unfortunately they just feel badly executed without any impact. Best kill probably the oven death.....but best is relative here.

Final Verdict: Yeah this was pretty fuckin bad, as if that were ever in question. Just another of a dime a dozen uninteresting wop horror schlock pieces of the era. I will say its not a straight Halloween ripoff, though it does lift a few elements here or there, and it was an easier watch than Prom Night but that's about the only positive comments I can make.

Would I watch again?: Not under any reasonable circumstance. I wont throw out tired hyperbole or comparisons here, this movie was just a waste of fuckin time to watch and a waste of fuckin time to make.

Ok so now I have crossed out the two worst movies on the list, now I can chill out a bit safe in the knowledge that I should have nothing but classic slasher goodness now.

Tomorrow I watch THE PROWLER
 
Pretty much yeah. Don't really want to waste time with remakes unless said remakes do shit substantially different and/or better enough for it to be effectively its own thing (i.e. The Thing). That it was tainted by association with Supernatural is incidental.

Anyway, on to a movie that's been on my radar since the bush administration

ABSURD

Premise:
I have often heard about this movie as some kind of straight up Halloween ripoff which kinda sorta matches the premise of some mutant motherfucker escaping a mental hospital and going on a killing spree featuring babysitters as a priest chases him, but I will endeavour to judge on its own merits or lack thereof. Also kinda want to find out whether the movie itself holds any clue as to why it inspired the previously mentioned and exceedingly mid Neo Nazi Black Metal band beyond having a catchy name.

Execution: We start with the killer jogging through the forest being chased by the priest guy and eventually poking his tummy on some gate railings, intermixed with cuts of some crippled kid and her brother being bitched at by their mother, brother opens the door and I guess the killer teleported there and managed to have his guts ripped out earlier as he collapses.....a whole lot is happening and the typical 80s wop horror music aint let up once. Anyway he gets rushed to hospital for re-gutting surgery while a bunch of bikers harass a drunk hobo and the dubbing is just awful. For some reason the surgeon is freaking out and declares ITS ABSURD! to provide justification for the title because he is healing fast n shit I guess.

15 minutes in and I am having fond memories of other 80s wop horror schlock I have sat through as we head through poorly dubbed exposition scenes towards the inevitable next gory showpiece. Sadly there aint really any stand out character to hold my interest so I feel I am just running out the clock now as the movie washes over me. Nothing offensively obnoxious so far though so that's a plus. The killer kinda looks like 70s era Gary Ridgeway so I will just call him Ridgeway because "the killer" sounds so generic. Anyway Ridgeway wakes up and sees the priest from earlier so he starts freaking out as the priest gets led away by the cops. Ridgeway wakes up and driller killers a nurse while the priest is interrogated and escapes.

According to the doctor and the priest Ridgeway has a Yakubian big brain and can regenerate dead cells which is why he is a killer, also the priest is a scientist and stuff. Ok I guess a half hour is gone now. Ridgeway creeps around a derelict building for a bit as unfitting wannabe goblin music plays, before finding a janitor and a conveniently placed meat cleaver and closing in for the...wait never mind the janitor just dodged and parkoured over to his coat to get his gat, shooting Ridgeway a bunch of times without effect as Science Priest said earlier you need to destroy his brain to kill him.... so that's probably why this movie was listed as one of the Zombi 2 sequels. Anyway Ridgeway catches up to him and forces him head first through a table saw while Ridgeway curms in his pants from the looks of that smile.
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After ridgeway strangles a random biker we check in again with the family from the first scene....who despite how the initial scene was shot to make it look like they lived in an apartment actually live in a fucking mansion I guess. The father ran Ridgeway over on the way there but he doesnt mention it again. Apparently the family are waiting for a nurse to arrive while the parents fuck off to a rich person sportsball-watching event, only the nurse is currently being chased through woods by the soundtrack until she runs into the hobo from earlier and....ok I guess that scene is over now. We hit the halfway mark of the movie and shit is still boring but tolerable as Ridgeway makes his way to the mansion. Annoying dubbed kids act like annoying dubbed kids as the dog senses something near the door, causing the babysitter to look outside and get a pickaxe to the skull which causes her to stand still a few seconds looking somewhat upset. Shortly afterwards the nurse arrives, and cut to rich people eating spaghetti.

