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in hopes that the PR people will be enough of a power to overtake Trump or some shit
He's huge with Latinos in NYC and philly, which really should be worrying if Democrats are that scared of losing NY or PA.
I'll just be happy to see two White guys on a tv screen at the same time, feels like it's been forever.
Literally 4 months ago.
 
I really hate this stupid false dichotomy. The notion that you can’t take care of immigrants without also wanting a secure border makes me very MATI.
As a Texas State Legislator I had the privilege of seeing speak said, “I want to give them medical aid, food, water, clothing, and instructions to head to the legal port of entry.”
 
I once said a long time ago that the Right Wing and Arabs coming into this nation and pozzing it will band together. They despise the left and LGTBQ garbage along with the feminist crap. They'll unite to eradicate their perceived enemy.

Between this and gang violence breaking out in Chicago, pretty much every prediction I've had has come true. Pray my last one regarding the election won't come true.
For a while, I felt the same way, but I would be cautious about that prediction as I feel like the Dems have managed to keep a decent level of control over the portions of Muslims they do have. I could be way off base, but I feel like they omit their pozzed messaging when they're speaking to them. As long as you tell Muslims what they want to hear, they will vote left knowing that they can bully white liberals into dropping gender/gay shit for their specific communities. I feel like Muslims know by now that if they vote left, they are basically voting for the right to govern themselves, versus if they vote right, they "might" not get the same level of freedom.

I’m convinced the only backing behind Kamala and Walz is the CCP, the stuff she’s saying would make even Hillary blush.
I mean it literally doesn't matter at all who backs them. We have seen that they could do absolutely nothing and still get 70-80 million votes. Vote blue no matter who is a law of nature at this point and even if their rally's are empty it should not be underestimated just how many people will still vote for them. The lines are already drawn and at this point all we are fighting for is maybe 100,000 independent votes across a handful of swing states. Like it's literally just a battle between the Democrats lying and promising outrageous shit to everyone, and the right trying to remind retards that their lives are behind destroyed by inflation, the economy, immigration, etc.
 
I'm actually excited since both Walz and Vance seem more put together than their superiors. This will be an actual debate and not a drunk and an old man shouting talking point to at each other.
That all depends on the moderators.

Don't be shocked if the moderators keep asking Vance questions about Trump. Or ask about the "childless cat lady" comment.

I don't doubt for a second that Vance would demolish Walz in a debate, but will the debate actually cover policy this time ... Or will it just become another "Reee! Orange Man Bad!" discussion?
 
Democrats require a slave class. Blacks kill themselves and their offspring at too high a rate to satisfy Dem needs so they're importing others. It's really that simple.
Couldn't had said it better myself. Dark comedy aside, the 13/50 meme is quite elaborate in execution of how to control demographics. Whatever Blacks left would be ripe for the picking as political puppets. It's beneficial for migrants to flood red states to drive down prices and increase lower quality of living. Then, they can point and say: SEE, red states have higher crime rates!
 
From my perspective I see Western societies entering the end of a bloody but pretty sweet period of growth and resource exploitation starting with the industrial age.
I see western civilization as a victim of its own civility. We can't execute people anymore, can't deport, can't punish correctly because its too mean and insensitive. Degeneracy is tolerated too much, rule of law isn't enforced... The UK is a good example where you can't criticize the feral arabs creating no-go zones, so the solution is the punish those who speak out and continue importing them. I feel western civ will either fall to the hordes or another French revolution movement will happen with the widening inequality thats continuing in the western counties.
 
I can understand being a principled leftist or blue dog democrat, but I'm curious how does one justify bringing in tens of millions of people, granting them magic asylum, free housing, free EBT, etc while normal citizens increasingly can't afford to own homes, start families, etc? I assume you are some sort of principled leftist how can these last 4 years be excused to any degree, assuming you participate in such excuses?

