Unpopular Opinions about Video Games

[The Ugly One]

I understand that, i'm not disputing that and you're absolutely right. Wow isn't even the best example when games like league of legends and counter strike exist. In the world of pc gaming wow has become kind of a niche game, not one of the big titles that most people played at some point.

WoW made more money last year than any Steam Game with the exception of Baldur's Gate III. It's not an obscure, niche game that nobody except collectors of vintage obscuranta have heard of. LoL and CS aren't subscription-based games, and therefore would not have made sense for me to mention as examples of PC gamers paying monthly fees for their games.

However getting ripped off for online play is on a whole different level, because you don't even have a choice. A year of playstation is 152 euro, which is more than i spent in microtransactions in my whole life.

152 euros is going out to eat about three times. Even niggers can afford Xbox Live.

 

[Pissmaster]

152 euros is going out to eat about three times. Even niggers can afford Xbox Live.

>152 euros is equivalent to $170



If I had to increase my gaming budget by $170 yearly to pay a fuck you tax, I'd rather just put it towards even more storage. Yet another reason why I decided to just go all PC all the time.

 

[Gondolindrim]

The best thing the Jedi Survivor series could do right now is break canon and have Cal kill Vader or something. Anything less would be ending the story with a wet fart like every other Disney Wars property.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I cannot believe that I am saying this, but I really doubt women or Jews have anything to do with live service gacha mechanics, especially the ones involving waifus.

I'm not much of a jew sperg, but if they really want you in pods then selling you waifu jpegs so you don't talk to women would probably help with that.

 

[Am I Very Wrong]

WoW made more money last year than any Steam Game with the exception of Baldur's Gate III. It's not an obscure, niche game that nobody except collectors of vintage obscuranta have heard of. LoL and CS aren't subscription-based games, and therefore would not have made sense for me to mention as examples of PC gamers paying monthly fees for their games.



152 euros is going out to eat about three times. Even niggers can afford Xbox Live.

You talk about wow as if it was still 2011-2012. How much money it makes, especially with their weird economy and specific playerbase doesn't matter, all i wanted to say is world of warcraft players do not represent the average pc gamer very well these days. It's kind of a moot point because there are other subscription based games i forgot which have more players than wow these days and in the end subscriptions these days are peanuts compared to microtransactions.
However, since i play on pc and i don't play world of warcraft i won't have to pay for any subscription at all, like most people i know (nevermind that those same people spend in other ways).

152 euro is more than i spent on games this year and it's not like i missed out on anything. Had i been on console...
Those 152 euros a year become the price of a very decent gaming pc in the span of a generation, so it's hard to justify buying a console if you care about videogames. who's supposed to buy them other than rich casual gamers?

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

EA/Bioware literally said they wanted Call of Duty's audience when they made ME2 and ME3, and Obsidian added iron sights from CoD to FNV when some people noticed they weren't in FO3.

As though iron sights are some unique thing to CoD.

 

[Scarthew]

As though iron sights are some unique thing to CoD.

At the time it kinda was. Yeah games had it before like medal of honor but the vast majority of shooters before CoD's popularity were just point and click, after CoD every game became point and click and click. They also popularized hit markers on the hud as well as that bullshit "+200" shit that pops up right in front of your crosshair rather than being a small kill feed in the corner. While Ironsights made sense for consoles allowing the player to tell the game when it wants the aim assist to turn on while also helping player see the screen better since they'll be sitting further away, its a nuisance for pc that we've never recovered from. The "memes" of CoD have forever ruined shooters.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

152 euros is going out to eat about three times. Even niggers can afford Xbox Live.

It's not a matter of ability, it's a matter of willingness. I don't spend like a nigger so I don't have to live like a nigger.

Unpopular opinion: Silent Hill 3 is really not a very good game. Silent Hill 2 had a lot of labyrinthine corridors full of doors with broken locks, but for the most part it rewarded the player with progress (and more insight into the plot) just as it started to get tedious. Silent Hill 3 turns that tedium up to 11 while also not bothering to give the player any inkling of why Heather is doing what she's doing - you just wander around a string of nightmare hellscapes with no goal or motivation beyond "that's what you do in a Silent Hill game".

 

[Super Hans v2]

While Ironsights made sense for consoles allowing the player to tell the game when it wants the aim assist to turn on while also helping player see the screen better since they'll be sitting further away, its a nuisance for pc that we've never recovered from.

I am going off of 20 years of memory, so I could be wrong, but I think the first Medal of Honor with iron sights was European Assault, which was a direct response to CoD1, only on PC.

And I don't get how this is a PC being shit up by consoles thing anyway. The zoom-in method was only there to save on resources, not because it was better, because it isn't.

