Furry Fandom and Drama General

[harmy.kook]

Now I may not be all that smart but "you shouldn't demonize furry CP because the main organizers of this culture are into it" may not be the slam dunk he thinks it is.

Speaking of possible pedophiles:

This motherfucker coming across my feed. Most of the video is sweeping for Troons, defending pedophiilia, and hating "le evil Conservatives" like Libs of TikTok

 

[who dare wins?]

Speaking of possible pedophiles:

This motherfucker coming across my feed. Most of the video is sweeping for Troons, defending pedophiilia, and hating "le evil Conservatives" like Libs of TikTok

I forgot what it exactly was, but this dude used to read off of kiwifarms posts and actually did not like feral porn. However he was too spineless, Hearthfox called him out for a obviously ironic joke (like his fat, jew yorkan animal raping arse usually does when hes having his "anxiety attacks" and being muh therian) and cucking out. People pushed him on it before but after deleting his discord server and having trannies screaming down his throat, he turned to this.

instead of making actually interesting videos, the spineless nigger turns to pedo defending. Sad existence.

 

[Calamity]

"SENIORS WEAR DIAPERS TOO!! IT'S NOT A CHILD FETISH!!!!"
okay how many adult diaper BABY LOVE people do you see carrying around a cane and roleplaying as a senior citizen?

nah you always see them roleplaying behavior of babies/children. You guys get off to BABY LOVE.

That excuse drives me crazy. Medical incontinence underwear and diapers are generally trying to be as dignified and discreet as possible. They don't intentionally have cute kid appealing art splattered on them and are not trying to be as poofy and noticeable as possible under clothing.

There are people like toddlergirl who are gross in another level because they brag about getting their diapers on the NHS. I've seen these abdl folk actually fuck up their bodies by force training themselves to become incontinent on purpose. There's people out there who get surgeries and suffer with horrible anxiety being in public because they are incontinent and these weirdos revel in it.

 

[Otis Boi]

Yep, it's something that's gone from an open secret in the furry fandom to an insidiously accepted reality. Its consequences are going to be harmful. There was a minor controversy only a short couple weeks ago that highlight this problem perfectly.

The most frustrating thing was most people on the side of the diaper fag where not even con attendees. They are the same people that bitch about "Guns and conversations". They are trying to control what others do while not even go.

I have tons of issues with conversations and how permissable people have become with diaper shit. With people going 'yeah just stay away from X because that's actually just a changing party" or "Ohh Y was the one who left dirty diapers in the garbage he was drunk it's fucked up but what do you expect?". At least other fetishes don't leave biohazards around Christ.

Edit:sorry this posted before I was done typing.

 

[Sneed's Feed And Seed]

At least other fetishes don't leave biohazards around Christ.

CUM.
PIZZA.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

In commemoration of the thread reaching page 1488, here are my German feelings about how Babyfurs run the fandom:
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More like this would be the correct reaction:

 

[Spoonomancer]

well maybe if furry conventions cannot run because pedophiles can't shout "no kinkshaming!" at people for not being comfortable around people fetishizing toddlers shitting their pants then they should consider what they're implicating here.

 

[Sneedenhagen Chew]

So many weird self-snitches here:

Don't let the normies know that pedophiles run FURSTRATCOM.

They are going to freak the ff out if they ever find out. That's why this information is classified as TS/SCI - Timeout Secret/Special Caretaker Information.

As an ex-conrunner, and current community manager for the local furry group, I can WHOLEHEARTEDLY confirm this.

Hell... pedophiles run the internet.

I cannot tell you how many nepiophiles and pedophiles I know in IT

Every single event I have ever volunteered for would be unable to hold a dance or maintain their registration IT without pedophiles. I have no idea why that became the meta, but it's the convention volunteer meta: half the IT and AV staff of a typical convention will be constituted by pedophiles.

I personally know people who are pedophiles that run cons/ serve on staff. We are everywhere, and honestly, I'm getting tired of puritanical children who apparently haven't learned that not my thing doesn't equal immoral. These people are basically parroting the hatefulness of people who hate pedophiles.

Also, fuck Jamie J the most for forcing me to type his comment specifically out.

