2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[Catch The Rainbow]

Israeli bus company Egged was told to prep hundreds of busses and have drivers on standby. Likely for reservists

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Hezbollah's operational plan for war with Israel: hope Israel spontaneously stops existing

I found a more functional and practical plan for them

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

Is Hezbollah even a powerful threat anymore? Or are they more of a one trick pony like hamas?

 

[QE65]

Is Hezbollah even a powerful threat anymore? Or are they more of a one trick pony like hamas?

They have more resources and are better armed than Hamas by all accounts. In terms of organization, not sure. But they have taken loss after loss at the moment, how they respond will determine how they are viewed for years to come I imagine.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

They have more resources and are better armed than Hamas by all accounts. In terms of organization, not sure. But they have taken loss after loss at the moment, how they respond will determine how they are viewed for years to come I imagine.

I know for a fact the Israelis feared what happened on Oct 7 happening in the north (that's one of the reasons Oct 7 was a success) but it looks like this time the Israelis are taking their time and grinding Hezbollah down until

A) The UN finally gets involved and forces Hezbollah back from the border (as per the UNSC mandate)

B) The people of Lebanon get sick of Hezbollah and force them out (highly unlikely)

C) The situation becomes ideal for Israel to win.


This war is the war Israel has been planning since 2015.

What we are about to see is a perfect execution of military science

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

I know for a fact the Israelis feared what happened on Oct 7 happening in the north (that's one of the reasons Oct 7 was a success) but it looks like this time the Israelis are taking their time and grinding Hezbollah down until

A) The UN finally gets involved and forces Hezbollah back from the border (as per the UNSC mandate)

B) The people of Lebanon get sick of Hezbollah and force them out (highly unlikely)

C) The situation becomes ideal for Israel to win.


This war is the war Israel has been planning since 2015.

What we are about to see is a perfect execution of military science

Yep

Israel is shaping the battlefield.

They're killing and neutralizing commanders, mid level field operators and most importantly, rocket launching hardware.

You can have 100k rockets sitting in a bunker but they're useless if you can't launch them.

Same as a having a gigantic air force with no pilots or soldiers with no guns.

I'd bet money on the IDF going big into southern Lebanon before January and probably right around the US election....

 

[EyeGuy]

Turns out that Israel wiped out not just Aqil, but the entire leadership of Hezbollah's Radwan force:

The IDF names the top leadership of Hezbollah's elite Radwan Force, who were killed alongside senior commander Ibrahim Aqil in yesterday's airstrike on Beirut.

Aqil was the head of Hezbollah's military operations, the acting commander of the Radwan Force, and the head of a plan to invade the Galilee.

Aqil had been meeting with the senior commanders of the Radwan Force under a residential building in Beirut when the IDF carried out its strike. The top commander and 15 other Hezbollah officers were killed in the strike.

Among the dead was Ahmed Wahbi, identified by Hezbollah and the IDF as the head of the terror group's training unit and a former commander of the Radwan Force.

The IDF says Wahbi was among those involved in the planning of a Hezbollah invasion of the Galilee, and was also involved in "advancing Hezbollah's entrenchment in southern Lebanon, while attempting to improve the organization's ground combat capabilities."

Over the years and during the first months of the war, the military says Wahabi was involved in planning and carrying out rocket fire and infiltration attacks.

Other top Radwan Force commanders killed in the strike are identified by the IDF as: Samer Halawi, commander of the coastal region; Abbas Muslimani, commander of the Qana region; Abdullah Hijazi, commander of the Ramim Ridge region; Muhammad Reda, commander of the Khiam region; Hassan Madi, commander of the Mount Dov region; Hassan Abd al-Satar, head of operations; and Hussein Hadraj; the chief of staff.

"These commanders had been leading and planning the Radwan Force's attack and infiltration plan into Israeli territory for years, to be executed when given the order," the military says.

"Aqil and the commanders eliminated in the strike were responsible for planning, advancing, and executing hundreds of terrorist operations against Israel, including the planning of Hezbollah's murderous scheme to raid the communities of the Galilee," the IDF adds.