 

[Scarthew]

I am going off of 20 years of memory, so I could be wrong, but I think the first Medal of Honor with iron sights was European Assault, which was a direct response to CoD1, only on PC.

And I don't get how this is a PC being shit up by consoles thing anyway. The zoom-in method was only there to save on resources, not because it was better, because it isn't.

I thought it was rising sun, if im wrong whatever, many games did it before cod1 and I wasnt referring to cod1 anyway, I generally associate CoD4 (thats modern warfare right?) as the first big one that shifted everything.

The point of ads in that game is to activate the auto aim. This turned every shooter from point and click to a three button affair and there's just no good reason for it.

 

[The Ugly One]

You talk about wow as if it was still 2011-2012.

No, I talk about WoW as if it's 2024, when games that are decades old still have millions of players because of how shit modern gaming is, to the point where a twenty-year-old game with laughably outdated graphics made over $600m last year.

i wanted to say is world of warcraft players do not represent the average pc gamer very well these days

You outright said it's a niche title when it's still easily a top 20 PC game. First you tried to cope by saying those 7 million subscribers are all Chinks playing for free. Now you're trying to cope by saying revenue doesn't matter. Just admit you were caught off guard by how popular it still is.

152 euro is more than i spent on games this year

One person with no money is obviously not defining the marketplace, not when Fortnite makes over $5 billion last year.

Those 152 euros a year become the price of a very decent gaming pc in the span of a generation, so it's hard to justify buying a console if you care about videogames. who's supposed to buy them other than rich casual gamers?

If you think being able to spend ten bucks a month to play online makes you "rich," and the only way for you to get a thousand bucks is to count pennies every day for nearly a decade, you're either a kid or so poor that you struggle getting enough calories to survive. I spend well over 10x that just on phone + internet + streaming for myself and the fam.

I don't even play console games online, it's just that "only millionaires have ten dollars!! " is such a ridiculous argument to make.

While Ironsights made sense for consoles allowing the player to tell the game when it wants the aim assist to turn on while also helping player see the screen better since they'll be sitting further away, its a nuisance for pc that we've never recovered from.

It significantly reduces bullet spread.

 

[officer Aya brea]

Silent Hill 3

You are giant nigger for this.

I have been playing NFS most wanted and...holy shit how the hell did this single game even outsell all of the halo series, because this game fucking blows compared to MC2. I wondered why i wasn't "feeling it" and...it hit me why, the music compared to MC2 just sucks, its shitty metal and nigger music compared to the rave party that was MC2. that's when i realized that ( alongside Hotline miami,deltarune and the Doom series) some games live and die by whether or not the music is good or not.

 

[popnloch ness monster]

I wondered why i wasn't "feeling it" and...it hit me why, the music

I AM ROCK

 

[The Foxtrot]

I AM ROCK

But Rock, do you eat rocks while listening to rock?

 

[Am I Very Wrong]

One person with no money is obviously not defining the marketplace, not when Fortnite makes over $5 billion last year.

Don't spend ≠ don't have. take a hint.
There are plenty of people like me, even very good earners with no rent to worry about. Most of the money comes from whales.

If you think being able to spend ten bucks a month to play online makes you "rich," and the only way for you to get a thousand bucks is to count pennies every day for nearly a decade, you're either a kid or so poor that you struggle getting enough calories to survive. I spend well over 10x that just on phone + internet + streaming for myself and the fam.

I don't even play console games online, it's just that "only millionaires have ten dollars!! " is such a ridiculous argument to make.

I didn't make that argument though.

Had i sticked with consoles it would have been far more than 142 (closer to 2000). If you consider thousands of dollars a year inconsequential (or you can't be arsed dealing with computers for gaming) then good for you, but i'm gonna assume you're either doing fine economically or you don't play that much.

It's absurd that there are still plenty of fanboys saying that gaming computers are too expensive compared to consoles, even when you don't factor games.
Consoles only make sense for someone who's so rich money is never an issue and they couldn't be arsed dealing with a pc because they have better things to do than playing videogames anyway.

No, I talk about WoW as if it's 2024, when games that are decades old still have millions of players because of how shit modern gaming is, to the point where a twenty-year-old game with laughably outdated graphics made over $600m last year.

Need i remind you you called wow "the most popular PC game of all time" and "often the only game a PC gamer would play for years on end"? this was true when i played it as a teen, but i'm telling you it's not been the case for a very long time. It really sounds like something someone who just exited a time machine would say.

You outright said it's a niche title when it's still easily a top 20 PC game. First you tried to cope by saying those 7 million subscribers are all Chinks playing for free. Now you're trying to cope by saying revenue doesn't matter. Just admit you were caught off guard by how popular it still is.

