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Vibralldo said:
(Oh god, Trump's gonna ask for a rematch from Kamala, isn't he?)
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Nope, she kept trying to get one set up but he keeps rejecting. There is nothing left to debate, Walz got raped and Kamala just says nothing while hiding behind the mods. Trump and Vance already got whatever advantage a debate would give them.
 
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Vibralldo said:
(Oh god, Trump's gonna ask for a rematch from Kamala, isn't he?)
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I don't get the sense that he is though.

FightenGnome said:
he believes the 2020 election was legitimate
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I've thought about if the election was legitimate or not and I've come to the conclusion that it really doesn't matter if it was legit or not. The fact that people don't have faith in our election processes is a concern of a larger problem
 
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GlupShitto said:
Why? Name one person more likely to be Christ. You can't. Hell, JD sounds like Jesus.
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Keanu Reeves?

Vibralldo said:
>Biden Appoints Kamala in charge of the border
>The leftist media praises her, calls her the "Border Czar"
>She does a horrible job, lets record levels of illegals in on purpose
>Right wingers use the Border Czar nickname that the left invented to mock her
"FACT CHECK! BORDER CZAR WAS NEVER THE ACTUAL OFFICIAL NAME OF THE POSITION KAMALA HAD!"

Typical journoscum
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They're so full of shit. A government official put in charge of a specific issue is called a czar.

https://politicaldictionary.com/words/czar/
https://archive.is/ToCAD

Czar​

A “czar” is an unofficial title used to refer to high-ranking executive branch appointments.

Czars are usually given responsibility for a specific policy area and do not have to be confirmed by the U.S. Senate.

They usually have an official title, but are referred to as czars by the media: For example, the Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy is simply known as the drug czar.

Political czars are typically tasked with coordinating efforts across different government agencies, providing expertise on their specific issue, and driving the administration’s policy agenda in that area.

They often serve as the administration’s primary spokesperson on their issue and may be given a significant degree of autonomy in shaping and implementing policy.
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https://web.archive.org/web/20090927184728/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czar_(political_term)

In the United States, the term czar has been used by the media to refer to appointed executive branch officials since at least the early 1940s.[3] In 1942, The Washington Post reported on the "executive orders creating new czars to control various aspects of our wartime economy."[4] Positions were created for a transportation czar, a manpower czar, and a production czar, all to solve difficult problems in coordinating the resources necessary to fight World War II.[5] Not only did the administration of President Franklin D. Roosevelt advocate their creation; in December 1944, Republicans in Congress advocated that a "food czar" position be created that would have almost unlimited control over food pricing and distribution.[6]

Since then, a number of ad hoc temporary as well as permanent United States Executive Branch positions have been established that have been referred to in this manner. The trend began again in earnest when President Richard Nixon created two offices whose heads became known as "czars" in the popular press: drug czar in 1971,[7] and especially energy czar in December 1973[8] referring to William E. Simon's appointment as the head of the Federal Energy Administration.[9] Nixon told his cabinet that Simon would have "absolute authority" in his designated areas, and compared the intended result to Albert Speer's role as the person in unquestioned charge of armaments for the Third Reich.[10] Simon found both the informal title "czar" and the Speer comparison unsettling.[10] However, at the height of the Arab oil embargo, Simon gave the position a good name by successfully putting into place a mandatory fuel allocation program and calming public fears about shortages without resorting to explicit gasoline rationing.[11]

Other examples of this usage include "drug czar" for the head of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, "terrorism czar" for a Presidential advisor on terrorism policy, "cybersecurity czar" for the highest-ranking Department of Homeland Security official on computer security and information security policy, and "war czar" to oversee the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In 2005, the U.S. Government Accountability Office issued an opinion regarding the use of the term "drug czar" in prepackaged news stories that had been released by the Office of National Drug Control Policy during fiscal years 2002, 2003, and 2004. The GAO found that "the law does not bestow that title on the ONDCP Director". And that "ONDCP's use of the term "Drug Czar" to describe the Director of ONDCP does not constitute unlawful self-aggrandizement".[12]

The term "czar" has also been applied to officials who are not members of the Executive Branch, such as Elizabeth Warren, named to a Congressional commission to oversee the Troubled Asset Relief Program in 2009 and described as an "oversight czar",[13] and Senate-confirmed positions, such as the Director of National Intelligence, described as the "intelligence czar" in 2004.[14]
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Sithis said:
And Barron is getting into politics and has the visage of a leader at already a young age, complete with the experience and familiarity with fuckery in the Senate?
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One of the Founding Fathers, James Monroe, was only 18. Infantalisation really needs to be stopped.
 