We have LITERALLY had a dementia patient in the highest office for 4 years and what is going on at the border is a literal invasion being done at the expense of legal citizens. His entire staff is full of people like mayorkis who dedicate their every day to making the average tax payer's life worse while benefitting people who just waltz in from the southern border. It isn't even mexicans coming in through mexico anymore, its venezuelians, chinese, hondorians, etc. All people who could find asylum in one of the various countries they pass through to come to america.

Its one thing to come here as a legitimate refugee, my own family a few generations back did so to escape the red army. But they never got handouts and tax dollars they had to work hard for the life they got.

none got democrat supplied free luxury hotels, free food cards, free debit cards, etc. My family had to learn english and assimilate something none of these "asylum seekers" pouring in by the millions are doing.
‘To explain the situation from my perspective, I have to clarify several beliefs I’ve held from childhood.
1. I’ve always been aware that demographics of societies would change with increasing globalization and interracial breeding.
2. I’ve always been cognizant that introductions of immigrant groups would require an adjustment period possibly spanning generations to assimilate the different cultures.
3. I have never believed cultures remain static. Neither Chinese, Egyptian, British. Roman, Russian, Nordic, insert group here are peoples that have maintained one monolithic culture for thousands of years. As different groups competed and combined like the Normans and Anglos for instance, new mixes of cultures came to fruition. I don’t see America absorbing and adapting to different cultures as a negative thing unless what it is changing into is negative in values or progress.

Now, America has in its existence always been an immigrant society. There has never been a time when it hasn’t been absorbing new people from around the world. And it isn’t even a modern idea to import cheap labor to subsume homegrown workers to save money on wages and influence politics. The slave trade and Chinese migrations were absolutely about that and the rich and powerful will continue importing as it suits them because it diminishes the masses ability to organize. Even Trump himself just the other day worked to get and received a proud endorsement from a Muslim mayor running a city with a Muslim city council. Considering he is running on things like the deportation, protecting Americans from the nasty other people, and even pushed the Muslim travel ban, doesn’t it seem odd he would accept such a ‘honor’?

As to the pampering of migrants over struggling American families I do have quite an issue with that and wish I believed either candidate would actually address it but as we see in Ohio with the Republican governor and Republican mayor and even a current VP candidate in JD Vance who should have known this was an issue but said nothing until it became a talking point to utilize, I don’t think much will actually be done to fix the problem comprehensively. Now I’m sure a Trump administration would do something that would tangentially effect these migrants getting handouts like cut federal programs and the like, but I doubt he will be able to actually help struggling families like requiring those funds go to them especially since he is going to have to go on quite a budget cutting spree to afford all the tax cuts and government shrinkage he wants. I severely doubt he’ll find funding to invest in the extreme deportations he is promising so what I see happening is a bunch of migrants of differing degrees of validity being dumped on the streets already full of homeless causing skyrocketing crime rates and mayhem. I do not like the fact the Democratic Party has no answer for this problem either but I don't see either side really wanting to stop it. But at least with Harris there is a possibility of a federal government infrastructure program to create jobs and fix the shitload of decaying cities and roads we have and if we have jobs we have money which mean people can move. Ultimately what i would like to see is a second push to build new cities and towns and settle vast tracts of the country that are basically empty like Wyoming and Ohio and such much like was done in the 1800s. I think that would vastly help ameliorate the issue of migrants being dumped on towns like Springfield.

The biggest issues for me as a liberal is keeping the average American worker safe, secure, and protected. For instance I don’t know how many people have read up on life before such things as unions, child labor laws, the five day work week, and OSHA but I do not want a return to the days when an employee’s life was a cheap clump of shit to discard whenever a supervisor felt like it. But sure enough bullshit legislation like Right to Work, union busting, and dismantlement of the FDA, OSHA, and other regulatory bodies and systems that are meant to keep the public safe from corporate greed and malfeasance is literally part of the Trump agenda. He fucking laughed about being able to discard employees like chattel with his buddy Elon! Now I understand any federal body is imperfect and ripe for bribery and grift, but I do not see the solution as being the elimination of those institutions and hoping the billion dollar CEO gives a fuck if his workers get time off or the meat supply is kept adequately stored. I’d rather seek reform and constant auditing of those bodies to investigate and curb any underhanded fuckers not doing their job. Again neither entity addresses this issue but at least with Harris I know there will be an OSHA to require workers get PPE to protect themselves!

