Animal Breeding Horror Show - Featuring trendy bulldogs, exotic bullies and the dog cum cartel

[NerdShamer]

Off topic, but what causes a dog to over eat? Some dogs eat until they are full, others eat until they become like a hairy ball that has to go outside to shit every half hour, given a moment's lack of supervision with a food source nearby.

Something related to actual food scarcity or just being slightly underfed for most of it's life. Kind of depends on some other stuff

 

[DenseDeerFather]

What do you get when you mix a breed known for extremely high prey drive and predatory drift with a breed that is notorious for biting everything and being defensive despite its small size
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Yikes. Looks like its skull is halfway to being split in two.

 

[neverendingmidi]

Off topic, but what causes a dog to over eat? Some dogs eat until they are full, others eat until they become like a hairy ball that has to go outside to shit every half hour, given a moment's lack of supervision with a food source nearby.

I swear this is purely personality. We have two dogs from the same breeder. Different litters since they’re 2 years apart in age. The older one is completely mellow about food. If he were an only dog, I could probably free-feed him and he’d just munch as necessary. I can put his food down and pick the bowl up again no problem.

The girl on the other hand… is psychotic over food. She would inhale food until her stomach ruptured. We had to train her to “wait” when we put her bowl down or she’d throw herself so violently at it that she’d scatter the food and bowl out of her crate and across the floor before we could shut the door. And she was one of only 2 puppies in that litter. She was the fattest puppy I’d ever seen. No idea why she’s like that about food given that she’s pretty relaxed about everything else.

 

[Coldsteel the Hedgehog]

Some dogs just fucking love food, same as people. Breeds that are extremely food driven like Labs are known for their ease of training because they'll do whatever you ask them for a stale breadcrust, so it's a trait that gets purposefully selected and can just be something some animals are prone to.

We had a lab mutt who we had to feed from those roller toys because she just loved food so much she'd make herself sick.

 

[Just Another Autist]

To add on to the food drive conversation, about 25% of Labs (and 60% of flat coated retrievers) have a common gene mutation that makes them hungrier while burning fewer calories. This is why labs are so prone to obesity and have such an obsession with food. The mutation was found in 2016 and there's been a handful of studies on it since then. A screening test is available so breeders that aren't smashing and slamming should be able to mitigate the risk in future litters.

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

Some dogs just fucking love food, same as people. Breeds that are extremely food driven like Labs are known for their ease of training because they'll do whatever you ask them for a stale breadcrust, so it's a trait that gets purposefully selected and can just be something some animals are prone to.

Food drive is definitely set at birth but can change with age and experience.

When my family's dog was young he didn't really care about food, treats or otherwise. Food was fine but a low priority to him, he preferred attention and play. He had actually just sat by and watched a human toddler eat his food once. Occasionally I had to even encourage him to eat with puzzles, kongs and scatter feeding because I needed him to eat at a certain time so he would be ready to poop when I was able to take him out.

Then he got older, slightly less enthusiastic about exercise and put on little bit of extra weight. The vet told my mom put him on diet and after that diet he couldn't get enough of treats. Even his regular food was clearly a higher priority. We actually started to need keep human food away from him witch just hadn't been necessarily before because he hadn't cared. Still not the most food motived individual but more food motivated.

 

[Lady Bizness]

Spoiler: Off topic bitching

I cannot stand high food drive dogs. Have a friend who frequently hosts house parties but her dog is a pill. Look away for a second to grab the mustard and suddenly she's got my littlest's hot dog and I'm torn between stopping this stupid animal from choking on a hot dog and and managing my child's sudden grief. Just glad no one got bit. Of course I can't just quickly brush this under the rug. Every one's being dramatic about it. Fun conversation over. Child having a tantrum. Dudes chasing the dog. Mustard everywhere. Somebody knocked over my beer. Dog throws up later with a disgusting preamble of retching and convulsing.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

Spoiler: Off topic bitching

I cannot stand high food drive dogs. Have a friend who frequently hosts house parties but her dog is a pill. Look away for a second to grab the mustard and suddenly she's got my littlest's hot dog and I'm torn between stopping this stupid animal from choking on a hot dog and and managing my child's sudden grief. Just glad no one got bit. Of course I can't just quickly brush this under the rug. Every one's being dramatic about it. Fun conversation over. Child having a tantrum. Dudes chasing the dog. Mustard everywhere. Somebody knocked over my beer. Dog throws up later with a disgusting preamble of retching and convulsing.

