Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[William Murderface]

Why is there even an idea for a trilogy for Obi-Wan? There shouldn't even have been a tv series. It wasn't that hard to figure out: Obi-Wan goes to ground in the ass end of the galaxy, watches over Luke but nothing ever really happens for the next 20 years, Vader runs around being the Emperor's hatcheman/troubleshooter and when he has spare time he hunts down the remaining Jedi until all that's left are Yoda and Obi-Wan. Kenobi never leaves Tatooine, never meets up with Leia, never fights Vader before the Death Star, he gets old and rusty until one day he rescues Luke from some Sand People and meets R2 again and Ep 4 happens.

Of course, that can't possibly be Obi-Wan's story. He needs to leave Tatooine and go on adventures. Yoda needs to leave Dagobah and go on adventures. Leia needs to go on Girl Boss adventures. We need more lightsaber fights and flipping aliens and droids and shit we can turn into new action figures.

 

[Judas Connor Moon]

I watched this Bri'ish man complain about the Acolyte for 3 hours at 1.5 speed. It's a good video and the fact there's is whip sabers now... oof...

 

[LovisXVI]

the fact there's is whip sabers now... oof...

Not new at all. Rather another instance of something done well before, now done badly.

 

[Sneedmiser]

Not new at all. Rather another instance of something done well before, now done badly.
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Let's not jump the gun and call the 70s Marvel comics good. That whip did try to work, at least, but Lumiya is such a hot mess of a character I'm almost surprised she wasn't in Rebels. Though apparently an Emperor's Hand is just a governor who's not particularly competent nor loyal to the Emperor now, since generic evil Mandalorian #18282913 who lost a fight to a teenage girl is one.

 

[King Dead]

Why is there even an idea for a trilogy for Obi-Wan? There shouldn't even have been a tv series. It wasn't that hard to figure out: Obi-Wan goes to ground in the ass end of the galaxy, watches over Luke but nothing ever really happens for the next 20 years, Vader runs around being the Emperor's hatcheman/troubleshooter and when he has spare time he hunts down the remaining Jedi until all that's left are Yoda and Obi-Wan. Kenobi never leaves Tatooine, never meets up with Leia, never fights Vader before the Death Star, he gets old and rusty until one day he rescues Luke from some Sand People and meets R2 again and Ep 4 happens.

Of course, that can't possibly be Obi-Wan's story. He needs to leave Tatooine and go on adventures. Yoda needs to leave Dagobah and go on adventures. Leia needs to go on Girl Boss adventures. We need more lightsaber fights and flipping aliens and droids and shit we can turn into new action figures.

If you were going to tell the story of what happened with Obi-Wan between the PT and the OT, you're right, you would have to keep it small scale. There's some local conflict on Tatooine, something that Obi-Wan gets dragged into, probably reluctantly. He has to solve the problem without revealing the fact he's a Jedi, using his wits instead of hacking things to pieces with a lightsaber. It would be slower paced and not really flashy, but the potential for a good story is there.

Problem is, a story like that wouldn't have all the pandering memberberries that "fans" want (read: can be merchandised), so it'd never happen. That's why they took the dumb "Obi-Wan has adventures with kid Leia and fights Vader and look at all the things you recognize!" route, and the result was just as bad as everyone figured it'd be. I know I'm preaching to the choir, but Disney's writers are just that stupid.

 

[Ghostse]

It's also a production run by women, so it probably got absorbed in shopping, fine dining, and real estate.

K-pop merch.

 

[LovisXVI]

Let's not jump the gun and call the 70s Marvel comics good. That whip did try to work, at least, but Lumiya is such a hot mess of a character I'm almost surprised she wasn't in Rebels. Though apparently an Emperor's Hand is just a governor who's not particularly competent nor loyal to the Emperor now, since generic evil Mandalorian #18282913 who lost a fight to a teenage girl is one.

