Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[Galaxolotl]

I'm conflicted about this. Yes, maybe in a few cities around the world (your Springfields and what not) they "won ". But overall, even if winning was posible on their vision (it isn't, more on that later) is a very pyrrhic win.
The biomass is not an stable population longterm. (the better ones) or straight up drop dead. The gang members they shipped? They would instantly return to their tyrannic roots that made their countries shitholes in the frist place. Good luck with dealing with that the second the West gets a little bit more dire.
My favorite way to ilustrate this point is asking if someone thinks tthis people (Inbreed Pakistani Muslims living in UK) can survive this (The ration the UK gave to families after WWII)?
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Also everyones' fertility is droping, not just whites and east asíans. Even notoriously overcrowded countries like China or India are on their way to drop in the next decade or so. 7Billon humans is just an unsustainable, retarded number of poblation. The bottleneck that is coming.

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But going back to manhate: most moids can't give less of a fuck about this, it doesn't matter if they claim to be "right wing" or whatever. Their ideology is window dressing to cover their real objetives,: negging women into sex and reproduction and getting away with antisocial behavior. Even in their most "based" fantasies they include self-defecting points because the real objetive is negging women and lower the standards for their own behavior, nothing more.

Christ Almighty, put those things out of their misery.

 

[Lidl Drip]

 

[Clamater]

Men: broken and it's irreparable. The latest defense for raping Gisèle is that the rapist believed she was dead. Sleeping and drugged assaults are often very closely linked to necrophilia. Those are huge porn categories that are only just now being removed in light of the publicity of this case. Men want women in two ways: fucked and dead, and they don't care in which order it happens.

 

[Näkki]

Nigel is what i used to call my partner, now he's just another moid with how he acts. I'm just waiting to cut that fucker loose at this point.

Spoiler: Bullshit

I wish there was a place i could just rant without being called insane staying with him still and all that. I know how to improve my life, there's just 101 reasons i can't just yet and want to vent, not be called stupid yet again when I'm trying so hard not to put him down out of sympathy every single day. (Rn i keep him for hard physical tasks usually needed in autumn on a farmstead. Literally keeping him as a farmhand. Just doesn't know that. "Yes teach me more about taking care of this. Yes it's important, you're so amazing.") Finally starting his new school too so I'll only see him on the weekends which is a great fucking start to get my shit together and find ways to move on.

The past few years have taken so much from me. Hope, the believe shit will get better, my trust in any moids, "communication", suddenly being a gender, etc etc.
I was so close to putting one moid of his misery when he fucked with my friend, his wife. Nah, she kept going back and that was a part of my life too for 4 years now. So much police, lawyers, women's help organisations, so many shitty comments from all those, even in the hospital, my friend not wanting to hurt him, repeat months later, rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat. And you do understand, but eventually you're just so damn numb.
"Oh that weekend i brought her home again, and afterwards he almost killed her, for the first time strangling her, cutting off her air flow." Motherfucker, at that point you know the statistics but just that i knew shit would happen but i brought her home anyway.. I feel so guilty despite knowing that's a whole adult woman that can make choices for herself.

How does one deal with that? All that?
Because I'm fucking tired of it.. I'm ready to go feral out here.

 

[Kiwisee]

I’ve been on a slight nostalgia binge, rewatching rom-coms from the 1980s to 2000s. Slowly, I’ve been noticing a reoccurring trend in these films:

Whenever there’s a situation where a girl is in a relationship with a shitty Moid (who is usually a handsome jock), the plot is focused on some Nerdy looking Moid who pines for the girl in question. The only thing keeping them apart is the girl in question having high standards in how men look.

Usually the story will go in the Nerd’s favor and he ends up with the girl after owning the Jock epic style.

This, I feel, honestly explains a lot about the incel mindset. Because we receive a lot of subliminal messaging about needing to lower our standards for social retards, a lot of those same social retards seem to think life is an 80s high school rom com. They seem to believe that they don’t have to take any care for their appearances because they’ll end up with a 10/10 tradwife at the end of the day.