I did, because with how polarizing the top games are i would even consider the top 20 game a niche and to be honest wow may not even be in the top 20 at all. Free to play games are the big deal these days, and world of warcraft is a subscription based game that is mainly popular among middle aged people who have been playing for many years (i might be wrong on this one, but it's my anecdotal experience).
Bots are a massive problem in mmo's and wow has had a long history with them, so don't downplay that (especially when multiboxing is a thing).
I don't even think it lost players through the years, it's that pc gaming became so big it got left behind in favor of mobas, shooters and whatever it is that kids play these days.

Also (since i think we're derailing at this point) i wouldn't call modern gaming shit. Technically you'd be right because online games are mostly shit that's been played out of addiction, but you can find plenty of modern games that blow whatever i used to play as a kid out of the water

 

[The Ugly One]

Don't spend ≠ don't have. take a hint.

You think about money in terms of saving $10 a month for the better part of a decade to buy a computer. That's how poor people count money. People who actually have money don't need 10-year saving plans for things that cost $1000. We need 1-2 month savings plans. Even @WelperHelper99 doesn't have much money and managed to save up for a PC faster than 7 or 8 years or whatever you think is normal.

I didn't make that argument though.

You actually did. You:

"who's supposed to buy [consoles] other than rich casual gamers?"

This was due to the shocking, colossal expense of $10/month. You think $10/month is rich people money. You said so explicitly. When I paid for consoles online, I was a grad student, I can't imagine how poor you must be for such a paltry sum to seem like rich people money. I'm not shitting on you for being poor, since I had very little money throughout my twenties, but you've got to understand that to the average American a few tens of dollars a year is not much money at all. I'm pretty sure I spend more than that on toilet paper.

If you consider thousands of dollars a year inconsequential

An annual Playstation Plus subscription is $80, not $2000. Xbox Live for a year up front is $70.

Need i remind you you called wow "the most popular PC game of all time" and "often the only game a PC gamer would play for years on end"?

Yes, thank you for reminding me of some of the correct things I've said. Next, perhaps you'll remind me that I said playing console games online doesn't cost "thousands of dollars a year." And since WoW came out in 2004, around the time console gamers supposedly ruined everything by being willing to pay subscription fees, it's an excellent game to point to, as PC gamers joyfully handed Blizzard money every month for just one game.

i would even consider the top 20 game a niche

That's not what the word "niche" means.

 

[The Last Stand]

Even @WelperHelper99 doesn't have much money and managed to save up for a PC faster than 7 or 8 years or whatever you think is normal.

That sounds like a challenge.

The first Saints Row IS a next-gen GTA (in context to the 3D era). It's a good thing IV exists; they can both coexist as open world crime games. I only wish Volition was not vilified as being a GTA imitator/clone. What a ridiculous claim to make about something.

 

[Leaded Gasoline]

I only wish Volition was not vilified as being a GTA imitator/clone.

I wish Saints Row had not turned into garbage after the second one

 

[Am I Very Wrong]

An annual Playstation Plus subscription is $80, not $2000. Xbox Live for a year up front is $70.

"152 euro is more than i spent on games this year and it's not like i missed out on anything (implying i played many). Had i been on console..." of course i saved up on the games!
i would have had to also buy a switch (a new one of course), replace who knows how many joycons,...and it's not like the switch is the only console i emulated. some ps2 games can be pretty expensive on ebay too (games like haunting ground, which i used to own).

I used the + subscription example to point out that consoles are not good for either poor or rich people who are into gaming, as it was an easy way to see that you end up spending more even without factoring the games. hell, a single year of subscription + the price of a ps5 already sets you back 650 here, which you could already use to buy a good enough pc.
Of course in a 7 year span those 152 a year become irrelevant (that's what i spend in a week for groceries), but that's even more true for the difference in price between a console and an equivalent. It's obviously the games that make the big difference in price (even without factoring piracy, especially when it comes to emulators).

I didn't say they're for rich people , i said "who's supposed to buy [consoles] other than rich casual gamers?" (and also made you an example).
In fact, none of my poor friends has a console, while they all have decent gaming computers. The main reason why they opt for computers is not the playstation + subscription.
Some don't even pirate games, but they still end up saving up in other ways.

Don't get me wrong, i am poor (while still spending more than 10 on kitchen paper), but it's insane how you misinterpreted what i said to the point where you actually believe, despite me telling you it's not the case, that i save up 10 bucks a month for the "better part of 10 years" (which then became 10) so that i can buy a gaming computer. how the fuck would i even afford to use it? i don't think it's even possible to be that poor and still being mentally capable of saving up, even in the poorest places of south america.
What the fuck are we even talking about anymore?

TL;DR i save a lot of money on games every year. computers are cheaper than consoles and more powerful. get a pc unless you're rich and you think a playstation 5 looks better in your living room. also i can afford toilet paper.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

It's funny to see what petty gaming arguments look like like from the outside.