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It's absolutely fucking hilarious how this thread is so desperate for any sliver of hope that they're clinging onto the fucking vice presidential debate for copium fuel after Trump bombed the actual Presidential debate between the top of the ticket, then tucked tail and refused to do another.

The most memorable thing about the 2020 debate was a fly landing on Pence's head. Trump lost that election. Vance crying about being checked on his bullshit is totally going to secure Trump the win this time!

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There were so many opportunities for Trumpian style rebuttals that Vance deliberately did not pursue. When Walz talked about how he benefitted from the GI bill, Vance didn't attack him for stolen valor. When Walz tried to fearmonger over the prospect of Trump prosecuting his political enemies, Vance didn't bring up Jack Smith, Fani Willis, or Juan Merchan. There was no mention of tampons in boys' rooms or bottom surgeries for illegal alien detainees. No Haitian haute cuisine. Absent were bombastic lines like "because you'd be in jail" or "excuse me, I'm speaking."

Instead, Vance scored a decisive victory by relying solely on scholarship and the appeal of the Trump platform. I'd like to say that such a masterful performance would convince fencesitters - those that like the policies but hate the man - to turn out for Trump in November, but as others have noted, the only people bothering to tune in to a VP debate probably have already picked their horse long ago.
Some things to keep in mind. The current trajectory is Harris losing support week after week, Trump already has a lead and its widening now with only one month to make a massive shakeup. Additionally, a lot of people will hear the cliffnotes version of the debate through word of mouth, a cliffnotes version which is pretty damn one sided. Finally, this was the last real chance for them to gain any fuel against Vance and Trump.
 
Well I'm sure it's been said in the pages past I haven't read but I'm only two minutes into the debate and I'm amazed at how scared Tim Waltz looks. He looks a few moments away from going full deer in the headlights. This is going to be an interesting watch.
Not doing serious interviews (or not doing them at all) and being allowed to run away when a hard question is asked has really fucked with their ability to speak, I feel.

That's how you get lines like "I'm a knucklehead" or "I've become friends with school shooters".
 
They've been pushing this Jan 6th being the worst thing that has ever happened in US history for 3 or 4 years. You'd think after MSNBC asked a room full of Average Joes last week, where their answers ranged from "I don't know much about what happened" to "Yeah, I don't really care about that," they'd try to attack Trump from a different angle. Even trying to shame people into believing the 2020 election wasn't stolen, and was the most secure election ever isn't working (I believe it's 2/3 people think the 2020 election was shady).
 
Holy fucking shit boys I feel incredibly bad for Walz. Anyone up for some armchair psychology? These people want us dead, our children brainwashed and raped, and would not stop at ANYTHING to humiliate us - and I feel genuinely incredibly bad for Walz getting his shit pushed in like that. I felt slightly bad for Biden before but this is next level.

What is wrong with me? Is the RINO‘s allergy to winning infectious? Am I too susceptible to emotional manipulation? Anyone up for some armchair psychology?
The illegal alien thing was the most infuriating.
The communist devil quoting the bible. Walz literally did the meme.
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"Da phone app has been here since the 90's chud, they're here legally because the government brought them in."

They want to grant the horde of nearly 10 million illegals mass amnesty.
>Cheap slave labor
They get gibz so they can be hired for 2/hr and forced to work 80 hour weeks minimum. Unsustainable, just kicks the can down the road and makes the economy bomb even worse. Shit will get retarded when they eventually get cut off of gibz and start demanding more pay and can't be threatened with deportation anymore because they've just been made into citizens.
Not all the illegals are finding slavers to hire them and most just end up going homeless and resorting to crime to survive or they were already apart of a crime syndicate and are just expanding operations (the Venezuelans)
Like Springfield, it's a large town slowly dying and they nearly doubled the population with voodoo niggers. Work was already scarce there. Out of the 30k imported, at best 1k of them found work just to be used as slave labor. The rest are just being used to milk welfare (dey stimulate muh personal economy)
>White replacement
They're getting dumped primarily into areas that are majority White. When they flooded the Southwest with Mexicans the cope was that it was their land originally and that they were here before us anyway, you're just racist. Muh tacos.
>More congressional seats.
The redistricting will allow in more aspiring uniparty niggers to lockdown legislative power hard.
>A voting bloc that will vote for uniparty interests forever because of the gibz
The mexicans and niggers are cracking. We need even more niggers stat
>Milking welfare
Stuffing 20 of them into goycubes and increasing rent to get at least $5k/month by milking their vouchers.
 
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The real problem is talking about immigration? Fuuuuuuuuuuck you
The is an example of the Democrats being over emotional and not properly grasping context within speech; They cannot disect the unpleasantness out of a paragraph in order to reach the positive or root meaning. Many libnuts will ignore a fact presented in a sentence, and instead of asking a question, they make gross assumptions, attachments to the conversation, and generalizations, then shut down dialogue with accusations of bigotry.

