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Phase being willing to work with indies is interesting. Obviously you have to be a fairly popular / big indie. But still its interesting. Because like you said now you don't NEED to be in that company you can get stuff alongside them.
This is obviously not the case now, but I can see a future where Hololive uses the Affiliate status to make Indies Semi-official Talents. Vshojo's days as the Vtuber retirement home are coming to a end, the genre is moving to a more independent system it seems like where "talent freedom" means actual freedom for a company and not larping as if you are free from a company while still having someone breathing down your neck.
 
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They really have to show Froot the door if they want to flourish. Harboring a traitorous slut does no favors for anyone. Hell, just blacklist her as well while you are at it.
As many have speculated, Froot's document might have been in response to a possible ousting, but I wouldn't be shocked if Vshojo is still planning on giving her the boot as soon as they can. Froot really doesn't have the same name power as Ironmouse, Melody, or hell even Nyanners had in Vshojo, she's there but no one thinks about her unless its to make fun of her. Losing her can't hurt Vshojo anymore than losing Silvervale did. That is unless Froot is holding onto dirt pertaining to all of Vshojo, and could effectively sink the entire company overnight.
 
Just imagine. This whole damn PR disaster could have been avoided if Froot hadn't felt the urge to farm sympathy for more engagement. An absolute woman moment
Or at least if you must do it on your IRL accounts so all of your coworkers have plausable deniability for why they are ignoring it in order to make sure the company is safe.
 
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I have a very bad habit of looking for the good in any person or thing I meet, and it's also my favorite habit. I've been cheated, taken advantage of, and hurt a lot because of it, but it's my personality and I can't fix it 😂 but life is a learning experience! I'm going to learn from everything and move on! I always want to be the best I can be.
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It makes sense. She did back Rushia when she got canned and we saw how all that worked out. I feel for her.
 
I really doubt Mint would go to Vshojo, Doki has showed that a Vtuber can stand alone without needing any backing, and frankly Vshojo provides nothing to Mint that she couldn't do herself. Hell, her joining Phase is more likely than her joining Vshojo.
Heck, VTubers were showing it was ok to go indie way before Doki. The reasons most, especially EN, would need a company is gone. The only reason you should join a Corpo now is if you actually want to do Idol stuff. And the majority of EN VTubers do not.

Which is why a lot of Corpos seem to have issues. A lot of talents join up to get audiance via hype and then seem to leave swiftly,
 
As many have speculated, Froot's document might have been in response to a possible ousting, but I wouldn't be shocked if Vshojo is still planning on giving her the boot as soon as they can. Froot really doesn't have the same name power as Ironmouse, Melody, or hell even Nyanners had in Vshojo, she's there but no one thinks about her unless its to make fun of her. Losing her can't hurt Vshojo anymore than losing Silvervale did. That is unless Froot is holding onto dirt pertaining to all of Vshojo, and could effectively sink the entire company overnight.
In the off hand chance she does have that sort of info, I'd love it if she just hit the fuckin nuclear launch buttons. Just because it'd be funny. But I feel like if she tried to go nuclear on everyone, it'd be mutually assured destruction. Hell I don't doubt ex members like Silver and Nyanners could come back with dirt on her too.

But I mean, a lot of whats already known about Vsho talents I'd say is already pretty career ending, no? Zens a literal dude (Not even a tranny ashamed of her voice or something) larping a big titty dragon lady. Maybe Mouse having a kid would harm her metrics but once again, this is already out there. Mel does porn. Career ender everywhere else in the world but not in Vsho. I can't imagine Henya or Kson have some world ending dirt being held by Froot either. No one in the company even seems that close to her anymore. Has she even been collabin with anyone from the company as of late?
 
Honestly Froot leaving at the end of the month could be a viable powerplay depending on how she does it. If she for example, formed a new group and platformed a bunch of indies within it, she'd be able to establish herself as queen of a fresh hierarchy system; atop of getting brownie points from within the community for doing something "good" with her so-called status. It would also cast more light onto Vshojo's awful job at retaining talent and it's hiring practices to counter depatures.

Basically a new 3AM/Westside/MSM level of petty drama is what I desire.
 
That is unless Froot is holding onto dirt pertaining to all of Vshojo, and could effectively sink the entire company overnight.
She undoubtedly is. But the thing is everyone else would likely have stuff on her. She’s the kind of person where you need to have stuff just for your own safety because she is that nuts.
 
