The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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Belisarius Cawl said:
Also if you've ever seen a Megatouch machine at a bar booting I'm fairly certain the console messages are from Red Hat or a derivative.
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Oh yeah, we have (or had) tons of those where I live. I remember asking the guy who runs our bowling alley to turn the arcade machines on and waiting for the init system boot screen to finish flying by. That definitely caught my interest as a kid.
 
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Alien Farmer said:
If you use an AMD GPU does Fedora, Arch, and Debian run the drivers out of the box, like no command required? Or do you still need to install it via the command. I don't know that much about AMD GPU on Linux.
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If you just want to play games? Yes, everything works out of the box.

If you want to do GPGPU compute for 3D rendering, AI, etc.? It gets a little more complicated, depending on which compute API your application is using. Vulkan-only stuff works out of the box, but anything that requires SYCL or OpenCL needs to have RustiCL installed and a couple of environment variables enabled. For ROCm to work, you need AMD's official kernel modules. PM me if you want help setting it up.
 
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The Anarki Main said:
Oh yeah, we have (or had) tons of those where I live. I remember asking the guy who runs our bowling alley to turn the arcade machines on and waiting for the init system boot screen to finish flying by. That definitely caught my interest as a kid.
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It all starts somewhere yeah? I had moments like that and also ones like looking at Science Officer Ash and thinking "holy shit I wish that were me"
 
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The Anarki Main said:
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not even fucking with you, creative based applications are in the same boat as games.
DAW's are a great example, for so long recording studios were stuck with old powermacs. for the simple fact that there wasn't a good alternative for a long time, that could run the proprietary software and hardware required.
some hardware used older connectors (e.g firewire) and some required PCIe. up until the M1, there just wasn't anything. (yes firewire adapters exist, but they require another adapter to be connected to a modern mac and a studio may need a couple dozen for their equipment. which the mac might not be able to accommodate. sure you can do it, but it's a terrible idea.)
even from my quick reading to brush up on my knowledge, some common DAW software don't even have arm support, on macos.
hell, newer versions of the DAW software might've dropped some function that you want or need, or isn't supported by a addon or plugin that you use.
even if there are alternatives that are just as good with linux support, the creative world will take a long time to transfer over, if they decide to transfer that is.
with enough time and good support it can be done, but right now, we're struggling on the support side. the only professional creative application i can think of that supports linux is davinci resolve, if you know of more then do list some out, a list of them would be a great resource for those looking for alternatives.
but some still don't have support, with the most infamous example being Photoshop and it's many alternatives. (and no, gimp does not count, it's not trying nor is it designed for professional photo editing.)
and since nobody's making an alternative, there's nothing to switch to.
maybe one day that'll change but it'll be a long time.
 
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itransheartnigger said:
I don't see myself approaching linux ever again until i can emulate exe programs with ease AND a cosmic desktop environment. The former seems to be already done, now I wait for the latter.
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That's an odd way to say you're waiting for the next version of Pop!_OS to make the switch. Cosmic Alpha 2 just released yesterday if you want to try it.


It sounds somewhat functional now
The Preview feature is incomplete and in active development. Previews are active by default to elicit feedback during the second alpha. An option to disable previews will be added for alpha 3.
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Testing is compulsory for some things

Release & Schedule Changes

The second COSMIC alpha will be released on September 26th. Those participating in Alpha 1 on Pop!_OS can simply update through the COSMIC App Store to transition. This alpha will be followed by monthly alpha releases until all core features have been built out.

Fresh Install

Install the COSMIC Alpha 2 ISO
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Betonhaus said:
That's an odd way to say you're waiting for the next version of Pop!_OS to make the switch. Cosmic Alpha 2 just released yesterday if you want to try it.


It sounds somewhat functional now

Testing is compulsory for some things
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Yes I've heard. I specifically want it to avoid the GNOME autism. And yes I know other desktop environments exist, but I tried linux multiple times before and got shafted each time. I'm not taking any chances again. I can not pretend I'm not tech retarded (or retarded in general).
 
