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[Pixy]

We might yet get Glitch Productions-specific lolcows out of this.

 

[BigJoey41X]

According to goose on twitter it was Netflix themselves that approached Glitch about getting the series on to their platform, holy shit is this how much of a pull this show is getting that corpos are asking to be on the bandwagon?

It's extra funny because it feels like trannyworx knew this would happen. Case you didn't catch it before up until the finale premiered Goose was making posts being like "Okay MD fans please be chill." and made that post from a few pages ago saying some shit like "You better watch the finale or i'm gonna kill you with my car." or whatever. I'm thinking he absolutely saw this coming.

Goose is very friendly to Murder Drones, he semi-sarcastically asked if that series could be put on Netflix next, its nice seeing him stay humble.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

According to goose on twitter it was Netflix themselves that approached Glitch about getting the series on to their platform, holy shit is this how much of a pull this show is getting that corpos are asking to be on the bandwagon?

I think its because Amazon has Hazbin Hotel and Netflix saw that so they wanted to compete with Amazon

 

[Golly Bo-Bolly]

TADC getting put on Netflix was expected, a lot about TADC has been expected like any success story. Indie animation is, what this show now was, counter-culture of industry practice and the business, now these products are made and produced by people just like You™: Situational escapism with,any characters really, shallow or layered perfect for the absent minded to fill the gaps, and the special ingrediants of apathetic gospel and sudo-therapeutic sweet nothings for modern tragedies the youth discontented with life have ate up for decades, myself included. The diffrence is "youth" now refers to late twenty and thirty somethings rather than just grade school students and graduates, a larger audience, sure, but an audience formed from the fallout of two heavily chaotic presidential terms and a plague. The industry had to change for a brand new audience, new needs, new money and all this has for a fact affected who and what is expressed today. There is a why-and-how for everything popular in entertainment but the problem is that now indie animation is in the same position that is also new to the industry, a house of cards rather than a bubble. As much as people and the world have changed, everything leading up to this must not for its future. The scariest thing about TADC isn't how fast it got popular, it'll be how fast it and the modern concept of indie animation will be forgotten.

 

[BigJoey41X]

nigga what the FUCK are you talking about

its just a cute little show about some souls trapped in a janky 90's game, you don't need to see it as what it says about our society or some shit

 

[Vecr]

sudo-therapeutic sweet nothings for modern tragedies the youth discontented with life have ate up for decades

Yeah I guess.

The diffrence is "youth" now refers to late twenty and thirty somethings rather than just grade school students and graduates, a larger audience, sure, but an audience formed from the fallout of two heavily chaotic presidential terms and a plague. The industry had to change for a brand new audience, new needs, new money and all this has for a fact affected who and what is expressed today. There is a why-and-how for everything popular in entertainment but the problem is that now indie animation is in the same position that is also new to the industry, a house of cards rather than a bubble. As much as people and the world have changed, everything leading up to this must not for its future. The scariest thing about TADC isn't how fast it got popular, it'll be how fast it and the modern concept of indie animation will be forgotten.

Where did you get this supposed information?

 

[Chilson]

According to goose on twitter it was Netflix themselves that approached Glitch about getting the series on to their platform, holy shit is this how much of a pull this show is getting that corpos are asking to be on the bandwagon?

I imagine the apparent success of Hazbin Hotel on Amazon really put sand in Netflix's craw and they jumped on the next animated online mega hit as quickly as possible.

 

[Golly Bo-Bolly]

It sounds like making mountains out of mole hills but I wanted to say everything about indie animation a year in its stride. I see its creators and its audience in perfect sync after a decade of building up and adapting and compromising, meaning whatever the next thing as big or bigger than TADC will have none of the people in this scene in it. Maybe I've watched too much of the good video essays, read too much books like Saving Cinderella and The Simpsons and Philosophy, and the booklets in Criterion Collection disc cases. I'll be more snappy and direct next rant.

 

[Vecr]

It sounds like making mountains out of mole hills but I wanted to say everything about indie animation a year in its stride. I see its creators and its audience in perfect sync after a decade of building up and adapting and compromising, meaning whatever the next thing as big or bigger than TADC will have none of the people in this scene in it. Maybe I've watched too much of the good video essays, read too much books like Saving Cinderella and The Simpsons and Philosophy, and the booklets in Criterion Collection disc cases. I'll be more snappy and direct next rant.

Is the next online children's cartoon going to complete German Idealism? We keep getting near misses (TADC Jax, My Little Pony), but are we hitting a tipping point?