Would never defend the Marvel Star Wars comics, new or old, needed an image to demonstrate. Lightwhips are cool, but I at least like Lumiya in theory, which is more than I can say for the Disney dogshit, which I like neither in theory, nor in practice.

 

[The handsome tard]

Why is there even an idea for a trilogy for Obi-Wan? There shouldn't even have been a tv series. It wasn't that hard to figure out: Obi-Wan goes to ground in the ass end of the galaxy, watches over Luke but nothing ever really happens for the next 20 years, Vader runs around being the Emperor's hatcheman/troubleshooter and when he has spare time he hunts down the remaining Jedi until all that's left are Yoda and Obi-Wan. Kenobi never leaves Tatooine, never meets up with Leia, never fights Vader before the Death Star, he gets old and rusty until one day he rescues Luke from some Sand People and meets R2 again and Ep 4 happens.

Of course, that can't possibly be Obi-Wan's story. He needs to leave Tatooine and go on adventures. Yoda needs to leave Dagobah and go on adventures. Leia needs to go on Girl Boss adventures. We need more lightsaber fights and flipping aliens and droids and shit we can turn into new action figures.

 

[Judge Holden]

Maybe Obi-wan could use that h*ckin awesome time travel portal Filoni brought into canon to have multiple seasons worth of nostalgic and diverse and inclusive adventures through the Sequel Era and own the Chuds by having Rey and that retarded black chick from [INSERT NU-WARS SERIES HERE] be the real heroes while he bumbles around ineptly...

...no wait nevermind I retract my sarcasm because every fucking time I make a sarcastic comment like this, the Dimensional Merge sees to it that something an order of magnitude worse happens instead, i.e. LAWD DEM RAAAANGZ deciding to introduce a Sauron, Galadriel, and as of yesterday Elrond love triangle because fuck me specifically.

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

I never thought that Mandolarian's as a culture was ever interesting. The Fett's are cool and maybe one or two other Mandos

 

[Screamer_2]

I never thought that Mandolarian's as a culture was ever interesting. The Fett's are cool and maybe one or two other Mandos

It's so retarded so much of the show is spent around the culture and it being some retarded religious sect. I don't know clone wars, like the majority of people. So it's really all just non-sense.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

It's so retarded so much of the show is spent around the culture and it being some retarded religious sect. I don't know clone wars, like the majority of people. So it's really all just non-sense.

It's the execution, it always is with Disney Wars. Exploring the religious side of Star Wars, given that Jedi-ism and the corresponding Sith Heresy are actual things, should be pretty straightforward. But they can't (or won't) model an actual religion so it's all just surface level.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I never thought that Mandolarian's as a culture was ever interesting. The Fett's are cool and maybe one or two other Mandos

Depends on the era. KOTOR Mandos were interesting because they never apologized for their war crimes and TBF, when the Old Republic's plan was to hide planetary shield generators in cities, blowing up the city is necessary at that point. I have a hard time remembering Traviss Mandos despite having read the Republic Commando books. Mandos in Filoniwars are annoying as fuck because of how inconsistent they are. In TCW, most of them were neutral NPCs under the Duchess Satine while Death Watch was a terrorist organization that briefly seized power by working with Darth Maul and in Mandalorian, the Mandos are dumb enough to follow Bo Katan, whom was directly responsibly for the fall of their civilization.

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

Depends on the era. KOTOR Mandos were interesting because they never apologized for their war crimes and TBF, when the Old Republic's plan was to hide planetary shield generators in cities, blowing up the city is necessary at that point. I have a hard time remembering Traviss Mandos despite having read the Republic Commando books. Mandos in Filoniwars are annoying as fuck because of how inconsistent they are. In TCW, most of them were neutral NPCs under the Duchess Satine while Death Watch was a terrorist organization that briefly seized power by working with Darth Maul and in Mandalorian, the Mandos are dumb enough to follow Bo Katan, whom was directly responsibly for the fall of their civilization.