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Idk what exe's you are wanting to use. But I would generally recommend not trying to exactly duplicate what you used on windows with Linux.

People generally have a much better experience if you look at it like you are expecting to find programs actually made for Linux to do what you need to do. Like you would if you moved to apple, or from android to iPhone. Etc.

Obviously that's not going to be reasonable ask for every situation. But in general expecting or wanting Linux to things like exe's is the wrong way to look at things imo
 
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Eternal Gopnik said:
The 9.9 vulnerability that someone posted a Lunduke video about recently leaked. It's cups. Here's the deets: https://www.evilsocket.net/2024/09/26/Attacking-UNIX-systems-via-CUPS-Part-I/
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tbf that's not even that bad.
TLDR is if you have cups-browsed for network printer discovery, someone can send an UDP packet, cups will dump the provided printer description and that can contain random shell code.
Here's the cups code that writes the printer description (from the blogpost linked above):
C: 
  cupsFilePrintf(fp, "*Manufacturer: \"%s\"\n", make);             // <--- LOL
  cupsFilePrintf(fp, "*ModelName: \"%s %s\"\n", make, model);      // <--- LOL
  cupsFilePrintf(fp, "*Product: \"(%s %s)\"\n", make, model);      // <--- LOL
  cupsFilePrintf(fp, "*NickName: \"%s %s, %sdriverless, %s\"\n",
         make, model, (is_fax ? "Fax, " : ""), VERSION);
  cupsFilePrintf(fp, "*ShortNickName: \"%s %s\"\n", make, model);  // <--- LOL
You can send this string and it will spill over in the %s into a new line (from the blogpost also).
Code: 
        https://www.google.com/"
        *FoomaticRIPCommandLine: "echo 1 > /tmp/PWNED"
        *cupsFilter2 : "application/pdf application/vnd.cups-postscript 0 foomatic-rip
EDIT: i mean, anyone on your LAN can execute code on your computer as root so i guess that IS pretty bad
 
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MacOS is likely affected by this, too. That’s probably going to be the main target, not Linux. Businesses rarely use Linux machines to print things, such office drone work is generally done on Windows or Apple machines. Home Linux users would be most useful as part of a botnet, but that’s still a tiny demographic to go after vs Windows.
 
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Susanna said:
Businesses rarely use Linux machines to print things
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that ignores printer servers, they still exist because some do need to print shit for work (photo printing businesses are a great example).
while the client sending the print job might be windows or mac, the server most likely is running linux with some sort of enterprise printing manager software.
since they have to use CUPS at some point, whether it's connected via usb or via the network, they are vulnerable to this attack.
even if the attacker has to be on the same LAN as the server, it's still bad since it can act as a hop to something more critical in the network that may handle sensitive information or network authentication or something else that an attacker may want.
you're only as strong as your weakest link, and that's a very weak link.
 
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TheDataHorder said:
that ignores printer servers, they still exist because some do need to print shit for work (photo printing businesses are a great example).
while the client sending the print job might be windows or mac, the server most likely is running linux with some sort of enterprise printing manager software.
since they have to use CUPS at some point, whether it's connected via usb or via the network, they are vulnerable to this attack.
even if the attacker has to be on the same LAN as the server, it's still bad since it can act as a hop to something more critical in the network that may handle sensitive information or network authentication or something else that an attacker may want.
you're only as strong as your weakest link, and that's a very weak link.
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I’ve never come across an office with a Linux print server, just a lot of networked printers. Those in turn may run Linux internally, but the exterior interfaces are CIFS and IPP.
I don’t doubt they exist, but it seems like those that do would be legacy systems.
 
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Quebec Psychiatrist said:
Arch Linux and Valve collaboration announcedView attachment 6462678
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Can you provide a source that can be read?
 
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