We hit the one hour mark and it still kinda feels like nothing has happened, is happening, or will happen. Annoying kid A sees ridgeway in the kitchen and tells the nurse, meanwhile the mother has been randomly staring at the house from nearby. Ridgeway cuts the power as the soundtrack begins to be downright obnoxious, and the nurse discovers the babysitter corpse when turning it back on which causes her to send annoying kid for help. Worth noting that some of the shots of her being stalked through the house could have had some decent claustrophobic tension if they turned off that fucking music for a moment. Ridgeway tries to break into the cripple's room only for the annoying kid to come back and distract him and jesus fucking christ I am officially done with the music now. Ridgeway still catches the nurse and uses the opportunity to Anne Frank her headfirst into the oven as the annoying kid demands the cripple un-cripple herself to let him in her saferoom in a scene which lasts entirely too fucking long. Kid re-escapes and the now extra crispy nurse shrugs off her head being literally cooked to stab the killer with some scissors only to then get killed. Well that was a phenomenally redundant series of events.

Cripple manages to un-cripple herself in time for Ridgeway to break into her room, stabbing him in the eyes with those spiky drawing things, causing him to somehow manage to overreact to his eyes being stabbed out, starting an unintentionally amusing chase scene of him doing his blind man act running after the cripple as she cripples through the house and....eyy less than ten minutes left. I guess when your movie has so little fucking substance its easy to just glide through it without even noticing. Kid runs into the priest who randomly grabs his head....nah too easy a joke. Ridgeway strangles the priest to death only for cripple to cut his head off with a medieval battleaxe that was randomly lying around and shows it to the cops who arrive outside. End of movie.

Characters: As one note as they come. Best character was probably the priest because his accent was hilarious.

Scares: Yeah this movie just isn't scary. No tension. No atmosphere. No build-up. No execution. Just characters meandering into kills while Ridgeway is shown in plain detail the whole time. Scariest scene was probably Ridgeway's previously shown coom face

Kills: Eh.....gory and varied but unfortunately they just feel badly executed without any impact. Best kill probably the oven death.....but best is relative here.

Final Verdict: Yeah this was pretty fuckin bad, as if that were ever in question. Just another of a dime a dozen uninteresting wop horror schlock pieces of the era. I will say its not a straight Halloween ripoff, though it does lift a few elements here or there, and it was an easier watch than Prom Night but that's about the only positive comments I can make.

Would I watch again?: Not under any reasonable circumstance. I wont throw out tired hyperbole or comparisons here, this movie was just a waste of fuckin time to watch and a waste of fuckin time to make.

Ok so now I have crossed out the two worst movies on the list, now I can chill out a bit safe in the knowledge that I should have nothing but classic slasher goodness now.

Tomorrow I watch THE PROWLER
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I know you mentioned you liked it but I just couldn't find anything enjoyable or interesting in the movie. The story and characters were barely even existent, the music and cinematography were disappointing at best, there were precisely zero competently executed scares, and the kills just fell flat for me. Again it could be that all the crappy italian horror movies I saw in the early 10s made this feel more generic, and I was never really bored or annoyed by the movie which is why I ranked it higher than prom night, but still it just didn't work for me.

It's been a long time since I watched this, but I remember it being pretty awesome, and the killer had a cool look that I don't think anyone's tried to replicate, really.
Yeah, the military getup is an interesting choice and i have heard pretty much nothing but good things about the movie so unironically looking forward to watching it tomorrow
 
It's been a long time since I watched this, but I remember it being pretty awesome, and the killer had a cool look that I don't think anyone's tried to replicate, really.
I watched Prowler for the first time (I think?) the other day. Tom Savini pulled a lot of weight for it. If what I saw was the theatrical cut, I'm surprised the MPAA didn't shred it to bits.
 
Yeah this was pretty fuckin bad, as if that were ever in question. Just another of a dime a dozen uninteresting wop horror schlock pieces of the era. I will say its not a straight Halloween ripoff, though it does lift a few elements here or there, and it was an easier watch than Prom Night but that's about the only positive comments I can make.
I enjoy Absurd maybe as a guilty pleasure but I can agree it's not one of Joe D'Amado's best movies. I highly suggest Antropophagus AKA Grim Reaper from D'Amado if you haven't gotten to that one yet.
 
I enjoy Absurd maybe as a guilty pleasure but I can agree it's not one of Joe D'Amado's best movies. I highly suggest Antropophagus AKA Grim Reaper from D'Amado if you haven't gotten to that one yet.
Actually I have watched it semi recently and thought it was a hell of a lot better than Absurd due largely to setting, atmosphere, and kills.

And as the site is finally not nigging out on me I can finally begin my first ever watch of THE PROWLER

Premise:
Shortly after Dubya Dubya 2 wraps up, a freshly returned soldier kills the skank who cheated on him while he was off fighting along with the limp dick she cheated on him with. Decades later and the killer seemingly returns to prey on the next generation of college kids.

