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She was drinking - *a lot* and unhealthy *a lot*
Yeah I know. Nobody wants her to become an Alcoholic again. She can be Senzawa without being an Alcoholic….You do realize that right? We didn’t like her cuz she was drunk, we liked her because she’s her.
It looks like she won't be gone for long
I always subscribe to the Forbidden Knowledge channels just in case Graduation is around the corner.
I liked her old model
Looks sorta like black haired Ame now that I’m seeing it again.
TFW still no Bloodbourne port
FromSoft games suck anyway.
I was kind of bummed my former Oshi was supporting froot. Now I see she was just trying to be supportive of someone she thought was being unjustly targeted, and hadn't looked into it.
Mhm. People defend their friends before they know the whole truth, happens all the time.
Hololive continues to remain so dominant
Because of that but let’s not forget their issues as well.
It makes sense. She did back Rushia when she got canned and we saw how all that worked out. I feel for her.
Like I said, people defend their friends, it happens.
Zens a literal dude (Not even a tranny ashamed of her voice or something) larping a big titty dragon lady.
Really? Always thought it was a scared woman or a troon. Lemme get that video clip.
 
Boy, Pippa is hard to watch nowadays. She’s become “generic pink VTuber #795”

Have we already reached the point where we can say “Old Pippa would make fun of New Pippa” like we did with Eminem?
you really did earn that pink triangle didn't you

unrelated because I don't wanna double post, to play the devil's advocate is there anything to substantiate the cheating claims with Froot besides the one guy? I haven't found anything
 
Boy, Pippa is hard to watch nowadays. She’s become “generic pink VTuber #795”

Have we already reached the point where we can say “Old Pippa would make fun of New Pippa” like we did with Eminem?

I think she's just in a lull period right now. Not much she can really jump in on (at least, not anything that wouldn't cause VShojo fans to dogpile her whole company if she mentions a certain fruity individual).

Hopefully there's more collabs soonish tho. Those tend to have the best content and putting Tenma, Lia, Clara, Pippa and Rie together would definitely give us a hell of a lot of good shit.
 
railed on shondo for things she later did herself
Based off of what little I know about Camila, this was back when she first started out and didn't really understand the culture.

I know nothing about the trans shit though.
 
Having actually looked through Froot's document, I do think she was a victim of a terrible cunt of a Husband, he sounds genuinely subhuman and I can't blame her for feeling trapped. The stories about him portray him as a Massive control freak and manchild, the kind of guy who throws her out of the house with nothing but the clothes on her back and her phone over her doing the grand insult of not wanting to shoot a gun at the gun range and "embarrassing" him in front of his friends. One of the first things he does in their relationship is try and join their bank accounts, all while Froot is still living in the UK and in University. Even taking into account the fact Froot is 100% making herself look better than she was, this dude already had one failed marriage before hand, and if this is how he acted the 2nd go then holy shit.

I think the document is worth, at the very least, a quick look to see what exactly she claims happened. I still have my hangups over how clean she comes out of the Doc looking, and she presents it in a weird way where it jumps around from early 2017 to January 2018, so you go from Him getting mad she won't do a sex thing with him to him being mad her University house mates threw a part with their friends in the same house.

The document doesn't absolve her of the shit she did Post-relationship, but assuming the cheating happened in mid to late 2017, not gonna lie he kinda deserved it.

EDIT: Watching through Ant Hime's video now, meant too months ago but never did, and holy shit is there a lot of holes in Froot's story. The sympathy I had for her after reading the Doc has quickly evaporated.
 
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Having actually looked through Froot's document, I do think she was a victim of a terrible cunt of a Husband, he sounds genuinely subhuman and I can't blame her for feeling trapped. The stories about him portray him as a Massive control freak and manchild, the kind of guy who throws her out of the house with nothing but the clothes on her back and her phone over her doing the grand insult of not wanting to shoot a gun at the gun range and "embarrassing" him in front of his friends. One of the first things he does in their relationship is try and join their bank accounts, all while Froot is still living in the UK and in University. Even taking into account the fact Froot is 100% making herself look better than she was, this dude already had one failed marriage before hand, and if this is how he acted the 2nd go then holy shit.

