Victor Markhoff / Ana Victoria Markhoff / vvictorman_uel - Powerchair faker pooner, has every illness, allergic to Krebs cycle, bed mayo enjoyer, kicked out of house and mental hospital, constant ebeggar, applesauce heiress paid to yeet her teets

[brrr]

That’s one thing that really confounds me about Victoria. Complete lack of agency. It’s one of the reasons online chronic illness communities are so insidious. I don’t understand how she expected this NYU arc to go any differently than last time because clearly nothing has changed for her. She said she was evaluated as being able to recover with a little under a year of intense PT. So why won’t she do it? Medical leave is so you can get better and come back to focus on your studies. Obviously it’s not because Victoria can’t it’s because Victoria won’t etc. But there’s no way that intense PT/rehab would be less stressful than fundraising for rent and hemorrhaging money every month with no end in sight. I am dying to hear from old schoolmates or other people from her various past lives. Kind of surprised she hasn’t mentioned this page on her Twitter now that it’s public and comes up in the first page when you search her name. There’s no way she doesn’t Google herself constantly

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

June 24 2023, she gets hip MRI results back and decides to interpret them herself publicly on the internet:

She's so young, the MRI makes me wonder if she was a "gifted athlete" or dancer or something along those lines. She doesn't have any of the conditions she claims to have but that does sound like an old sports injury. Being a ballet dancer or high pressure teen athlete is another common trend in both munchies and FTMs.

 

[Fapcop]

She's so young, the MRI makes me wonder if she was a "gifted athlete" or dancer or something along those lines. She doesn't have any of the conditions she claims to have but that does sound like an old sports injury. Being a ballet dancer or high pressure teen athlete is another common trend in both munchies and FTMs.

It also requires dedication and perseverance though. Two things this woman seems to be totally lacking.

Wondering if that hip pain is because she’s a lardass who sits in her wheelchair, when she isn’t laying down in bed?

Nah, gotta be some strange condition that requires surgery!

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

It also requires dedication and perseverance though. Two things this woman seems to be totally lacking.

No, that's why that particular backstory is so common with this kind of woman. Being a talented ballet dancer as a young girl requires discipline, pain tolerance, discomfort tolerance (hunger), and a work schedule that a lot of perfectly upstanding normal adults would balk at. When they burn out, they tend to crash and burn in an absolutely bizarre and spectacular fashion.

 

[behindyourightnow]

She's so young, the MRI makes me wonder if she was a "gifted athlete" or dancer or something along those lines. She doesn't have any of the conditions she claims to have but that does sound like an old sports injury. Being a ballet dancer or high pressure teen athlete is another common trend in both munchies and FTMs.

If she really does have some amount of hypermobility, she might have been pushed into dance or gymnastics by instructors impressed by how "flexible" she was. That happens a lot, and obviously it does outsized damage because you are not starting with the healthy sort of flexibility. I can't find any reference to that on her Twitter, though.

(One non-mainstream belief that keeps me out of most of the munchie threads here is that a lot more girls really are getting symptoms of connective tissue disorders these days, maybe perhaps because of BC pills or other environmental exposures triggering conditions that otherwise would not have been symptomatic. The munchie aspect comes when they start reacting to it like it's some inevitable lifelong disability or degenerative curse, when in most cases it's pretty easily manageable)

Slightly unstable hips would be enough to trigger bad pain in the long term. The answer to unstable hips is strengthening exercises so your muscles can hold everything in place better, but Vicky in her wisdom has chosen to do the exact opposite and not walk for several years.

It also requires dedication and perseverance though. Two things this woman seems to be totally lacking.

Wondering if that hip pain is because she’s a lardass who sits in her wheelchair, when she isn’t laying down in bed?

Nah, gotta be some strange condition that requires surgery!

She only became a lardass in the last 2-3 years, though.

I'm willing to believe she was actually in some sort of pain. The interesting/tragic part is her taking that pain and turning it into a real (and maybe permanent) disability by virtue of being fat and sitting in a motorized wheelchair until her muscles rot.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

(One non-mainstream belief that keeps me out of most of the munchie threads here is that a lot more girls really are getting symptoms of connective tissue disorders these days, maybe perhaps because of BC pills or other environmental exposures triggering conditions that otherwise would not have been symptomatic. The munchie aspect comes when they start reacting to it like it's some inevitable lifelong disability or degenerative curse, when in most cases it's pretty easily manageable)

With you 100% on this. Everyone likes to say "mental illness" like it's just an inborn curse that can never be fixed, and use that to explain everything, but in reality, a lot of these people start with some genuine concern (usually not anything major or life-threatening, although sometimes medical trauma early in life can translate to hypochondria in adolescence). The rumination and "identity politics" spiral overlays on top of a real problem. Add in the fact that oftentimes, the medical system DOES refuse to take seriously these complaints, and you have a perfect storm.