Execution: A little surprised by the post WW2 stock footage opener but if it works it works, with the narrator casually introducing the premise of psych-fucked veterans and skanks who abandoned them. Cut to the soon to be perforated Cheating Ho and her new sidepiece at a college graduation dance and their characterisation as dumb broad and supercilious asshole is quickly and effectively taken care of. Driving to an empty gazebo to engage in some segregation era rawdogging, the music turns tense as we see someone in combat fatigues creep up on them before planting a pitchfork through both of them and laying down a rose. Cut to 1980 and another graduation dance is being planned and we meet our seeming protagonists, Deputy 80s and Butterface Journalist (srsly she looks like a proto amy schumer), which we are told is the first one since the previous murdery one, and that father of cheating ho has enough sway in the community to have blocked it happening till now. Honestly i'm kinda getting a Jaws vibe from the way its shot and paced thus far with the opening scene followed by small town cop routine, and we are introduced with reasonable subtlety to a couple of suspects for who the killer might be including Asshole Shopkeeper, Sheriff Gone-Fishing, and some unknown stabby guy who has apparently hijacked a car and might be heading to town.

As we get our legally mandated yet surprisingly non-nude sorority scenes as we see a shot of the Prowler putting on his Prowlin gear at the same time the side character skanks are putting on their skankin gear before heading off for the night, with one lingering behind in the shower. As Butterface heads out she thinks she hears someone lurking near the sorority house...ok 20 minute mark....before heading out with the homies. The inevitable kill is a little too overtly communicated in how its shot and with the music but we are given fakeout with the movie making it look like they are going for an overt psycho ripoff kill, only for it to be shower chick's boyfriend impatient for her to finish. Boyfriend goes to strip off himself, only to get a bayonet through his skull in a gratuitous but well earned kill in which we get to see Savini work his magic to make a simple skull stab look kinda freaky. Now we get our psycho ripoff scene, delivered again via pitchfork which again is slow and bloody rather than overtly scary but a good kill is a good kill.

Cut to the graduation dance and Butterface is seething over Deputy Boyfriend dancing with Rival Chick while trying to make his way over to her while a cheerful Old Feller casually introduces himself as another suspect as he eyeballs the college chicks. Butterface has drink spilled on her by Rival Chick and goes back to the now somewhat body filled sorority house not noticing the carnage due to a lack of peripheral vision as the killer casually linkers in her bathroom to plant another rose, however once she is out she hears him moving upstairs and looking up she and the audience get the first full view of the killer's getup which as mentioned before in the thread is pretty dang good and pretty dang unique. Butterface cheeses it as we hit the 30 minute mark, being randomly ambushed and grabbed by the creepy Wheelchair Cripple mentioned earlier as the father of Cheating Ho, before finding Deputy Boyfriend who goes to investigate while she hides in his car, but when he finds nothing beyond boot tracks and wheelchair marks (due to the killin room being locked now) they go to visit Wheelchair Cripple to figure out why he was there, the killer continuing to stalk them (as shown by kinda unnecessary shots of him paired with musical stings).

Finding his cripple abode seemingly empty, Butterface hones in on photos of the long deceased Cheating Ho from the first scene along with an eldritch lookin photo album, containing a dried rose. Deputy boyfriend explores the house, finding ever spookier rooms as the killer silently follows him. Meeting back up downstairs Butterface exposits about the killing from the first scene out of nowhere, only to hastily justify by saying this was in the article Butterface mentioned writing earlier and randomly declares her killer might be the guy she saw chasing her (note she thus far has no idea he is a killer, just he wears a costume and chased her in the sorority house) while Deputy Boyfriend says its probably one of the previous suspects introduced into the narrative.

Realising its the halfway point of the movie they head back to the dance and I just realised how quickly they started this event in the movie given how most other movies have this be the climax. Anyway half those there are shitfaced or throwing up due to a previously foreshadowed spiking of the punch as Butterface and Deputy Boyfriend find unknown-yet-kinda-hot Cougar of unstated authority to close the beaches curfew the drunk college kids in the dance building, as Rival Chick heads outside to plot her next act of vile skankery....which turns out to be swimming. Meanwhile her Drunk BF gets arrested by Deputy Boyfriend at the urging of a now not so cheerful Old Feller for trying to leave. Rival chick climbs out the pool only to get a prowler sized combat boot to the face, almost knocking her out before the prowler jumps in too (offscreen) and slowly saws through her throat with the bayonet in an honestly kinda freaky way as we get some nice underwater shots of blood filling the swimming pool. Savini sure earned his Colombian finest this movie.