I also denounce the Trickle Down 2.0 approach Trump proposes to fix the economy. I do not believe the rich and powerful will take whatever savings they are given and piss it back down on us little people. I believe they will do the same fucking thing they always do, hoard more and more like the greedy lil kikes they are. So Harris’ proposals to enforce tax increases on the rich and reinvest it into programs to help the middle class sound better to me. Either way we have to fix the widening income inequality we face today and nothing Trump has suggested reads to me as anything like restoring the middle class or helping those in poverty. His solutions are to fuck up the federal government and pass the savings on to us but who is going to fix the infrastructure, maintain the federal bureaucracy, protect the public from corporation, or advocate for the American people if their is no federal government? State governments are too small and full of issues on their own to address the needs of a nation and especially on the world stage where we have massive investments, treaties, and connections we need a strong Washington to represent the people. Dividing the nation into 50 tinier voices only makes us weaker and easier to manipulate. It benefits only the wealthy and their businesses to break the people apart.

Holy shit this is way longer than I intended. If you read that rambling diatribe just realize these are the free thought writings I came up with to explain as succinctly as possible my viewpoints on society at large. It is neither in depth nor meant to be a definitive ‘this is how to fix society in one simple shitpost’. I am simply a dumbass person of probably average intelligence and quite able and likely to be wrong about many things. You kind of have to accept that since no one knows everything even though we like to pretend we do. Ultimately, and I guess this will explain why I choose who I support, if my beliefs of what will best advance humanity are wrong, who do I believe will cause more misery overall is what makes or break my voting choices. Do I side with Trump who believes if we regress back to an unsustainable lifestyle of a century ago when women were unable to own bank accounts and say no to being raped by their husbands is the way to go? Or do I side with Kamala, who is pretty much going not to even be able to do much in our divided political atmosphere but try to fight for small businesses and those impoverished? To me the answer is the latter though I fully expect to be disappointed several times as lobbyists, self-interest, and corruption are literally part and parcel of both parties. At least there will be some voice advocating for ideals I believe in even if I’m not completely off the reservation and 100% woke.

But I’m just a dumb libtard so feel free to disregard everything I presented. Honestly like I said if Trump wins I welcome him to try fixing the economic and political problems he has coming up with a fractured government and half the nation hating him. They both have that problem really
 
I really hate that I have to agree with the Demographics is Destiny spergs, but it really is true that the more third worlders you get, whether it's the Internet, culture at large, or a country, the worse everything is.

I wish I could deny basic pattern recognition but I can't.
Honestly that’s what happened to me too. It wasn’t groyper memes on Twitter, it was cluelessly moving into a new construction house in what turned out to be an Intel corporate neighborhood for the higher salary h1b jeets and changs.
Six years of living there as the only white family in a several block radius turned me from a mild mannered “one race, the human race” respecter to a full on ethno-nationalist. It was like “so this is the BEST case scenario for demographic change; highish IQ white collar families making six figures - and it’s a fucking nightmare to live in and even worse for raising kids.”
 