Unless you're olympian level, you're not going to be getting excellent sports med access for your injuries, even if you're a high school athlete competing on an elite level. (And elite level, with the hours of training involved, makes you pretty likely to rack up some painful injuries.) You'll be lucky to get adequate care. It's not just a "wammin be crazy" thing either- I know a guy irl who spiraled into major depression and hypochondria and from there into real chronic illness after a serious joint injury in high school football.

And absolutely- progestins have a marked effect on collagen in the body, and can have the effect of loosening the joints. This is by nature's design, related to its role in pregnancy. But then you have girls and women on synthetic forms of this stuff (which may be less well-tolerated or more powerful than what's normal in the unmedicated body) for decades on end- we shouldn't wonder why so many women have the aches and pains disorders. SSRIs can also influence pain perception and inadvertently make it worse.

 

[Sperghetti]

(And this probably affects women with real conditions as well, they end up in online communities where the social incentive is to not manage your condition but to suffer from it as much as possible, and in fact any attempt to gain control of your life and improve your health is seem as quasi-fascist)

Spoiler: More Sperging

There's an old website where someone did a deep dive into an estranged parent forum where the tone was pretty much set by narcissistic types who claimed they had no clue why their horrible, ungrateful kids didn't want contact with them anymore. They noted, among other things, that any new user who lost contact with their children due to a clear external factor (like drugs or a cult or an abusive partner) never seemed to stick around for long.

It reminds me of these communities. Anybody who actually does want to try and improve their lot probably doesn’t hang around too long, so any newly diagnosed person that doesn’t know any better gets immediately bombarded with “you’re horribly disabled, your life is ruined, and no doctor will ever listen to you because you’re a woman”.

"As we all know repairing something is a lot more intense and invasive than replacing or getting rid of it." No. No. I can't even... what? No.


https://www.ghostarchive.org/archive/yCxdx

What the fuck?

Meanwhile, out here in normal reality, a hip replacement on a young patient (or any joint replacement, for that matter) is pretty damn rare.

For one thing, young patients obviously don’t have the same sort of long-standing, chronic issues that your typical older joint replacement candidate does. And even then, those older patients have likely been through more conservative treatments (physical therapy, injections, etc.) first.

And for another thing, prosthetic joints have a lifespan. I’ve even seen doctors be hesitant to recommend a joint replacement to someone who’s middle-aged, because they knew that it was pretty much inevitable that said patient would have to undergo a replacement of their replacement at some point.

 

[Zemblan Physics]

forum where the tone was pretty much set by narcissistic types

This certainly applies to the munchie community too, and contributes to why I despise them so deeply. They have found an endless source of validation (“disability”) to compensate for egos that can’t withstand the aches and pains of, well, living. Well-meaning and evidence based advice is interpreted as bigoted ignorance of the super special condishuns, so anyone with actual expertise can be ignored. Only the word of another munchie (or a handmaiden, preferably with an MD) can be trusted.

I mostly am amused by munchies, because they are slowly digging their own graves while being very smug about it. It upsets me when the intellectually disabled, very young or truly autistic are sucked into the community, though.

Vicky WAS pretty young when she started out, and from what I understand began pooning out and munching simultaneously (one can argue that pooning out is munching too, though). She’s had enough chances and support to leave this nonsense behind so I’m happy to keep pointing and laughing at her.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Interestingly empathetic opinion.
What cause you to want to troon out?

I have a package of Johnsonville brats I bought before your join date, and the stamp says they're still good to eat.

 

[Zemblan Physics]

I have a package of Johnsonville brats I bought before your join date, and the stamp says they're still good to eat.

Don’t think newbie asked why YOU trooned out, I think she was pondering why anyone would troon out. Be nice, Larry .

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Don’t think newbie asked why YOU trooned out, I think she was pondering why anyone would troon out. Be nice, Larry .

Nah, Radfem Hitler here is accusing me of excessive empathy and attributing it accordingly. It's excessive retardation even for a sub week old account, needs a swat on the nose.

She can learn how to play ball like everyone else who signs up here.

 

[RandallBoggs]

It reminds me of these communities. Anybody who actually does want to try and improve their lot probably doesn’t hang around too long, so any newly diagnosed person that doesn’t know any better gets immediately bombarded with “you’re horribly disabled, your life is ruined, and no doctor will ever listen to you because you’re a woman”.

Even if you don’t have such explicit doomers poisoning the well, this type of community by nature has a revolving door of members, and only the ones who have it bad (or LARP so) stick around. If someone is cured, or has their condition under control, they have no reason to hang out in those spaces. It doesn’t consume their thoughts, and it takes a… “special” kind of person to stay terminally online in those communities despite not being actively ill.
So through selection bias, newly diagnosed people enter those groups and are greeted with a slew of pity parties and misery orgies, and assume that’s what the rest of their life will look like as well.