 

[An Account]

The Tranny that created Digital Circus used trepanation to contact dark spirits to make their mediocre indie cartoon a massive success at the cost of it being a horrific corrupting influence upon the youth. Prove me wrong.

 

[GoodWinSon]

I'm late to the Murder Drones sperging, but I didn't see anyone talk about the best character in the show:

Spoiler

Mitchell the Intern


>Shows up to work in his boss' uniform
>Is thrust into a position he's severely underqualified for
>Still does a decent job anyway
>Is intelligent enough to discern when Cyn is using holographic images
>Tries to protect others from Cyn
>Leaves and is never seen again

With minimal screen time and dialogue, this borderline background character is the most well written character in MD, simply by not being written with any intrusive "jokes". Goes to show how much the show was brought down by its zoomer irony and general unseriousness.

 

[Lankybox Enjoyer]

I'm late to the Murder Drones sperging, but I didn't see anyone talk about the best character in the show:

Spoiler

Mitchell the Intern

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>Shows up to work in his boss' uniform
>Is thrust into a position he's severely underqualified for
>Still does a decent job anyway
>Is intelligent enough to discern when Cyn is using holographic images
>Tries to protect others from Cyn
>Leaves and is never seen again

With minimal screen time and dialogue, this borderline background character is the most well written character in MD, simply by not being written with any intrusive "jokes". Goes to show how much the show was brought down by its zoomer irony and general unseriousness.

100% agree. Episode 7 in general sucked so it was really surprising to revisit the episode and generally liking all of the flashback scenes. Doll's mom was also good, although that may be because she didn't really say anything if I remember correctly. I think what really made those scenes good was that it wasn't too focused on bullshit lore and that it had a serious tone that was actually intense. Even him surviving has shockingly well done, with the first part of the scene at the beginning implying he died just to continue the scene later to reveal he was saved by Doll's mom. For a character that was meant to be a one off punchline to be killed off in a lore reveal, he is shockingly well written, at least for Murder Drones standards.

 

[Bob Barbas]

Okay I have to say something because I've either seen the same post multiple times somehow or I've seen multiple people post the same thing but I keep seeing.
"We need more complex female characters!"
"You guys couldn't even handle Uzi Doorman!"
Just... what? Do people genuinely think Murder Drones characters are complex? They're not. If anything they're all mostly stereotypical archetypes. Didn't really find any of them to have much complexity, in fact I'd argue that was one of the things really wrong with the series. These characters are about as deep as a puddle.

Or am I a retard and reading it wrong and they're saying Uzi is such a non-complex character yet people still don't like her or something? Which in that case it's because she's poorly written like everyone else in this show, not because she's a "Female character."
This fandom just baffles me man.

 

[BigJoey41X]

Okay I have to say something because I've either seen the same post multiple times somehow or I've seen multiple people post the same thing but I keep seeing.
"We need more complex female characters!"
"You guys couldn't even handle Uzi Doorman!"
Just... what? Do people genuinely think Murder Drones characters are complex? They're not. If anything they're all mostly stereotypical archetypes. Didn't really find any of them to have much complexity, in fact I'd argue that was one of the things really wrong with the series. These characters are about as deep as a puddle.

Who the fuck is saying this?, is it those faggots on /co/ again?, those are the only people i get to see who say the characters are good, at least the subreddit usually doesn't pretend thats the case.

let's actually dissect how shallow Uzi is as a character, by that we'll take a take at her trajectory as the events of the show unfolded around her.

We're also going to ignore the stupid and shitty meta jokes that break the suspension of disbelief, just for the sake of treating her as an actual person.

Spoiler: EXTREME SPERGING FOR A ONE-DIMENSIONAL CHARACTER: READER DISCRETION IS ADVISED

Uzi Doorman starts out the show as an VERY angsty emo outcast who is standoffish to a lot of people, with the exception of her dad and occasionally Thad, most of her peers either hate her guts or don't care to even acknowledge her existence, her isolation from most of the colony's population is essentially a negative feedback loop that results in her sperging out against everyone else making Uzi become even more of a pariah, this actually could have been a good emotional and character-driven plotline of Uzi learning to calm herself down and try to be a reformed woman, gradually earning the respect and validation she badly wanted from her community.

This never happens, as the most of the WDs were treated as nothing more than one-note comedy bits.