For example, "Why do you want to seperate children from their families through deportation?" Or making retarded statements like "Being undocumented isn't a crime, I won't stand for this xenophobia."

Ignoring socioeconomic problems is like letting a wound fester. We have to talk about tough stuff or it gets worse.

Everything has to be perfectly presented or changed to their terms for them to reach a consensus, for some reason. There is no acceptance of bare minimum, humane and reasonable deportation. There must be strings attached, new buerocratic programs involved, new safe space words, and mean words are not allowed to be used when talking about illegal immigration.

Everything with today's Democrats has to be perfectly tidy and disagreements must be behind closed doors, not for anyone else to see.

Walz cannot maintain "military bearing" for some reason, which I find odd as a veteran myself.

Sure, he's retired from the Army National Guard now, but you're supposed to hold your composure and maintain a strong image in politics. He is extremely careless and not methodical. I find Walz to be constantly emotionally charged in his word choice, tone, and body language. It comes across as an insecure instability to me.

There's nothing wrong with being a little animated sometimes, but there's a limit to it. You don't go full throttle for so long without burning out or slipping, if that makes sense?

I look forward to Walz flailing his arms, turning red, and yelling stuttering falsehoods while Vance looks to the camera like "get a load of this guy" with a subtle smirk.

I knew it and called it last week!

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Holy fucking shit boys I feel incredibly bad for Walz. Anyone up for some armchair psychology? These people want us dead, our children brainwashed and raped, and would not stop at ANYTHING to humiliate us - and I feel genuinely incredibly bad for Walz getting his shit pushed in like that. I felt slightly bad for Biden before but this is next level.

What is wrong with me? Is the RINO‘s allergy to winning infectious? Am I too susceptible to emotional manipulation? Anyone up for some armchair psychology?
He really, really wanted Vance to attack him on some of his obvious weaknesses. Like his military service, or going to China. They repeatedly dangled those in front of Vance as pretty obvious bait. He probably had some real zingers prepared if Vance did so -- but Vance never did.
 
Save The Loli can't... Buudy wants to fuck the Feds or children
I just have a stupid username. Meanwhile the guy bankrolling your hero Jimmy Vance, CIA asset Peter Thiel, is a friend of Jeffrey Epstein, wants to harvest the blood of teenagers to live forever, and seems to like young boys. Jimmy might have met him at a gay orgy, or maybe after he attended and praised the 2015 San Francisco Pride Parade which a simple search shows had plenty of underage boys.

Imagine if Tim Walz was pretending to be straight while being pals with vampire pedophile billionaires. You guys would rightfully be up in arms at this sick perversion. But it's okay so long as he has (R) next to his name!
 
On a side note, as I am relatively AI generated content illiterate (a shame I know but I was dealing with personal and work shit when the floodgate opened so I missed out on the opening content flood), what's the best AI artwork generating website program (preferably free to use) that one can use to generate photos of Walz palling around with such notorious school shooters Kip Kinkel, Eric Harris, the Sandy Hook guy, etc to use for memes to clown the left online?
 
Imagine if Tim Walz was pretending to be straight while being pals with vampire pedophile billionaires.
In the wise words of @The Last Stand "I don't get it"

Tim wasn't important enough to get invited to the Epstine club, which is fine because as a coach he has his own source of young ass and he found new vampire pedophile billionaires to hang out with in China.
 
So I was correct on Vance fucking Walz, though even I was a little impressed by how he did it. I’d expected it to primarily be focusing on the fact that everything about Walz is about as flimsy as fucking wet paper towels… and I think that’s what Waltz was preparing for too. I THINK at least, because it isn’t like Waltz even really started out great or even seemed to be trying some sort of wounded gazelle gambit, he just seemed to be dogshit the whole way through, getting worse and worse and Vance focused on policy shit, which is bad for a ‘vibes’ campaign.

I’m not going to say Trump and Vance have no chance of failure now… but I think they do barring fortifications, and I’m not sure anyone in the Establishment will want to save either Waltz or Kamala after everything, not when they could end up pulling everyone else under.
 
I just had a horrifying thought. I've had the same view as you but what if they flip it and rather than use the even polling to pull off a cheat, they use it to say that Trump cheated when he wins a landslide? And then they refuse to concede?

Eh... paranoia.
2020 has set some pretty strong precedents about how fighting a fraudulent election is not allowed.
 
2020 has set some pretty strong precedents about how fighting a fraudulent election is not allowed.
It's clearly rules for thee and not for me and they will have judges who would gladly take the case if it was against Trump. Also Kamala doesn't have a Pence to certify the election against her wishes if she did want to challenge it.
 
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