 

[prolific_mango]

Sperghetti, I’d love to look at that website if you can remember what it was. The psychological workings of those kind of people is fascinating. Edited bc it autocorrected your username lol.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

Sperghetti, I’d love to look at that website if you can remember what it was. The psychological workings of those kind of people is fascinating. Edited bc it autocorrected your username lol.

Here you go.

 

[The Judean People's Front]

Wow, you're so cool, you joined an autism forum before someone.
Anyway, what causes you to be so empathetic towards trannies? If you questioned taking HRT you should share your experience, it could help others

Nice b8 m8. Go back to 4chan until you're ready to talk with the grownups.

What is with the influx of 'tards to this thread? She didn't get put on community postings did she?

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Nice b8 m8. Go back to 4chan until you're ready to talk with the grownups.

What is with the influx of 'tards to this thread? She didn't get put on community postings did she?

I checked Exulansic's Twitter, doesn't look like she mentioned this one- that was my first suspicion.

 

[behindyourightnow]

Wow, you're so cool, you joined an autism forum before someone.
Anyway, what causes you to be so empathetic towards trannies? If you questioned taking HRT you should share your experience, it could help others
@Radfem Hitler ">she"
Oh ok, you see the scary TERF menace everywhere, huh? Sounding more and more like a /pol/tard trooncel

You heard the lady. If you call someone with the name "Redfem" in their username "she" in a thread where probably 80% of the posters are female (if not more), it means you're paranoid about TERFs. I guess.

(One of my favorite misconceptions about this place is is people constantly failing to observe just how female-heavy parts of Kiwi Farms are. Despite it being a literal gossip forum dedicated to bitching about people.)

Back to Victoria: she is currently bitching about no one donating to her GoFundMe, but I'm far more fascinated with this retweet of hers:


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I am dying of curiosity about this "viral wastewater" arc but alas I don't have time to fully investigate right now. Why are they spending so much time repeatedly sterilizing the water instead of doing something about the flooding? Why does their basement have covid? Why is the sterilization costing $300? Can't they just buy a few big bottles of bleach and tip them all in? Why are so many in the woke/munchie/covid holdout sphere constantly dealing with floods and mold and water? Ana Mardoll had a flooding/mold arc as well and so did a few of her orbiters, and now this. Did they all piss off a water god at some point?

 

[brrr]

You heard the lady. If you call someone with the name "Redfem" in their username "she" in a thread where probably 80% of the posters are female (if not more), it means you're paranoid about TERFs. I guess.

(One of my favorite misconceptions about this place is is people constantly failing to observe just how female-heavy parts of Kiwi Farms are. Despite it being a literal gossip forum dedicated to bitching about people.)

Back to Victoria: she is currently bitching about no one donating to her GoFundMe, but I'm far more fascinated with this retweet of hers:

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I am dying of curiosity about this "viral wastewater" arc but alas I don't have time to fully investigate right now. Why are they spending so much time repeatedly sterilizing the water instead of doing something about the flooding? Why does their basement have covid? Why is the sterilization costing $300? Can't they just buy a few big bottles of bleach and tip them all in? Why are so many in the woke/munchie/covid holdout sphere constantly dealing with floods and mold and water? Ana Mardoll had a flooding/mold arc as well and so did a few of her orbiters, and now this. Did they all piss off a water god at some point?

If it makes it easier this is Mem, she’s all over the e beggars thread and her arc is pretty easy to follow because it’s like Groundhog Day with poop. I think she’s fucked the sewage system in multiple places she’s rented

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

If it makes it easier this is Mem, she’s all over the e beggars thread and her arc is pretty easy to follow because it’s like Groundhog Day with poop. I think she’s fucked the sewage system in multiple places she’s rented

...is she flushing inappropriate items? Do I want any of my questions answered?

 

[behindyourightnow]

...dammit, I had things to do and now I'm stuck in the E-Beggars thread.

...is she flushing inappropriate items? Do I want any of my questions answered?

She claimed at one point there were treeroots in the pipes. Except that the same sewage problems happened at her old rental apparently. Or maybe it was treeroots in the old one and something else here?

My guess is: she is dealing with less-than-ideal plumbing in multiple houses because only slumlords will rent to someone with her terrible rental record. And rather than adjusting her actions in any way, as people all around the world do when they must live in houses with bad plumbing, she's just blithely attempting to flush the results of her poor eating habits, along with half a roll of paper required to deal with the lack of fibre in her diet. And then passively begging when things go wrong, unburdened by what has been.

Same mindset I was sperging about earlier in the thread:

But by far the most interesting similarity is their general attitude towards life, as exemplified in that last screenshot. Things just happen to them, terrible random things, and all they can do is cry to the heavens and reach out to their followers for more attention and money. Nothing that happens to them ever has any connection to their past actions, and nothing can be done about it except to curse one's cruel existence.