 

[Harm]

That excuse drives me crazy. Medical incontinence underwear and diapers are generally trying to be as dignified and discreet as possible. They don't intentionally have cute kid appealing art splattered on them and are not trying to be as poofy and noticeable as possible under clothing.

There's plenty other differences that they completely ignore, including how they market those fetish diapers and them being designed specifically for you to continue wearing them after soiling yourself. That's not even getting into the sordid past of how the "industry" came out of the (alleged) CSAM trading scheme known as "Star Diapers" or how they're producing tons of unnecessary waste that can't breakdown easily in landfills solely to fuel their pedophilic fetish.

 

[Pizdec]

There's plenty other differences that they completely ignore, including how they market those fetish diapers and them being designed specifically for you to continue wearing them after soiling yourself. That's not even getting into the sordid past of how the "industry" came out of the (alleged) CSAM trading scheme known as "Star Diapers" or how they're producing tons of unnecessary waste that can't breakdown easily in landfills solely to fuel their pedophilic fetish.

I would love for the day to come when peak oil finally happens and we're told to limit the use of petrols for fetish shit, and the complete and total breakdown of diaperfags as they're told we cannot sell you your fetish diaper shit anymore.

And when that day comes, I will laugh, and laugh, and laugh.

 

[didelphigina]

This happens when you constantly repeat the phrase, "How does this affect you?" and "as long as it doesn't hurt anyone" like it's gospel.

This happens when you don't control and go off on the people for being so open about all of this.

This is what happens to a fandom that's so used to enabling stuff like this it's no wonder why people see things like babyfur and other horrifying stuff as something normal. It's why babyfur stuff is so rampant on FA, e621, Inkbunny, etc. Not to mention the number of loopholes they try to excuse themselves to justify being into it. Just remember to add the "If fiction doesn't affect reality, then why the drawing of a canonical child, regardless if they were aged up or not, made your real penis hard?" picture and see how they'll react.

Of course, most, if not, a good chunk (i hope) of furries are against babyfur/cub stuff. But what makes the fandom so horrifying is that there's always a space for these people. They have their little clubs, and not one kink is without its group of people. If one side of the fandom doesn't like them, then they'll pack their bags and walk straight to the other part of the fandom that will accept their fetishes and kinks.

It allows them to indulge in it for as long as they wish to since, again, furries have normalized "being weird and queer with what gets your rod hard" so much that even if the person ran off from the majority of the fandom, it's not the end of the world. They'll still have a dedicated fanbase, albeit much smaller. They'll still get commissions and money. They'll still have orbiters and defenders around them in their secret place. No matter what you do, the furry will thrive; like a dictator getting no repercussions for the killings of millions, being able to walk free and die peacefully.

And like some dictators, even when the whole world is against them, they'll end up chilling in their secret base, in the middle of nowhere, being able to continue their reign in secret or relaxing in peace. Weird comparison, yes, but it was the first thing I thought about when writing this.

In general, furries normalized the worst of "being weird" and any criticism to it is met with scrutiny. You can't criticize anyone. You can't criticize anything because "how does this affect me" and that it "isn't hurting anyone."

They dare wouldn't repeat the same phrase toward a republican/right-wing furry or a furry who doesn't agree with an ideology/sexuality. That's when it starts "affecting and hurting them." Rules for thee; not for me, yada yada.

 

[Piggle-o]

This happens when you constantly repeat the phrase, "How does this affect you?

They're singing a different song.
What is it, where is it How will it affect me Fuck that shit, I need that shits bound to be the death of me

 

[Mr. Awesome Man]

Every day I thank God for not making me a furry.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

Every day I thank God for not making me a furry.

God doesn't make people furries. Satan does.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Seeing this, its the lolicon issue, just organized. And with money. That is horrifying.

 

[Piggle-o]

Seeing this, its the lolicon issue, just organized. And with money. That is horrifying.

It's like the Wish.com version of Hollywood and politics, I remember all the quiet bitching about it from within in 2008.

 

[KingFrampt]

Whippets are for losers.

Im gonna say this, but if you think that Whippets are safer than like weed, Molly or any of the “safe” party drugs. You’d have to be the lowest of the low when it comes to I.Q.