This is more of a training and overly generous owner issue than a food drive issue. My dog has a high food drive, but I can eat a burger while sitting right by her without getting harassed. Giving in to begging when the dog is a puppy causes these sorts of problems.

A high food drive makes training much easier because the dog will do anything for food.

 

[Lady Bizness]

This is more of a training and overly generous owner issue than a food drive issue. My dog has a high food drive, but I can eat a burger while sitting right by her without getting harassed. Giving in to begging when the dog is a puppy causes these sorts of problems.

A high food drive makes training much easier because the dog will do anything for food.

I believe you but in all practicality, the average person does not have the time or resolve to do this. She's already gone to doggy school and had a certificate and everything (ha!) but it doesn't count when you're busy at a party apparently. Nice people, not a mean animal, but just annoying to the point that I don't understand why people take on pets. Do they know they don't have to?

 

[Coldsteel the Hedgehog]

I believe you but in all practicality, the average person does not have the time or resolve to do this. She's already gone to doggy school and had a certificate and everything (ha!) but it doesn't count when you're busy at a party apparently. Nice people, not a mean animal, but just annoying to the point that I don't understand why people take on pets. Do they know they don't have to?

A lot of those things just aren't usually a big issue if you live with the dog and know how it acts. I had a dog that would look you in the eyes and steal food right off your plate because she'd been a stray her whole life, and the answer was as simple as "don't leave food down where she can reach it." Taught the little ones to eat at the table and it became something funny when it happened, because the only times it did was when it was our fault because we knew better.

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

. I had a dog that would look you in the eyes and steal food right off your plate because she'd been a stray her whole life,

I'll do you one better. My mother has a dog that was abused by his previous owner. He started off stealing food off plates when you weren't in the same room, to stealing it off your plate when you weren't looking, to stealing it from your hands when you weren't looking in his general direction. Lost my shit once when he stole my fucking beefalo patty. My mother never punishes him correctly for it, fucking pats him on the fucking head while telling him no, so it reinforces that behavior.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

I'll do you one better. My mother has a dog that was abused by his previous owner. He started off stealing food off plates when you weren't in the same room, to stealing it off your plate when you weren't looking, to stealing it from your hands when you weren't looking in his general direction. Lost my shit once when he stole my fucking beefalo patty. My mother never punishes him correctly for it, fucking pats him on the fucking head while telling him no, so it reinforces that behavior.

Had a dog that stole a hamburger bun right off someone's burger once. That person was sitting right in front of her eating. She just took the top bun and walked off.

 

[BunchofMunch]

A lot of those things just aren't usually a big issue if you live with the dog and know how it acts. I had a dog that would look you in the eyes and steal food right off your plate because she'd been a stray her whole life, and the answer was as simple as "don't leave food down where she can reach it." Taught the little ones to eat at the table and it became something funny when it happened, because the only times it did was when it was our fault because we knew better.

Something a lot of people also seem to forget is that your dog doesn't have to be present for a house party. In fact, most dogs get stressed the fuck out by a bunch of people walking around "their" house while they have no idea what's going on. It might not always be obvious, but if you know what to look for you can see how uncomfortable they are with the situation.

 

[Lookie-lou]

What do you get when you mix a breed known for extremely high prey drive and predatory drift with a breed that is notorious for biting everything and being defensive despite its small size
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pits and their mixes already look like 80s creature feature monsters, but fucking hell that's fever dream shit. Imagine seeing one of those peering out a wardrobe.

 

[AnOminous]

What do you get when you mix a breed known for extremely high prey drive and predatory drift with a breed that is notorious for biting everything and being defensive despite its small size

You get what you fucking deserve.

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

You get what you fucking deserve.