Yet, you rarely see scenarios of a good looking jock who gives the socially awkward nerdy girl a chance (at least, not until at some point in the mid 2000s did you see movies with that premise). And the funny thing about those movies? They’re the type of films that Moids get infuriated with because they feel they’re being told to ‘settle for less’ by the ‘Feminazis’.

Speaking of ‘Feminazi’, I actually like that term. It’s a great descriptor for feminists who are consistent with their racism to call out brown Moids for shitty behavior just as much as white Moids are called out for shitty mindsets.

 

[Kermit the Impaler]

How does one deal with that? All that?
Because I'm fucking tired of it.. I'm ready to go feral out here.

Do you have any domestic violence resources in your country? That's where I would start. The good ones are good at helping you develop a plan to leave while not shaming you for staying, and can help on how to handle your friends decision to not leave.

 

[Näkki]

Do you have any domestic violence resources in your country? That's where I would start. The good ones are good at helping you develop a plan to leave while not shaming you for staying, and can help on how to handle your friends decision to not leave.

She's okay now, got a restraining order until her divorce. We have great resources here, with free lawyers, therapists and emergency support. Which made it so insane. It just took us 4-5 years now.. like 2 years ago i got her out of their shared flat and into a council flat and he literally moved in two weeks later. There wasn't a month without shit happening and I'm exhausted, it took so long to even get her to this point of "don't even answer his messages", just save them for your lawyer.

I want to light his bikes and car on fire. But I'll be smart and just pay some stupid moid for that in minecraft.

Worth it though. She gets to stay in my country, he gets to stay far away. (Except for the poor thai women he already got.)

Eta: clarification

 

[crazedaze]

The only reason to put a "nerdy" girl in a movie is to glow her up to 10/10 model status because every moid is entitled to that.



It's a trope, meanwhile when do you ever see a fat disheveled nerdy guy being taught to take care of his looks to get where he wants to be in a movie? I'll wait.

 

[Kermit the Impaler]

She's okay now, got a restraining order until her divorce. We have great resources here, with free lawyers, therapists and emergency support. Which made it so insane. There wasn't a month without shit happening and I'm exhausted, it took so long to even get her to this point of "don't even answer his messages", just save them for your lawyer.

I'm glad she got out, but what about you. How are you doing. Dealing with that situation is a lot for anyone. If it's still messing with you, reach out to one of those therapists.

 

[glitterglue]

I’ve been on a slight nostalgia binge, rewatching rom-coms from the 1980s to 2000s. Slowly, I’ve been noticing a reoccurring trend in these films:

Whenever there’s a situation where a girl is in a relationship with a shitty Moid (who is usually a handsome jock), the plot is focused on some Nerdy looking Moid who pines for the girl in question. The only thing keeping them apart is the girl in question having high standards in how men look.

Usually the story will go in the Nerd’s favor and he ends up with the girl after owning the Jock epic style.

This, I feel, honestly explains a lot about the incel mindset. Because we receive a lot of subliminal messaging about needing to lower our standards for social retards, a lot of those same social retards seem to think life is an 80s high school rom com. They seem to believe that they don’t have to take any care for their appearances because they’ll end up with a 10/10 tradwife at the end of the day.

Yet, you rarely see scenarios of a good looking jock who gives the socially awkward nerdy girl a chance (at least, not until at some point in the mid 2000s did you see movies with that premise). And the funny thing about those movies? They’re the type of films that Moids get infuriated with because they feel they’re being told to ‘settle for less’ by the ‘Feminazis’.

Speaking of ‘Feminazi’, I actually like that term. It’s a great descriptor for feminists who are consistent with their racism to call out brown Moids for shitty behavior just as much as white Moids are called out for shitty mindsets.

CWC really had this mindset, i noticed that earlt with him, that he lived in a "revenge of the nerds"-delusion, and i do not think it is that uncommon. There was an autistic kid at my school, with this exact mindset too + yellow fever.

A girl is in a relationship, not of her own will, but because the jock is a "jerk" who just takes all the pretty girls from the underdog, nerdy incels. If the jerks did not steal all the pretty girls, the nerds would have access to them. The strong undertone is that, women or girls have no mind of their own, they are only with the jerk, because he claimed them.

