Tobacco appreciation thread - Winners never quit, and quitters never win

[ChaosReignsOnSomeSaturday]

My entire life I've always heard how evil and money grubbing big tobacco is especially after watching that movie Thank You For Smoking, very decent flick, which actually prompted me to want to work for them. Strangely though it's seemingly impossible to find jobs with them no matter how I searched.

Regardless compared to other corporations I feel tobacco companies are on the low end of "evil." Between Marlboro and Alphabet I think the tech conglomerate does more harm that some assholes selling cigarettes to Filipino high school kids.

 

[Hantavirus]

Tobacco companies back in the day used to be more obviously evil--they knew their cigarettes were way worse than traditional forms of tobacco, but because they were more profitable, they tried their damnedest to get everyone to switch, and largely succeeded. Every difference between a cigar and a cigarette is intentional, and was done to increase profit margins (paper wrappers, nasty pesticides, herbicides, and fertilizers, cheaper and more processed tobacco) or addiction potential (encouraging smokers to inhale, holes in filters that cause smokers to inhale deeper, menthol to cool the throat, additives to potentiate nicotine, chemically changing nicotine to make it more potent). Most of these changes also made cigarettes more dangerous, and Big Tobacco covered it up for decades (9 out of 10 doctors recommend Camel). Big Tobacco consistently supports stricter regulation of tobacco to squeeze out smaller players, to the point we're at today, where just a handful of companies control the vast majority of worldwide tobacco products. They also actively resisted attempts to upset this status quo, most recently in their early attempts to smear e-cigarettes as more dangerous than smoking before embracing the new wave and buying out several vape and nicotine pouch pioneers.

Nowadays, they have to play this retarded game where they pretend every new product is for smoking cessation only and not intended to hook new users. There is a common sentiment that tobacco would never be allowed if it was discovered today, and I think there is some truth to that. Just look at the hysteria around things like kava, kratom, and salvia divinorum. Everybody accepts that Big Ag is allowed to influence consumer food choices and Big Pharma is allowed to bribe doctors to push drugs, but Big Tobacco is forced to play make believe that they are totally against smoking and are actually in the business to end smoking and put themselves out of business.

I definitely agree that a company that sells an addictive and harmful plant that everybody knows is addictive and harmful but still want it is much less evil than our globohomo technocratic overlords. I just want to light up in peace without being spied on and having my data sold like a commodity

 

[Clem Fandango]

Indeed. Always good fun to peel away from a social gathering with two or three other smokers for ten minutes and have a good conversation. Not sure why it happens that way, but it just does.

This is true, I've experienced it many times.

And then again on the flipside, sometimes it's a good excuse to get five minutes to yourself. Especially if you have kids, just having a reason to nip outside (pro tip: leave your phone inside) and have some peace is pretty great. I always come back in with my next course of action more clear in my mind.

Also, you can't beat smoking for just some pure moody atmosphere on occasion. Enjoying a cig on a balcony on a rainy Tokyo night, watching trains zip past under the scrolling neon advertising signs. It gives a weird feeling of melancholy that I get strangely nostalgic for sometimes.

 

[Cats]

tebacker

 

[DSP for president 2032]

I like marlboro, flip top box.

I get to working on my car and forget where I am... what time it is... I even forget to eat!

 

[Aljam]

I need a replicator

 

[Hantavirus]

I get to working on my car and forget where I am... what time it is... I even forget to eat!

You don't forget to smoke, though, do you?

 

[DSP for president 2032]

You don't forget to smoke, though, do you?

I always smoke when I work!

 

[Hantavirus]

We did it, Reddit!

 

[The Feline Solution]

My vape broke recently and while waiting for the replacement to arrive i went back to smoking roll-ups. It was pure fucking bliss for three days. Could've done without my place stinking like shit afterwards, though.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

hookah tobacco in a bong is kinda cool

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

So I was out of town recently and went to get a menthol vape since I left my pack at home. The black clerk explained to me there was now a menthol ban in effect in that city and that it was bullshit. Never has there been a greater moment of interracial solidarity in my life.

 

[bigasscigar]

Not a regular tobacco user, but i find it nice to enjoy once in a while. Especially when Im out in the woods or on the water. Mostly chew Levi Garret but lately Ive been trying to find international cigarettes to try. Chinese, Jap, and Indonesians are easy, but Id like to try some Euro brands.

 

[TiggerNits]

I started my morning at 530am, cleaned the kitchen, then made a cup of coffee on the stove, grabbed a Deadwood Tobacco Co. Fat Bottom Betty and went outside where I made a small fire in my fire, drank my coffee, smoked my cigar and listened to college football highlights and debate while I watched my dog's chase birds.


Hell yeah

 

[Hantavirus]

hookah tobacco in a bong is kinda cool

That actually doesn't sound bad. I haven't smoked hookah in many years, but it's pretty much the same idea as a bong, just more complicated to set up and more difficult to keep it going and burning nicely.

So I was out of town recently and went to get a menthol vape since I left my pack at home. The black clerk explained to me there was now a menthol ban in effect in that city and that it was bullshit. Never has there been a greater moment of interracial solidarity in my life.