I think the document is worth, at the very least, a quick look to see what exactly she claims happened. I still have my hangups over how clean she comes out of the Doc looking, and she presents it in a weird way where it jumps around from early 2017 to January 2018, so you go from Him getting mad she won't do a sex thing with him to him being mad her University house mates threw a part with their friends in the same house.

The document doesn't absolve her of the shit she did Post-relationship, but assuming the cheating happened in mid to late 2017, not gonna like he kinda deserved it.
They can both be shit people dude.
 
Having actually looked through Froot's document, I do think she was a victim of a terrible cunt of a Husband, he sounds genuinely subhuman and I can't blame her for feeling trapped. The stories about him portray him as a Massive control freak and manchild, the kind of guy who throws her out of the house with nothing but the clothes on her back and her phone over her doing the grand insult of not wanting to shoot a gun at the gun range and "embarrassing" him in front of his friends. One of the first things he does in their relationship is try and join their bank accounts, all while Froot is still living in the UK and in University. Even taking into account the fact Froot is 100% making herself look better than she was, this dude already had one failed marriage before hand, and if this is how he acted the 2nd go then holy shit.

I think the document is worth, at the very least, a quick look to see what exactly she claims happened. I still have my hangups over how clean she comes out of the Doc looking, and she presents it in a weird way where it jumps around from early 2017 to January 2018, so you go from Him getting mad she won't do a sex thing with him to him being mad her University house mates threw a part with their friends in the same house.

The document doesn't absolve her of the shit she did Post-relationship, but assuming the cheating happened in mid to late 2017, not gonna lie he kinda deserved it.
If he was such an asshole, she could have left/divorced him. She doesn't live in Saudi Arabia, divorce courts would have given her everything. This is her side of the story, with no counter argument from her husband. We know she is a lying, backstabbing cunt. She could tell me it was raining, and I'd look at the sky to check.
 
The woman in this video sounds exactly like Towa-sama. Now I doubt Towa is married or a nurse like the dude in this video claims his wife is, but they sound identical!
Is it like an accent thing?
 
If he was such an asshole, she could have left/divorced him. She doesn't live in Saudi Arabia, divorce courts would have given her everything.
With how she sets it up, she couldn't. She was alone in the US without any friends, cut off from her family who was still a ocean away in Bongland, and had nothing of her own really. The story she paints is pretty shitty.
 
Based off of what little I know about Camila, this was back when she first started out and didn't really understand the culture.

I know nothing about the trans shit though.
i honestly keep flip flopping on whether shes someone who is just knowingly lying and malicious for froot and on other situations, or if shes just not versed enough on her to know why shes not innocent here and hasnt accepted shes too sensitive and not actually her harley quinn esque persona for serious issues and should probably just try to avoid them.

it sucks seeing these kind of women hurt themselves and it makes me doubly angry at froot for dragging them in just because she couldnt handle some corners of vtubers and viewers didnt like her and thought she fucked up way back when.
and she presents it in a weird way where it jumps around from early 2017 to January 2018
well thats the thing, you cant really trust how women like froot present things. i mean her cheating was "exercising her bodily autonomy" that was her framing for that. i think its very telling that alot of the vtubers defending her responding to push back cant rule it out or just accept that it happened. weve saw her turn her back on people for playing the wizard game while scamming trans charities (normally based but you know) and calling her "dearest brother" a faggot and a bitch and a delusional fag and she framed that as her being a gentle caring heckin wholesome ally.