 

[Kiwisee]

Speaking of Revenge of the Nerds, it is such a gross film. You can tell it was written by incels who were still bitter about being bullied in high school by jocks (who most likely were bullying them for being fucking creeps towards girls).

Even back when I watched it at 15 in the mid 2000s, I have no idea how so many people found it funny when there’s a blatant rape scene in it (that gets downplayed because the girl “enjoys it”. Ick)

There’s also a weird amount of Moids who go “Well it was the 80s, things were different back then you’re just being a woke harpy”. Like as if women are in the wrong for not liking a rape scene in a fucking teen comedy.

 

[Näkki]

I'm glad she got out, but what about you. How are you doing. Dealing with that situation is a lot for anyone. If it's still messing with you, reach out to one of those therapists.

I will, thank you. Sadly those therapists aren't for "bffs" but I'll look into my own.

Honestly, I'm tired. Of men, of men being pissed all the time, of their volatile feelings, of anger around me, of stress around me and the constant fear you carry when being suspected to it. The constant anger, complaints, utter bullshit. I don't believe my nigel would ever hurt me, but when he talks about the german woman having received migrants with hugs and clothes— deserving to be raped— "by what they accepted into the country" I generally feel sick. So recent and it just broke me, on the other hand it made me so damn angry. Fuck he pisses me off.

One step after the next i suppose.

Thank you very much though, i appreciate it.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

The past few years have taken so much from me. Hope, the believe shit will get better, my trust in any moids, "communication", suddenly being a gender, etc etc.
I was so close to putting one moid of his misery when he fucked with my friend, his wife. Nah, she kept going back and that was a part of my life too for 4 years now. So much police, lawyers, women's help organisations, so many shitty comments from all those, even in the hospital, my friend not wanting to hurt him, repeat months later, rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat. And you do understand, but eventually you're just so damn numb.
"Oh that weekend i brought her home again, and afterwards he almost killed her, for the first time strangling her, cutting off her air flow." Motherfucker, at that point you know the statistics but just that i knew shit would happen but i brought her home anyway.. I feel so guilty despite knowing that's a whole adult woman that can make choices for herself.

How does one deal with that? All that?
Because I'm fucking tired of it.. I'm ready to go feral out here.

She's okay now, got a restraining order until her divorce. We have great resources here, with free lawyers, therapists and emergency support. Which made it so insane. It just took us 4-5 years now.. like 2 years ago i got her out of their shared flat and into a council flat and he literally moved in two weeks later. There wasn't a month without shit happening and I'm exhausted, it took so long to even get her to this point of "don't even answer his messages", just save them for your lawyer.

I want to light his bikes and car on fire. But I'll be smart and just pay some stupid moid for that in minecraft.

Worth it though. She gets to stay in my country, he gets to stay far away. (Except for the poor thai women he already got.)

Eta: clarification

I believe that everyone has an inherent responsibility for their own lives and safety. This is not to say that some things aren't outside of your control, nor is it to absolve men of their abuses. But if someone is knowingly, repeatedly, putting themselves in harm's way, then some of that blame is on them. I commend you for sticking by your friend through all that shit and helping her get away from that man. You did a lot for her even though she couldn't even keep herself from responding to his messages. That is true friendship and loyalty and you have nothing to feel guilty about.

I’ve been on a slight nostalgia binge, rewatching rom-coms from the 1980s to 2000s. Slowly, I’ve been noticing a reoccurring trend in these films:

Whenever there’s a situation where a girl is in a relationship with a shitty Moid (who is usually a handsome jock), the plot is focused on some Nerdy looking Moid who pines for the girl in question. The only thing keeping them apart is the girl in question having high standards in how men look.

Usually the story will go in the Nerd’s favor and he ends up with the girl after owning the Jock epic style.

This, I feel, honestly explains a lot about the incel mindset. Because we receive a lot of subliminal messaging about needing to lower our standards for social retards, a lot of those same social retards seem to think life is an 80s high school rom com. They seem to believe that they don’t have to take any care for their appearances because they’ll end up with a 10/10 tradwife at the end of the day.

Yet, you rarely see scenarios of a good looking jock who gives the socially awkward nerdy girl a chance (at least, not until at some point in the mid 2000s did you see movies with that premise). And the funny thing about those movies? They’re the type of films that Moids get infuriated with because they feel they’re being told to ‘settle for less’ by the ‘Feminazis’.