Bunch of new trading cards. More than 500 Hezbollah deaths now:


New wave of airstrikes in southern Lebanon and the Beqaa:

The IDF is restricting civilian activity north of Haifa:

IDF Spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari says the Home Front Command is issuing new restrictions on civilians from the Haifa area and northward, as fighting escalates in northern Israel.

He says educational activities and workplaces will be able to operate if an adequate shelter is nearby and can be reached in time.

There will be restrictions on gatherings: Up to 30 people outdoors and 300 people indoors.

The changes come as the IDF carries out widespread airstrikes against Hezbollah sites and rocket launchers in southern Lebanon this evening.

Hagari says that the strikes come after the military identified Hezbollah preparations to launch rockets at Israel.

He says that today, more than 400 Hezbollah rocket launchers have been struck today.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

trading cards

Good thing they're letting the trading card guy live

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

Good thing they're letting the trading card guy live

when the enemy runs their own 'here's all the idiots we got killed' campaign constantly, why would you stop them? trading card guy is probably mossad.

 

[Mr K Dilkington]

I know for a fact the Israelis feared what happened on Oct 7 happening in the north (that's one of the reasons Oct 7 was a success) but it looks like this time the Israelis are taking their time and grinding Hezbollah down until

A) The UN finally gets involved and forces Hezbollah back from the border (as per the UNSC mandate)

B) The people of Lebanon get sick of Hezbollah and force them out (highly unlikely)

C) The situation becomes ideal for Israel to win.


This war is the war Israel has been planning since 2015.

What we are about to see is a perfect execution of military science

In reference to B, Israel could be hoping to provoke hezbollah into overreacting and this response giving Israel the international green light with regard to an invasion.

This would be a major mistake as Hezbollah still needs to court the Lebanese population and no-one is going to be happy if the country soon resembles Gaza with the only response being "we are standing with Palestinians". Hard to give a shit when you have nowhere to live.

Hezbollah is stuck between a rock and a hard place, has to look powerful in its response to it's base, has to show willing to support the axis and has to be careful not to give Israel the excuse it wants to pound the place into dust.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

Turns out that Israel wiped out not just Aqil, but the entire leadership of Hezbollah's Radwan force:

That's undoubtedly the main thing they were trying to accomplish here.

Step 1: Make sure no one trusts any electronic devices for communication, forcing in-person meetings for upper leadership to discuss what has happened.
Step 2: Use moles in Hezbollah to learn when and where the in-person meetings are being conducted.
Step 3: Use tactical strikes to eliminate large numbers of high-value targets with minimal collateral damage.

These organizations are highly dispersed on purpose and typically they don't gather everyone in a room because they know the risk to the organizational structure as a whole if a strike knocked them all out. This was the real point of the endeavor. There may be other meetings happening as well, and they'll also be hit.

Good luck to any one-handed amputees who want to ever travel through Ben Gurion Airport again, I think you're going to have to proceed through special screening.

 

[EyeGuy]

More of the fireworks tonight:

 

[TheBigZee]

I know for a fact the Israelis feared what happened on Oct 7 happening in the north (that's one of the reasons Oct 7 was a success) but it looks like this time the Israelis are taking their time and grinding Hezbollah down until

A) The UN finally gets involved and forces Hezbollah back from the border (as per the UNSC mandate)

B) The people of Lebanon get sick of Hezbollah and force them out (highly unlikely)

C) The situation becomes ideal for Israel to win.

Any UN action results in Hamas winning. The rest of the UNSC will not involve itself in Lebanon w/o a binding agreement on implementing two states. IIRC Hezbollah was supposed to be disarmed.

I think it's unlikely a ground offensive results in displaced Israelis going home any time soon. Lebanon borders Syria - It's not like gaza and the west bank where Israel has some level of cooperation from it's neighbors.

In reference to B, Israel could be hoping to provoke hezbollah into overreacting and this response giving Israel the international green light with regard to an invasion.

They aren't. Hezbollah can't do any more than it's already doing unless Israel invades and they can fight a guerrilla campaign. Which still benefits Syria and Iran b/c they've got a meatgrinder their economically useless young men can throw themselves into.