Hearing from Fugly Nurd couple that Rival Chick is out swimming, Mrs Cougar goes out to find her only to see the blood in the water, causing her to panic and flee right into the arms of the Prowler who give her a complimentary tracheotomy via his trusty bayonet. Fugly Nurd couple head downstairs to the Talmudic Sex Basement as Drunk BF is taken to the empty police station (empty due to Sheriff Gone-Fishing having gone fishing). We see a first person shot of someone watching the Fugly Nurd Couple go at eachother on a stained mattress, and it turns out to be Old Feller whose prior talk of loving college girls turns out to have been no idle boast, as the scene mercifully cuts before he whips his scabies covered pecker out.

Back at the police station Deputy Boyfriend is harangued by an also drunk Asshole Shopkeeper who decides he is gonna be the Crazy Ralph of the movie and portent doom due to them deciding to hold another graduation dance as well as bitch about college kids getting deep dicked in the cemetery, which our two leads go to investigate. Finding it empty, the two discover that the grave of Cheating Ho has been dug up, and after Butterface gets jumped by another crusty old asshole from earlier who I shall now refer to as Baldy before said crusty old asshole teleports out of the movie, the two open the now exposed coffin and find it contains the body of Rival Chick. Imma say right now this does not even remotely feel like an hour has gone by which is a good thing.

Realising he is out of his depth, Deputy Boyfriend tries to call Sheriff Gone-Fishing, only for random fatass at the fishing locale to pointlessly be an asshole and refuse to help. As they wait for state police to arrive they decide to go back to Wheelchair Cripple's spooky house for some reason, and while looking around again the power shuts off, giving the Prowler the chance to jump Deputy Boyfriend and...not kill him. Butterface notices a fresh rose has now been put on top of the photo album she was going through earlier, and noticing a gold locket hanging from inside the fire place she pulls it down only for Cheating Ho's disinterred skeleton to fall down, causing her to rather understandably freak out and run out the room right into the Prowler who kicks off our climactic chase scene since he locked her in the house and...holy hell we got less than 15 minutes left.

We get some nice spoopy shots of the killer hunting her through the rooms and randomly stabbing shit with his pitchfork to find where she might be hiding, and as the chase ends and shes about to get shanked Baldy randomly teleports back into the movie with a shotgun and shoots him down, only for the killer to pull out his own shotgun and shoot him right the fuck back down and start wrasslin with Butterface who managed to get the gun out his hands after stabbing him. Pulling off his mask we finally find out his identity and its.....Sheriff Gone-Fishing. A.k.a. the only old guy in the movie who was not hilariously out of shape. Guess that explains why he didnt kill Deputy Boyfriend. Anyway while wrasslin for the gun, Sheriff Prowler gets his hand on the trigger and pulls it, blowing his own head apart in a gloriously gory scene

Next day Butterface is driven back to her dorm by Deputy Boyfriend....kinda wondering what happened to Wheelchair Cripple and the Dance party now to be honest, they all just seemed to have vanished from the narrative. What has not vanished however are the two corpses left in the dorm's shower, which Butterface discovers and while freaking out she randomly hallucinates the guy with a bayonet in his skull coming back to life and grabbing her as the movie ends to rather unfittingly peaceful music.

Characters: Nothing too complex but likable enough (aside from overtly asshole characters who are asshole enough), although we only really have two characters of significance in the movie whose acting is a touch wooden

Scares: While somewhat on the nose with the shooting and music, the movie managed to execute very nice tension during scary scenes without screwing up their climaxes. Best scare was the killer stalking butterface in the sorority house due to how the tension had been well built up to by this point and how it was allowed to percolate until we finally see him

Kills: Very well executed and bloody as you'd want a Savini slasher to be, and while a teeny bit Pitchfork heavy (I know this is a petty gripe and its a fine slasher weapon, but couldnt they have gone with a more overt piece of military equipment as the primary weapon of the killer? I dunno maybe an entrenchment tool) we see a diverse array of deaths that tend towards slow and nasty. Best kill is probably the bayonet to the skull and the guy's eyes rolling up into his head as he slowly dies, very closely followed by the head exploding scene.

Final Verdict: A genuinely great slasher movie in execution, but one held back by a run of the mill story that frankly has far too much in terms of characters to plot threads to scenes to setting without real (or any) payoff which wastes time that could have been spent better elsewhere. The killer's motives are never really explained, and honestly the movie could have stood to be a half hour to flesh out all the random shit that never got paid off. That being said it was still a genuinely enjoyable slasher, possibly one of the better ones I have ever seen. The music is fine and string heavy, and works very well with the movie. We get persistent tension strings for much of the runtime which works to keep the level of tension during mundane scenes without being obnoxious.

Would I Watch Again?: Absolutely, the movie was a great slasher movie even if the ending was kind of a mess and there was a general sense of too much stuffing the sausage casing. Honestly I am surprised there has not been a remake, and I would argue this movie could actually do with one (obviously well made by someone who gives a shit and has some level of talent) due to how much untapped potential there was.

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