I can't stand rom-coms from the 80s - 2000s for this reason. It's such a pandering to the male fantasy: he can be out of shape (he's usually not FAT tbf), ungroomed, socially inept, etc. etc. and he wants, nay, deserves the pretty woman. It literally taught men that they deserve women who are out of their league and it taught women that it's cute and romantic to settle.

The only reason to put a "nerdy" girl in a movie is to glow her up to 10/10 model status because every moid is entitled to that.
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It's a trope, meanwhile when do you ever see a fat disheveled nerdy guy being taught to take care of his looks to get where he wants to be in a movie? I'll wait.

I really, really wish we had more stories about women becoming comfortable in themselves and their femininity without it being an obvious man-pandering glow-up. Are there any movies with nerdy women who aren't conventionally attractive? Where she's not the butt of some joke?

 

[Hubelublub]

I believe that everyone has an inherent responsibility for their own lives and safety. This is not to say that some things aren't outside of your control, nor is it to absolve men of their abuses. But if someone is knowingly, repeatedly, putting themselves in harm's way, then some of that blame is on them.

You phrased this so nicely. In an environment where we default to blaming women for everything, it's really hard to reassert a balance between moid accountability for his own bullshit and women not being utterly helpless beings.

It's all well and good to help someone out of burning building, but if they keep running back in, there's only so much rescuing you can do before you're just asking to be burnt too.

 

[crazedaze]

we default to blaming women for everything,

This is the problem with listening to moids, because we all know there is no way to be correct as a woman so it's not worth trying. It's your fault a man abuses because you chose him; if you stay it's on you; if you go you're disloyal and we need to abolish divorce so you can't. So, as always, ignore the fuck out of dumbass moid opinions.
The important part is for women to understand why we miss red flags, and why we stay with moids who abuse (we are projecting our goodness and don't understand manipulative monsters). That's all that matters.

 

[Layton Mysteries]

They should be trained to shoot men who do this. That is so horrible.
Most studies fail to analyse this phenomenon by the gender of the individual with cancer, but I found one article that does: Article (A). This article indicates that women diagnosed with cancer are divorced 6x more than men who are diagnosed with cancer. 20.8% of women with cancer soon get divorced, while 2.9% of men with cancer soon get divorced.
A systematic review (A) I read stated that generally, the rate of divorce goes ever-so-slightly down with a cancer diagnosis, except for cervical cancer, where it goes up. While the review fails to explicitly analyse the rate of divorce when the patient is male vs female, the fact that cervical cancer is the only one found to have an increased rate, while also being a cancer exclusive to women, makes this pretty clear. Note that a lot of the studies making up this review are pretty flawed and failed to even report data on which party had cancer.

 

[keke]

It's a trope, meanwhile when do you ever see a fat disheveled nerdy guy being taught to take care of his looks to get where he wants to be in a movie? I'll wait.

Tangent to this is casting the absolute rattiest average looking actors for romantic interests against a stunning actress. Especially in romance media. I am so sick of ugly male actors, the fucking audacity. Say what you want about the 2000s but at least they knew not to cast uggos as the male lead, unless it was a romcom of course—those crimes will never be forgiven.

 

[Lidl Drip]

It's a trope, meanwhile when do you ever see a fat disheveled nerdy guy being taught to take care of his looks to get where he wants to be in a movie? I'll wait.

There's only one movie I can think of where this happens, and it's "Hitch" where Will Smith teaches Kevin James how to dress and not be a bumbling idiot in order to win over a woman who is lightyears out of his league.



But ofc this movie only exists to further encourage moids delusions that they deserve a skinny blonde supermodel even if they are fat nerds just because they are "nice guys".

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

I’ve been on a slight nostalgia binge, rewatching rom-coms from the 1980s to 2000s. Slowly, I’ve been noticing a reoccurring trend in these films:

Whenever there’s a situation where a girl is in a relationship with a shitty Moid (who is usually a handsome jock), the plot is focused on some Nerdy looking Moid who pines for the girl in question. The only thing keeping them apart is the girl in question having high standards in how men look.