Bo-Katan has lost power like two times and people still think she is a good choice of leader in universe.

Almec was the only Mandolarian who had any common sense in TCW.

 

[Screamer_2]

It's the execution, it always is with Disney Wars. Exploring the religious side of Star Wars, given that Jedi-ism and the corresponding Sith Heresy are actual things, should be pretty straightforward. But they can't (or won't) model an actual religion so it's all just surface level.

Except when it's, "but the witches are just using the force in a different way, the Jedi are wrong for gate keeping how to use the force."

They really misunderstood and took Han's like about hokey religions to heart as key to their understanding of Star Wars. As opposed to Han's ignorant opinion.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

Le Guin was propped for no reason other than having a vagina and being willing to openly preach feminism. None of her books other than the original Wizard of Earthsea are remotely readable - the fact that she got so much hype allowed me to check that for myself.

Personally I really enjoyed "The Lathe of Heaven". And from today's perspective you could call it anti-woke - it's about revolutionary ideas fueled by good intentions leading to catastrophic consequences.

Let's not jump the gun and call the 70s Marvel comics good. That whip did try to work, at least, but Lumiya is such a hot mess of a character I'm almost surprised she wasn't in Rebels.

She also was a prominent character and driving force behind the events of Legacy of the Force. But this iteration was rather inconsistent with her comic book personality and motivations.

 

[Ghostse]

I never thought that Mandolarian's as a culture was ever interesting. The Fett's are cool and maybe one or two other Mandos

Mandolarians were better as a sort of nebulous warrior society/cult. The more you try to explore Mando society, the more it becomes stupid and gay because not only does it ruin the mystique but the whole thing doesn't make sense and is completely unsustainable, because its just to fill a narrative niche not actually integrate into a functional logical world.

The Clans in BattleTech were a better way of doing this where its fully acknowledged that while its a society lead by warriors, they are simply the elite minority and vastly outnumbered by the other castes, who actually make their weapons and feed them.

Mandos would work better as a sort of corruption on chivalry or even bushido, where there is a common Warriors Code and society based on mutual interaction, but each member is more of a member of the society they are in than strictly a Mandolarian.

Depends on the era. KOTOR Mandos were interesting because they never apologized for their war crimes and TBF, when the Old Republic's plan was to hide planetary shield generators in cities, blowing up the city is necessary at that point. I have a hard time remembering Traviss Mandos despite having read the Republic Commando books. Mandos in Filoniwars are annoying as fuck because of how inconsistent they are. In TCW, most of them were neutral NPCs under the Duchess Satine while Death Watch was a terrorist organization that briefly seized power by working with Darth Maul and in Mandalorian, the Mandos are dumb enough to follow Bo Katan, whom was directly responsibly for the fall of their civilization.

The Mandos in KOTOR filled a good narrative niche that made sense in the KOTOR but less so when you have the Republic/Empire controlling to some degree the entire galaxy. A planetary population of warriors really underminds the "monopoly of violence".

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

The Mandos in KOTOR filled a good narrative niche that made sense in the KOTOR but less so when you have the Republic/Empire controlling to some degree the entire galaxy. A planetary population of warriors really underminds the "monopoly of violence".

Even in those times, it's implied the Outer Rim wasn't really under Republic control and the Sith largely went outside of the Galaxy aside from Korriban. A weirdo warrior cult society definitely works out in the Outer Rim where criminal syndicates need muscle.

 

[Bob Barbas]

They really misunderstood and took Han's like about hokey religions to heart as key to their understanding of Star Wars. As opposed to Han's ignorant opinion.

It really is kind of astounding how one simple throwaway line has caused so much nonsense.

 

[Cassius Crayfish]

Mandalorians in KOTOR = good.

Mandalorian lore outside of KOTOR = incredibly boring. Don't care about their stupid made up language or culture or anything else. Make them go away.