Massive dunce all around if you believe so.

People think whippets are safe because the dentist uses NOS, completely missing the point that the dentist uses a ratio of oxygen and nos rather than just nos

 

[Crispy Pancake]

A sizable portion of IT/engineering fags being troon furries who use diapers and role play as furry toddlers on the internet is not shocking at all, but it's funny that all these fags will admit it like it's some sort of power move. It's depressing but also funny simultaneously knowing that big tech companies and arms/defense companies are full of fags like this.

 

[Drip Torch]

A sizable portion of IT/engineering fags being troon furries who use diapers and role play as furry toddlers on the internet is not shocking at all, but it's funny that all these fags will admit it like it's some sort of power move. It's depressing but also funny simultaneously knowing that big tech companies and arms/defense companies are full of fags like this.

Someone telling me they work in IT triggers my flight or flight response.

 

[Pinball 2000]

This motherfucker coming across my feed. Most of the video is sweeping for Troons, defending pedophiilia, and hating "le evil Conservatives" like Libs of TikTok

I've watched Lago's content for a couple of years now, and he's even cited posts I’ve made in other threads. I respect him because he’s one of the few furry commentators who can take a neutral stance on most issues. That being said, I disagree with much of this video, so I’m hoping it’s just a one-off and not a warning sign of decline.

Since he breaks the video down into three sections/incidents, here are my thoughts on each:


1) Fursuiter walking past the kids/LibsofTikTok incident
I believe there was some fault on the fursuiter’s part. Many local businesses where I live explicitly prohibit customers from wearing costumes or masks that completely cover their heads. From various fursuiters I’ve spoken to, it’s heavily frowned upon in fursuiting culture to show up at a store or business in a fursuit without asking permission beforehand. This is primarily due to safety concerns, as fursuits limit peripheral vision, and most businesses don’t want to deal with the liability if someone gets hurt or something is damaged. At no point in Lago's video or in any of the tweets about the drama does a single person bring up the question of whether he had permission to be doing this, and honestly, it's a little infuriating to me.

I should also emphasize that when I say this is partially the fursuiter's fault, I’m not placing all of the blame on them. I somewhat agree that LibsofTikTok didn’t need to draw attention to this video in the first place because if you watch it, the fursuiter does absolutely nothing to the kid other than walk past. However, I also feel that since the fursuiter likely didn’t ask for permission from the venue, they aren’t helping their case. If you’re going to insist on wearing your fursuit in public, you should be prepared for any attention (positive or negative) that may come your way.


2) Bluefolf ruining the fandom's "reputation"
Lago’s description of the infamous Bluefolf plate video as "a leaked video" is inaccurate. This phrasing implies that Blue privately shared the video with someone who then made it public out of spite. In reality, Blue willingly posted the video in a publicly accessible Telegram chat, and it spread from there.

Regardless of the semantics surrounding what qualifies as a leak, I believe it’s understandable for people to want to distance themselves from someone who creates videos like that. Claiming "I don’t care about the fandom’s reputation" doesn’t hold up when others begin to associate you with such behavior. If you're aware of the plate video and do or say nothing, it can suggest either that you don’t have an issue with it or that you view such behavior as normal and acceptable.

Overall, I just find Lago's stance hypocritical because no one makes the same "don't care about the fandom's reputation" argument when furries express opinions that are even remotely conservative or right-leaning. In those cases, there's almost always immediate distancing and complaints that their opinions are "making the fandom look bad."


3) FA’s mass diaper ban
This might be a hot take, but I don’t believe artwork featuring underage characters and/or diapers should be posted on a platform primarily known for adult content, even if the artwork itself isn’t explicit. Just as adult magazines like Playboy wouldn’t feature images of children, it feels irresponsible at best to mix such content with adult material.

I agree with Lago's thoughts that rules and content ratings aren’t being reliably enforced on FA. It’s not uncommon to hear users claim that one mod approved an image while another mod didn’t.

There’s speculation that FA has a massive backlog of unresolved reports and support tickets, possibly dating back several years, and the staff are only now getting around to addressing them. Given the management issues at FA even before Dragoneer’s passing, this could explain why certain content is only now being removed.

edit: fixed some spelling/grammar