Skipping to the end of Ep1, Uzi eventually has had enough, after inadvertently getting some of the WDF members killed, and becoming broken after her own father left her to die, she imposes a self-exile on herself and...teams up with the DDs what?, she talked to N for a few minutes at most by this point, even if he's somewhat on-board with what she told him (he and his squad was being lied to by "The Company"), just the inherent risk of being near someone who is programmed to kill you defies all logic AND is also completely out of character, this is the same girl that built a railgun for the express purpose of killing the things that took her mother away NOW pivots to teaming up with them?, HUH?!, even if she knows the "humans" were the greater evil all along, the Disassemblers aren't gonna stop killing and eating her own kind.

LV created the conflict of making WDs be terrorized by the DDs, but once again, he couldn't fucking commit to it, just sort of casually brushed off the whole thing as the solver took higher priorities, I don't think he knew how the gravity of soft-retconning of an established conflict like that will KILL the narrative, as it essentially stops the thing that was supposed to be driving the story forward dead in its tracks to shift its gears to a another direction.

A much more sensible way to put this is to let Uzi be a lone angsty wolf at the end of the pilot, then when Cyn emerges in Copper-9 via J in episode 2, both the WDs and DDs, in a rare moment of having a common enemy, team up for get rid of the damn thing, that way it makes sense for Uzi and N to join forces again and start the (still weary) "friendship" proper.

Speaking of episode 2, that episode backtracked the whole exile thing off and Uzi returns to the bunker, I'm not even sure why they aborted the plotline in the first place when this barely affected Uzi's standing with the rest of the colony

Episode 3 is more about the plot-stuff, Uzi doesn't have much here with the exception of starting the Nuzi sideplot romance, i've already said what I thought of this ship, which was a solid meh, the show was just to shit to truly be enjoyed.

Episode 4 is a big one for Uzi's "development", this is where she finally awakens her witch powers and in her enraged state, kills 5 of her classmates outside of her control (may I remind you people that there is basically no reason her class had to be involved here, N and V can fly her to CF labs just fine), this is interesting in that after the rampage, Uzi feels actually feels realistic, human-like feelings of guilt and angst, as she should be, and then N is there to comfort her and tell her that its okay, this is looking good right?

LOL, NOPE!, literally nobody ever gave a fuck about the fact that multiple students just got killed, and there were plenty of survivors who lived to tell the tale, and next episode she's still residing in her bunker room with her fellow DD friends.

Isn't it amazing that such a heavy and emotional moment was basically ignored?, as that incident was never mentioned ever again, and Uzi certainly didn't get any lasting effects from that experience, as she was completely fine and remained the same person as she always was.

This is the one chance they can give Uzi much more depth here to change from "generic angsty teen" to "psychologically fucked up girl that has to deal with the ramifications of her crimes and newfound powers" and they completely fucked it up, 100%.

Episode 5, 6, and 7 is again, plot-heavy stuff, the only things to note for her is Nuzi getting confirmed in Dead End (wooooooo....), Uzi also getting slowly being taken over by Cyn, and reuniting with her Mom, but because at this point the plot is speeding itself to the end, we never got that big wholesome moment of Uzi finally getting a happy moment with her.

Episode 8 is an interesting one, specifically in the epilogue section, we are back to the class presentation, Uzi and co. won and with the added bonus acquiring Cyn's solver shit, she shows no remorse for anything she ever did, even going as far as showing off her powers to the classmates that saw first hand how it killed their peers, yeah really.

To conclude this big ol' essay: Uzi Doorman starts from angsty emo girl to psychopathic goddess.
Yeah, real nice "Character" you got there.

 

[BigJoey41X]

Fuck it, might as well give my thoughts on N and V too while were at it

Spoiler: Extreme Sperging 2: Electric Boogaloo

N is a main character that acts like a side character, aside from a couple moments such as him turning against his squad, trying to comfort Uzi, and slicing off "Tessa's" head, he feels like he's just stands there and adds nothing of substance to the story at all, until the time for action comes, and thats the problem, outside of that he's just nothing but "nice guy", he starts the show as a complete doormat, which COULD be a good character arc for him, learning to stand up and take a more active role in not just the plot, but for character moments too, that high-up sky scene with Uzi was genuinely good scene, too bad it was nothing more than a one-off.

You people know how people complain in some shows that the female characters seem to be nothing more than love interests for the MCs?, well N is the very rare male example of that exact archetype, there's this one comment that I can't figure where it came from that perfectly described him:
"N is just Uzi's accessory bf".