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FightenGnome said:
True, and I'm not going to say Vance did poorly because he didn't. He did better than I expected.

However, that sort of courtesy works both ways and as someone who would never in a million years describe myself as a leftist, Walz came across as personable. I liked that he too agreed with Vance on doing more for certain issues (Healthcare, Housing, Energy,) and willing to accept that at least some of the reasons (such as mental health and immigration) that Republicans give "play" a role in some of it whereas the standard Democrat line is to ignore or dismiss them. Vance did the same thing as well for Walz. Both men generally came across as reasonable (I say generally for a reason, if "Hate Speech isn't Free Speech" is the standard for whether you think someone comes across as normal, then yeah Walz failed big time uttering that line likewise with Vance not saying whether he believes the 2020 election was legitimate).

I'm not an American so it doesn't ultimately matter what I think, but I just thought I'd throw it out there as there seems to be a lot of people that think Vance dunked all over Walz and I didn't see it that way.
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Walz got schlonged. He came off as a creepy Elmer Fudd lookin ass nigga who made weird faces all night.
 
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MeltyTW said:
i love that my own country is trying to appeal to me and other citizens in our time of criris after severe flooding ..... to fight over who helped yidsrael avoid the consequences of its own action by pulling troops and aid effort from people who need it here. i love that our country is basically a vassal for some overseas bankers and child murderers who decide how many foreign child rapists should be around my neighbors. great
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Motherfucker Trump was in NC handing out supplies earlier today. If you wanna be mad and doompost about Jews that's fine, but have some perspective.
 
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Vibralldo said:
A decisive victory for Vance
Between this and Trump doing more for the hurricane victims than Kamala or even Biden did. All Trump has to do is leave this as the final debate everyone remembers and he's golden.

(Oh god, Trump's gonna ask for a rematch from Kamala, isn't he?)
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They are kinda trying to do this thru 60 minutes somewhat but Trump's still got beef with them over how they handled the 2020 interview

Honestly at this point - any more appearances with Kamala would be more for her benefit and he already did the one debate - people can put their postal votes in so already running out of time for people who haven't made a decision yet.
 
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Vibralldo said:
A decisive victory for Vance
Between this and Trump doing more for the hurricane victims than Kamala or even Biden did. All Trump has to do is leave this as the final debate everyone remembers and he's golden.

(Oh god, Trump's gonna ask for a rematch from Kamala, isn't he?)
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Absolutely not, first off you could have the whole world tell Trump that he lost that Debate it doesn't register with him Trump feels he wins every political debate he's ever had.

Most of all Kamala's biggest weakness is that she doesn't really get attention & kudos unless she's on the same platform as Trump throwing barbs at him. There is nothing for Trump to gain by sharing another primetime political night with Kamala.
 
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FightenGnome said:
True, and I'm not going to say Vance did poorly because he didn't. He did better than I expected.

However, that sort of courtesy works both ways and as someone who would never in a million years describe myself as a leftist, Walz came across as personable. I liked that he too agreed with Vance on doing more for certain issues (Healthcare, Housing, Energy,) and willing to accept that at least some of the reasons (such as mental health and immigration) that Republicans give "play" a role in some of it whereas the standard Democrat line is to ignore or dismiss them. Vance did the same thing as well for Walz. Both men generally came across as reasonable (I say generally for a reason, if "Hate Speech isn't Free Speech" is the standard for whether you think someone comes across as normal, then yeah Walz failed big time uttering that line likewise with Vance not saying whether he believes the 2020 election was legitimate).

I'm not an American so it doesn't ultimately matter what I think, but I just thought I'd throw it out there as there seems to be a lot of people that think Vance dunked all over Walz and I didn't see it that way.
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Vance has high unfavorables due to nonstop media smear campaign. Walz was hiding almost as much as Kamala from the media.

Both came off as actual human being that you could chit chat with while your kids were paying sports together. Vance came off as presidential. Walz didnt and has more "oh shucks energy" which is personable but not presidential.

Vance won. At least on a personal level. The vp debate is to inspire the base to get out and not go home even moreso than the presidential debates. The rinos are happy with vance. Trumps side who might sit home are pleased. Kamalas sit home people are pleased only in that Walz seemed like an actual human being unlike Kamala who is whatever she thinks her audience wants her to be.
 
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RisingPhoenix said:
For me I actually liked that Walz was somewhat willing to admit his opponment had good points
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unironically this is why you don't see politicans do this, unless you're being dominant its going to be seen as a "cuck" move. Its why you really haven't seen this from a democrat in a debate at this level in a hilariously long time. All it really did was make Vance look better in the eys of literally everyone.
 
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