Flavor bans are retarded. I remember when the menthol bans first started coming out, tobacco advocates tried playing the racism card, but it didn't stick. I guess you're only allowed to cry racism when your cause is Authorized

Not a regular tobacco user, but i find it nice to enjoy once in a while. Especially when Im out in the woods or on the water. Mostly chew Levi Garret but lately Ive been trying to find international cigarettes to try. Chinese, Jap, and Indonesians are easy, but Id like to try some Euro brands.

Oh man, I had a phase where I tried all kinds of Russian ciggies. They have had Western cigarettes since 1990, but local branding is often nostalgic for the Soviet Union: common smokes are Laika (the space dog), Soyuz, and my personal favorite, Belomorkanal.

Those ones are the shape and size of a regular cigarette, but are mostly just an empty cardboard tube. Only a section about the size of a standard filter actually has tobacco, and it's really strong stuff--like a small hit of dokha or an entire cigarette in each puff. I guess they were made that way so you could hold them with heavy winter gloves, and so your smoke break would be shorter, but you would still get a serious hit of that Vitamin N.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

my personal favorite, Belomorkanal.

I have been trying to get some of these for years. They sound strong and gnarly as hell, like an unfiltered Gauloises that failed QC.

Unfiltered Camels were my smoke during college.

Flavor bans are retarded. I remember when the menthol bans first started coming out, tobacco advocates tried playing the racism card, but it didn't stick. I guess you're only allowed to cry racism when your cause is Authorized

It's horseshit too, when I started smoking it wasn't menthol. Only got turned onto it by some of the black people I worked with in college but was sold after that. Salems are spectacular.

F it, I'm getting a pack of Camels and a pack of Salems now.

 

[Hantavirus]

I can see how some would find Belomorkanals unappetizing, especially if the strongest smoke they have had is a Lucky Strike or American Spirit Black. I did not dislike the flavor too much, but I prefer a more Middle Eastern rustica flavor in my N-bombs--occasionally I will be in the mood for a fat hit of nicotine, and dokha does that nicely. Papirosas are a little much for a daily smoke imo, and apparently even Russians agree, because Belomorkanal is the only papirosa I know of that is still made.

As far as getting them, finding uncommon tobacco products is a lot harder now with the PACT Act, doubly so for cigarettes. They are available by the carton online, but if you only want a pack to try, your best bet is persuading a tobacco shop to order one for you or finding a friend in Eastern Europe. Belomors are made and sold in many post-Soviet states, not just Russia, so sanctions are less of a problem.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

That actually doesn't sound bad. I haven't smoked hookah in many years, but it's pretty much the same idea as a bong, just more complicated to set up and more difficult to keep it going and burning nicely.


Flavor bans are retarded. I remember when the menthol bans first started coming out, tobacco advocates tried playing the racism card, but it didn't stick. I guess you're only allowed to cry racism when your cause is Authorized


Oh man, I had a phase where I tried all kinds of Russian ciggies. They have had Western cigarettes since 1990, but local branding is often nostalgic for the Soviet Union: common smokes are Laika (the space dog), Soyuz, and my personal favorite, Belomorkanal.

Those ones are the shape and size of a regular cigarette, but are mostly just an empty cardboard tube. Only a section about the size of a standard filter actually has tobacco, and it's really strong stuff--like a small hit of dokha or an entire cigarette in each puff. I guess they were made that way so you could hold them with heavy winter gloves, and so your smoke break would be shorter, but you would still get a serious hit of that Vitamin N.

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Yeah I inherited a still hookah set from a buddy who lost interest, and if you're not a few people it isn't so useful, and you NEVER look as cool as the gaggle of old islams out behind the halal joint.
I suspect it wasted some because I'd clear it out a lot after each hit, but it was comfy af this time I was doing it out on my front porch one evening with a cam of Watchmen and a bunch of frogs bouncing around

 

[Hantavirus]

Snus bros, what are we lipping? We've had a vote for General already. My favorite at the moment is Grov, but since it's also Swedish Match, I am trying to find something like it. It's not as salty or chocolatey like General, and has a hint of salmiak (licorice), while not hiding its relatively bold tobacco flavor.

I'll be honest--I have barely done any snus since I picked up nasal snuff, but snoofing a pinch every fifteen minutes and the low-level constant runny nose gets a little annoying. Any suggestions for a balanced snus that can tempt me away from snorting my tobacco? Or can I never go back now that I have discovered snuff? I really like Dholakia Sparrow, too bad they are dropping the tobacco business. Time to buy a kilogram or two...

 

[DankSmoker]

Snus bros, what are we lipping? We've had a vote for General already. My favorite at the moment is Grov, but since it's also Swedish Match, I am trying to find something like it. It's not as salty or chocolatey like General, and has a hint of salmiak (licorice), while not hiding its relatively bold tobacco flavor.

I'll be honest--I have barely done any snus since I picked up nasal snuff, but snoofing a pinch every fifteen minutes and the low-level constant runny nose gets a little annoying. Any suggestions for a balanced snus that can tempt me away from snorting my tobacco? Or can I never go back now that I have discovered snuff? I really like Dholakia Sparrow, too bad they are dropping the tobacco business. Time to buy a kilogram or two...

Is snus paying you? You've brought it up damn near every post.