Okay I gotta ask because the Trump train is going to end eventually and Loomer calling out 99% of the GOP as useless idiots has me wondering, what happens when Don Juan hangs up his MAGA hat and calls it a day? Where does the movement go from there? Vance? DeSantis? One of Trump’s kids? Some social media retard? I ask because nobody seems especially loved outside Donald and if that really is the last gasp for the alt right I’m kinda okay if he wins because it’s just gonna be a repeat of his first term with half his promises never happening and people pretending things are great now. Maybe with more assassination attempts. And with the way the economy is going he is welcome to that coming train wreck.
Realistically the only ones I can see inheriting Trump's Cult of Personality would be his kids, and even then it wouldn't be the same. That said, it doesn't mean the others wouldn't have a shot at the Presidency, it's just that they all feel more like "normal politicians" compared to Donald Trump.
Vance should probably hold off until 2032 at minimum since I have a gut feeling that running immediately after Trump would be a bad idea, DeSantis could try to pull a Reagan (as in, try again after failing to secure the nomination on his first go), and the only "social media retard" I could see getting anywhere would be Tucker. Kennedy also exists, but it's an unfortunate fact of life that he's essentially a nonentity unless he switches affiliation to GOP.
 
Don't jump to conclusions. The ATF is probably going to use her to flip on the shop owner.
Maybe.

Everything else about Haitians in Ohio so far has stunk to high heaven. Nobody got sent to the penis explosion chamber over Fast and Furious. I reserve the right to be suspicious and cynical in any matter involving the ATF.

Uh no. It meant you shooting a guy's engine block and shooting people. Blue curtain shit is fucking gay reasoning. You chose those words for a reason. I'm not stupid and you aren't clever. @Useful_Mistake please sort this mess out.
Are you starting to get this vibe, too?
 
Are you starting to get this vibe, too?
Yes. This is why I'm glad I used 4chan before I migrated to the farms. I've gained the ability to smell a glowie from a mile away because I've seen them fuck with threads before. It's a election year, they're out in force. Keep your eyes open.
 
I know some of this has been batted around on here recently, not sure the extent as this thread moves so fast, but what is everyone's thoughts on the P Diddy (im embarrased to type that) videos and all of this celebrity implication. My X homepage is blowing up all day with more stories that if true are horrific, but I still am wary of all of this "breaking news" and "major news coming" stuff we see everyday with no results. What do yall think about all of this?

I know these people are all demons and do horrific things in private, but are we really close to getting the truth out on this?
 
Everything else about Haitians in Ohio so far has stunk to high heaven. Nobody got sent to the penis explosion chamber over Fast and Furious. I reserve the right to be suspicious and cynical in any matter involving the ATF.
What happened is the ATF office in Phoenix did the gunwalking and, believe it or not, the rest of the ATF went "what the fuck?" and it resulted in a huge internal investigation before it even became public. All the while, the program continued and did not terminate until the story broke publicly. I think that no one went to prison because, technically, everybody followed the existing rules at the time.
 
Yes. This is why I'm glad I used 4chan before I migrated to the farms. I've gained the ability to smell a glowie from a mile away because I've seen them fuck with threads before. It's a election year, they're out in force. Keep your eyes open.
I rarely get to see them in action, I usually only see it second hand or third hand.
 

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Yes. This is why I'm glad I used 4chan before I migrated to the farms. I've gained the ability to smell a glowie from a mile away because I've seen them fuck with threads before. It's an election year, they're out in force. Keep your eyes open.
To be fair the idiot is literally asking how to commit crimes on a public forum. I know glowies and their handlers have degraded in quality since the Halcyon days of COINTELPRO but I think they are slightly able to mask themselves better most of the time. Either this is just a retard LARPing for attention or i need to lower my expectations of the FBI to near the point it just becomes a singularity of Subterfuge.
 
I know some of this has been batted around on here recently, not sure the extent as this thread moves so fast, but what is everyone's thoughts on the P Diddy (im embarrased to type that) videos and all of this celebrity implication. My X homepage is blowing up all day with more stories that if true are horrific, but I still am wary of all of this "breaking news" and "major news coming" stuff we see everyday with no results. What do yall think about all of this?

I know these people are all demons and do horrific things in private, but are we really close to getting the truth out on this?
Diddy is basically Black Epstein except he surrounded himself with celebrities rather then politically important people. Right now it's a matter of individuals in the acting and music industry saying they were "unaware" of Diddy's illegal activities.
 
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