Usually the story will go in the Nerd’s favor and he ends up with the girl after owning the Jock epic style.

This, I feel, honestly explains a lot about the incel mindset. Because we receive a lot of subliminal messaging about needing to lower our standards for social retards, a lot of those same social retards seem to think life is an 80s high school rom com. They seem to believe that they don’t have to take any care for their appearances because they’ll end up with a 10/10 tradwife at the end of the day.

Yet, you rarely see scenarios of a good looking jock who gives the socially awkward nerdy girl a chance (at least, not until at some point in the mid 2000s did you see movies with that premise).

Pretty in Pink was exactly this movie. Molly Ringwald (Andie) is the poorish quirky, bullied, awkward girl with the equally awkward Jon Cryer (Duckie) as her BFF (who was in love with her but friendzoned), living with her single father, Harry Dean Stanton (Jack, a man mourning the loss of his wife, who left them both), and working at the funky record store owned by quirky Annie Potts (Iona), an affirming presence. Andie like rich and popular Andrew McCarthy (Blane), who asked her to go to prom but then flaked on her bc he was weak ("I forgot I asked someone else" when in reality he was chicken to go outside his circle plus someone was encouraging it (see below)). Jack buys Andie a prom dress, with tbh charming well-meaning ineptitude in his selection of a dress. Andie doesn't want to go to prom at all bc Blane dumped her, but Iona encourages her and they recut and resew the dress to a very unorthodox dress, very much Andie's style. She and Duckie go to prom together as friends, despite her feeling humiliated to be seen after being flaked on. Outcome: Andie gets Blane at the end when he admits he's been a jerk and tells off his fellow richie BFF James Spader (Steff) for being an ass who'd been manipulating Blane to torpedo his interest in Andie bc he (Steff) was mad she had previously rejected him (Steff).

And before angry incels cry about forgotten Duckie, he, after getting over his anger and jealousy and wishing her well, ends the movie getting asked to dance at the prom and presumably finding his own t&h boyfriend-free girl.

Like many of John Hughes' 80s movies, the characters and plot can be imperfect or unsatisfying, but "awkward or unconventional teen girl gets the hot guy" was not invented in the 21st century. See also Sixteen Candles*. And these movies were HUGE in the 80s.

*Sophomore Molly Ringwald (Sam, for Samantha), who's having a terrible 16th birthday bc family forgot, has crush on hot senior Michael Schoeffield (Jake) while braceface freshman Anthony Michael Hall (Ted) has crush on Ringwald. Sam is miserable and Ted is annoying, and at one point he makes utter cringe moves on her in a car, after which she tells him to fuck off but bc though these are not really 3D characters, they're also not 1D, he encourages her to talk to Jake, and she [just go with it/ these movies have been heavily criticized in more recent years] gives him her panties so he can win a bet he'd made with his gaggle of nerdy freshman compatriots**. Ffw, Jake finds his hottie popular girlfriend passed out drunk/hungover in the arms of Ted (yes, Ted) in the car, breaks up with her, gets Sam's panties back from Ted, and returns them to Sam, along with a birthday cake for her. They kiss over the cake. Also her parents finally remembered her birthday and her dad had comforted her & told her she deserved better than Jake when she was mooning over Jake after prom and before he showed up.

**I've posted the clip here before when he reveals the panties in the boys' room at school, because those mouthbreather boys in awe of the panties remind me of...some behavior in some threads.

Sixteen Candles is also the source of Long Duck Dong, the foreign exchange student, which character would in no way appear in a movie today.

Oh, and Andie/Sam changed nothing about herself over the course of those movies. It was the boys who had to - for the popular guys, stop being stuck in their standard ecosystem/situation, and for the pining Duckie/Ted, get over themselves and find their own happiness.

 

[The Noise]

The only reason to put a "nerdy" girl in a movie is to glow her up to 10/10 model status because every moid is entitled to that.
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It's a trope, meanwhile when do you ever see a fat disheveled nerdy guy being taught to take care of his looks to get where he wants to be in a movie? I'll wait.

My parents act like I'm ugly because I have to wear glasses and I'm entirely sure it's because of this stupid trend. I need them to see, you stupid fucking dipshits.