The HoloGTA has been some of the best collabs I've seen. I haven't played GTAV since a few years after it was released but I didn't know the online stuff was that detailed even without mods. I just wonder if it would be better with the health increased, it seems like the cars are bulletproof but the people die at a gust of wind.
 
The HoloGTA has been some of the best collabs I've seen. I haven't played GTAV since a few years after it was released but I didn't know the online stuff was that detailed even without mods. I just wonder if it would be better with the health increased, it seems like the cars are bulletproof but the people die at a gust of wind.
They do. Health could absolutely do with upping. Stream can just die if you take small car damage and then the talent is left doing nothing for 5 minutes.
 
Mouse having a kid would harm her metrics but once again, this is already out there.
If it were just the kid thing, I'd agree. Milf Vtubers have become a thing since Normies began watching and ousting the gachikoi/incel foundation of the hobby (who only wanted e-girlfriends). Coomers will always be around because woman. What does strike me is the implications of what it means for her to have a kid and her condition. Is it a degenerative disease? Like she could have kids before but can't go outside her bubble now? Or was it all pure invention?
Call me a retard schizo (you wouldn't be the first) but should Froot have info regarding Mouse's condition or lack thereof pertaining to DM's or some kind of evidence then we'll see the inverse of Nijisanji- the entire community ripping apart a single person
 
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I don't really give much of a shit about Froot being a cheating whore (that shows more about her character than anything else), but her throwing Silvervale under the bus during the Wizard Game fiasco during the torrent of abuse Silver received forcing her to leave is what turned me against her completely.
 
Phase being willing to work with indies is interesting. Obviously you have to be a fairly popular / big indie. But still its interesting. Because like you said now you don't NEED to be in that company you can get stuff alongside them.

Phase has kinda succeeded by being the anti-idol company like that. Bucking a lot of trends has been pretty beneficial for them.

The talent also reflects that imo. VShojo being the retirement home for other vtubers means that they don't have as much of a strong identity that ties all the different talents together.

In comparison, a "Phase Vtuber" has more of an identity that kinda pulls em all together. You know you're gonna probably get menhara, sad girls, or the token "relatively normal one" like Nasa, Ember or Hina.
 
If it were just the kid thing, I'd agree. Milf Vtubers have become a thing since Normies began watching and ousting the gachikoi/incel foundation of the hobby (who only wanted e-girlfriends). Coomers will always be around because woman. What does strike me is the implications of what it means for her to have a kid and her condition. Is it a degenerative disease? Like she could have kids before but can't go outside her bubble now? Or was it all pure invention?
Call me a retard schizo (you wouldn't be the first) but should Froot have info regarding Mouse's condition or lack thereof pertaining to DM's or some kind of evidence then we'll see the inverse of Nijisanji- the entire community ripping apart a single person
Some vtubers who believe their community is above them having a relationship often get a nasty wake up call when the 5% who do care have massive cases of schizophrenia
Or it turns out that they retardedly shift their content to feature their hubby and not themselves, then either the content is different now, their hubby has the personality of sandpaper, or in Nyanners/Aethelstan's case, it turns out the woman is vapid as hell in the face of some basic charisma
 
Phase has kinda succeeded by being the anti-idol company like that. Bucking a lot of trends has been pretty beneficial for them.
It also helps that Phase is a proper idol comp and not just a company that supports indies. In short, the magnement at Phase obviously tard wrangles the talents routonely. Can’t really do that with a bunch of indies.
 
Maybe Mouse having a kid would harm her metrics but once again
It could be just me but I never saw Mouse having a kid or a vtuber having a BF to be a problem but at the same time I watch them for escapism, so I don't care if the vtuber X that I watch has a kid, BF or husband but at the same time I wouldn't watch if that was part of every stream or if she bought that up often.

Froot would be stupid for doing that, it also would be fun to watch and it would be career ending for her, breaking trust out of pettiness is the easiest way for you to lose friends and even woman knows that. How many times you saw a streamer doing that just for it to backfire as because no one trusted the streamer anymore
 
It could be just me but I never saw Mouse having a kid or a vtuber having a BF to be a problem but at the same time I watch them for escapism, so I don't care if the vtuber X that I watch has a kid, BF or husband but at the same time I wouldn't watch if that was part of every stream or if she bought that up often.
It would be a problem if Mouse was JP bit she isn’t. Nor does she pretend she doesn’t have one. She just does not bring it up. Which is the smart thing to do. Not because it should be hidden but because you should want to keep things private as much as you can. You might want to be blasted all over the net, the kid might not.

People these day have no concept of privacy and the levels of it.
 
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