As for V, her whole deal is being this outwardly terrible person that is an asshole to everyone, but is secretly hiding something, both as a cope with trauma as the only person that retained her memories and to protect N from the knowledge of "it", this is a potentially good character arc for her, learning to gradually open herself up more to Uzi and N.

The only problem is, this was, once again, badly mishandled, for the first 4 episodes, she's an unrepentant asshole to everyone with hints that she's hiding something, she also starts a weird friendship (and possibly relationship) with Lizzy, completely offscreen, nothing is ever explained about how it came to that, then, between episodes 4 and 5, she finally agrees to let Uzi and N know about their pasts in the manor, you know?, the thing she was trying to hide from N all along?, it was just up and resolved offscreen, let me repeat that, a major character beat HAPPENED OFFSCREEN, holy shit dude.

Then episode 6 happens with all the sad sacrifice scene and shit, it does not fucking work on me when she spent most of her runtime being an aggressive bitch that often becomes violent with no redeemable traits, and NOW you to feel bad for her and expect me to feel sorry like fuck off LV, virtually the entire MD fandom was sad over this, it was the one thing that they had a universally agreed viewpoint on

LIKE HOW?!, I don't consider myself as someone with particularly high standards for character writing but even I noticed something was off about this, you have to ignore a lot of things about V to be emotional abut that.

And then she's gone for one episode before coming back in ep8, really cheapens the whole sacrifice thing, Murder Drones likes faking out death way too hard for its own good but this is easily the most egregious, V honestly should have stayed dead, it would have V actually feel like she redeemed herself of her past transgressions and crimes, but nah fuck that.

By the end of the show, I guess she's far less aggressive than before, but even then, the whole arc feels unearned with how she (and the rest of the cast) got away with it happily ever after, and there are basically no character moments once she returned, no making up with N and Uzi once the dust settled down, another victim of how quickly the show rushed to the end.

TL;DR: Murder Drones, through how bad it mishandled its characters, is an emotionally hollow show, sure, it looks cool and there's a lot of awesome shit happening on screen, but when you peel just a single layer, there's not much to be found.

 

[Bob Barbas]

Saw this reposted somewhere else.

"Liam felt he was finished with the story."

Okay I think this might just confirm to me Liam is a fucking retard. Nigger there was barely even a fucking story to begin with. You can't finish something that was barely there in the first place.

 

[Lankybox Enjoyer]

Saw this reposted somewhere else.
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"Liam felt he was finished with the story."

Okay I think this might just confirm to me Liam is a fucking retard. Nigger there was barely even a fucking story to begin with. You can't finish something that was barely there in the first place.

The more I learn about Murder Drones the more I am shocked that it even got greenlit in the first place. I get that Liam had his fans, but it couldn't be so much that they were willing to go through with a show that clearly had zero direction. It took an entire year to create episode two of the series and episode one of the series filtered out a huge chunk of watchers. Even the ones who stayed were left with an underwhelming show that only really shined in its alright action and mediocre character moments. It's likely that if Murder Drones wasn't Glitch's first real show, it would have never been given the greenlight.

Also, reminder that Murder Drones was funded by Australian tax dollars.

 

[The Luigi Player]

I dislike the shows GLITCH produces and I hate the creators for different reasons (tranny drill fetishist, defending the VAUSH, and scammer).

 

[Bob Barbas]

I dislike the shows GLITCH produces and I hate the creators for different reasons (tranny drill fetishist, defending the VAUSH, and scammer).

Is Liam one of those? If so I'm curious and would enjoy context.
Would be nice to have something to talk about besides his shit writing skills for once.

 

[GoodWinSon]

"Liam felt he was finished with the story."

I find this statement hard to believe. Vicker's himself admitted he couldn't fit in everything he wanted, and there is ample evidence that suggests Murder Drones has a troubled production cycle. Heck, the show even pulls a Helluva Boss by almost completely throwing out the premise set up in the pilot. Except Helluva Boss at least had a few episodes before it went full gay melodrama, and even then they're currently putting out shorts which actually follow what the pilot established.

To give Gooseworx the benefit of the doubt, the decision to end the series after episode 8 might have been mutual, but in the sense that everyone came to the realization that a second season probably wasn't worth the resources, and manhours. Of course even then, they probably wouldn't want to admit that publicly, given that MD remains quite popular among dedicated fans.

That aside, I find it strange that Gooseworx of all people is commenting on Murder Drones' production. For a company that has pretensions of professionalism, you'd think they'd select someone directly involved in Murder Drones to answer questions, or at the very least, someone in management.