now if he really really truly is exactly how she says maybe? itd at least certainly bump it down from a holy shit fuck this bitch to a more grey area sort of thing. and even then that still wouldnt account for how she was doing during the relationship. if her extreme actions were justified by an extreme action from him whos to say the chain doesnt go futher back?
Boy, Pippa is hard to watch nowadays. She’s become “generic pink VTuber #795”

Have we already reached the point where we can say “Old Pippa would make fun of New Pippa” like we did with Eminem?
well i mean pippa has explicitly said in her irl friend groups shes the one called a libtard or whatever and i always remember very little of her content being the crazy stuff or the "based stuff" usually its just watching curiosities like ralph or crazy locs or some bitch throwing shit up in a walmart with some good takes coloring that but not too overtly like a kirsche. i actually think she found a nice middleground at least personally between being entertaining and expressive but not getting banned or stirring things up

edit it did get a lot more tame though i blame the rekieta situation and others which showed that its probably for the best.
With how she sets it up, she couldn't. She was alone in the US without any friends, cut off from her family who was still a ocean away in Bongland, and had nothing of her own really. The story she paints is pretty shitty.
well i mean she did leave though and also iirc already had more than a few simps ready to support her.
 
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now if he really really truly is exactly how she says maybe? itd at least certainly bump it down from a holy shit fuck this bitch to a more grey area sort of thing. and even then that still wouldnt account for how she was doing during the relationship. if her extreme actions were justified by an extreme action from him whos to say the chain doesnt go futher back?
This is really where I get stumped, she leaves out alot of stuff that makes it difficult to even begin to start questioning if something is true or not. Cheating wasn't even mentioned in the Document, the part about "Bodily autonomy" is referring to a certain sex act I believe, she only mentions Cheating in regards to how he'd kill himself if she did cheat on him.
Reading the document has just left me with more questions than answers, I don't hate as Froot as much as I did before, but I'm just confused over what actually happened. As Trash said, unless we get his side of the story we probably won't even know for sure, but still is enough to make me wonder.
 
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heating wasn't even mentioned in the Document, the part about "Bodily autonomy" is referring to a certain sex act I believe, she only mentions Cheating in regards to how he'd kill himself if she did cheat on him.
she also refers to it when he says he wants any sex at all and might be driven to cheat in a different point in the document, which at this time froot was cheating. so basically she was cheating leaving him dry and that was her "bodily autonomy" so youre right she didnt mention it but rather omitted that detail which is still her trying to justify what she did as bodily autonomy.
 
I read it I just don't believe her, there's too many times she's talking in complete sentences and he just responds with emotes. Also Josh covered it on friday's stream and the big thing he noticed was it was all through facebook messenger as if they weren't in a real relationship like it was just a weird online thing.
The woman in this video sounds exactly like Towa-sama. Now I doubt Towa is married or a nurse like the dude in this video claims his wife is, but they sound identical!
Is it like an accent thing?
No it doesnt
 
Also Josh covered it on friday's stream and the big thing he noticed was it was all through facebook messenger as if they weren't in a real relationship like it was just a weird online thing.
I'm a bad Kiwi and don't watch Josh's streams, but that was actually something I noticed too and thought was odd. Discord existed in 2017 and these two seemed to just never communicate over texts, which did make me somewhat suspicious.
Watching through Ant-himes video has quickly made me realize many more holes in her story. First off, she was talking to her Troon sibling in January 2018, but posted about how disgusting Troons and said sibling was months later. In those same texts Froot said that said Ex-Husband broke up with her, yet they were still in business with each other for months afterwards?
I've lost my sympathy for Froot, the Doc got me feeling bad for her just to immediately have that taken away by 5 minutes of Ant-Himes video.
 
Boy, Pippa is hard to watch nowadays. She’s become “generic pink VTuber #795”

Have we already reached the point where we can say “Old Pippa would make fun of New Pippa” like we did with Eminem?
Treat Old Pippa like you would Perc Angle: be happy that she's doing far far better now, but you can also reminiscence about how good and crazy that run was.
 
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