*puts down dog*

 

[Otterly]

I'll do you one better. My mother has a dog that was abused by his previous owner. He started off stealing food off plates when you weren't in the same room, to stealing it off your plate when you weren't looking, to stealing it from your hands when you weren't looking in his general direction. Lost my shit once when he stole my fucking beefalo patty. My mother never punishes him correctly for it, fucking pats him on the fucking head while telling him no, so it reinforces that behavior.

SMASHED and SLAMMED seagull x lab mix!

 

[Scarlet Imperial]

Off topic, but what causes a dog to over eat? Some dogs eat until they are full, others eat until they become like a hairy ball that has to go outside to shit every half hour, given a moment's lack of supervision with a food source nearby.

Late and gay as many others have replied already, but you did specifically ask me, so! In my opinion, the main factor is just a dog's natural personality/genetics. In my experience, you can (and usually should) free-feed a dog without issues - animals naturally stop eating when they're full and don't over eat as long as they feel their food source is secure. A dog can start over eating for multiple reasons - food scarcity being the main one, poor food quality, food being "stolen" or taken away, etc. Most of the time and without complicating factors, unless it's just because that particular dog is neurotic and dumb, the issue is solved by giving the dog free access to a high quality food. They'll scarf it all down at first, but after a few days or a week when they realize the food isn't disappearing on them, they'll calm down. If they eat too quickly, you can always get them one of those puzzle bowls meant to slow them down, but I only reccommend that if there's risk of choking otherwise. Unless the dog has a serious mental issue, it won't gorge itself to death, it just might gain a little weight that it needs to run off.

Dealt with a stray pick up not too long ago who'd been on the street his entire puppyhood into young adulthood. Real bad issues with raiding absolutely any and all food, snuffling in the garbage even when he just ate, etc. He was pretty well traumatized, emaciated and near death when he was found. His food had to be limited at first to not cause re-feeding, but once he went home after a month he was free-fed a good quality puppy food. He settled down in less than a week, even after going through all that, even stopped the garbage can raids. He'll hoover up anything you drop on the floor and he begs if you're eating, apparently, but you can leave food on a surface he can reach and he won't go for it unless you tell him he can have it, even when you're not in the room. No resource guarding either.

On the other hand, a friend of mine once had a lab who would eat anything and everything in sight, to the point that she nearly died of it on multiple occasions. She would eat an entire bag of dog food in a single sitting, then be so full that she literally couldn't move. She ate animals alive all the time. She'd steal food from the fridge, food if you weren't looking. People food, dog food, cat food, vaguely food items that most people wouldn't even think of as food, bait/poison items. She apparently loved to steal beers in particular and would bite the caps off to drink them. She was absolutely fucking insane, and somehow lived to be almost 20 despite all this. Her worst case was when she ate a whole pork hide that was curing in their barn. Like, she didn't even really tear it apart that much. Being country folk who didn't believe in seeing a vet when a bullet is just a couple cents, their solution was to wait until she started pooping it out, then tie the fucking end of it to their tractor, and let her "work it out" by herself. She fucking survived this. She also had a habit of laying too close to bonfires because she loved the heat, and on multiple occasions would actually lay down on the fire itself and then run yiping away when she caught fire and had to be put out. Brain smoother than a fucking river rock, that one.

All this to say - really depends on the dog. But as someone else in the thread pointed out, retrievers tend to have pica and will over-eat more readily than most.

 

[James done did it]

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Any fellow skeemers trying this? They'll be able to double bully production at this rate. Millions must live. I wonder if this actually does work on dogs if humans will try taking it too. It could be the next in the long trend of animal products for human use (horse ivermectin, fish antibiotics, mane & tail, horse electrolyte mix, prepared primate diets).

 

[Risky Horse Business]

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Any fellow skeemers trying this? They'll be able to double bully production at this rate. Millions must live. I wonder if this actually does work on dogs if humans will try taking it too. It could be the next in the long trend of animal products for human use (horse ivermectin, fish antibiotics, mane & tail, horse electrolyte mix, prepared primate diets).

Nah, it'll be nonsense bullshit. Just made up rubbish.