I don't see this stopping until Israel has a security pact with Jordan and Saudi Arabia. As long as Iran thinks they've got an eventual shot at picking the countries off one by one, they'll keep at this crap.

 

[EyeGuy]

Iron Dome interception earlier today:

The Palestinian struggle is the tranny struggle:

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

At this rate they are going to have all the Hezbollah leadership killed before the end of the year

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

This would be a major mistake as Hezbollah still needs to court the Lebanese population and no-one is going to be happy if the country soon resembles Gaza with the only response being "we are standing with Palestinians".

Would you sacrifice your people for a bunch of arabs?

the

I was referring to Lebanon not Hamas.


I wish Lebanon's Christians would take their country back

Where is this tranny hell?

 

[Dawdler]

Probably because of how half assed and retarded the last time Israel went over the border was. If they do it again it's going to require alot of firepower and that takes time to assemble

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War

Are you perhaps referring to this ?
Lebanon well prepared their positions and wiped out their armored division that was stupid enough to invade.
It was same as in Israel-Egypt war when israeli tankers were surprised by russian supplied ATGMs.

 

[TheBigZee]

I was referring to Lebanon not Hamas.

It's all connected. If the US needs another UNSC resolution because maintaining a buffer in Lebannon is too draining, the US won't be able to block a gaza ceasefire where hamas survives.

I wish Lebanon's Christians would take their country back

No. America needs some quality refugees and immigrants.

 

[mindlessobserver]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War

Are you perhaps referring to this ?
Lebanon well prepared their positions and wiped out their armored division that was stupid enough to invade.
It was same as in Israel-Egypt war when israeli tankers were surprised by russian supplied ATGMs.

The 2006 invasion was led by a general who had sniffed his own farts. He literally tried to prosecute a war based on post modern philisophical concepts of "perception=reality".


Which led to retardation like sending an unsupported tank column into hostile territory in order to make the enemy "believe" the front has moved. When it had not.

Needless to say facts didn't care about his feelings and Hezbollah handed the Israeli Army it's ass. I don't think this mistake will be repeated.

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

An Israeli airstrike in Dahiyeh has killed Ibrahim Aqil, Hezbollah's Head of Operations:


Aqil had a $7 million price on his head from the US over his involvement in the 1983 Beirut bombings:
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The blows to Hezbollah just keep coming, one after the other. Next thing it will be Nasrallah in pajamas in the middle of the night.

Turns out that Israel wiped out not just Aqil, but the entire leadership of Hezbollah's Radwan force:

Great news.. Americans should be celebratory about this as well (once again). REST IN PISS!

Wow they are taking the complete head off of this organization. At the same time they wreak havoc on the mid and even lower level masses of it. (the electronics attacks) Could this be the opening shots, a sort of clearing of the way, for something more?
Either way, they are being very proactive here.. After what hamas did, not taking any chances. Especially with a much more dangerous enemy?

That's undoubtedly the main thing they were trying to accomplish here.

Step 1: Make sure no one trusts any electronic devices for communication, forcing in-person meetings for upper leadership to discuss what has happened.
Step 2: Use moles in Hezbollah to learn when and where the in-person meetings are being conducted.
Step 3: Use tactical strikes to eliminate large numbers of high-value targets with minimal collateral damage.

These organizations are highly dispersed on purpose and typically they don't gather everyone in a room because they know the risk to the organizational structure as a whole if a strike knocked them all out. This was the real point of the endeavor. There may be other meetings happening as well, and they'll also be hit.

Good luck to any one-handed amputees who want to ever travel through Ben Gurion Airport again, I think you're going to have to proceed through special screening.

That was exactly my thoughts. It seems to be working perfectly thankfully.
This also opens up a window in general for Israel to use. Now they are going to be scared to do anything at all and with regional leaders wiped out. Combined with the pager/electronics attacks hitting a lot of the mid level guys most likely.. They will be paralyzed to do anything for a while. Will Israel take advantage and take them out as a serious threat completely?