Careercow Donald J Trump - 45th/47th President of the USA, convicted felon, Epstein bro, Putin simp, serial liar, sore loser, cheat and the Chris-Chan of Presidents. THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL DEBATE THREAD.

[Dr. Matthew C. Harris]

Trump rambles more nonsense

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"It's not even believable!"
Moment of clarity.

Or how about when he served college football teams who visited the White House fast food because "I know you people very well."

It was a compliment, libcuck. Don knows that every linebacker pigs out on food because it's part of their job, and to add to that equation every linebacker is a nigger. And since it's college, it's a young nigger at that. Niggers don't like fancy shit, they like KFC and McDonalds. And that's not even going into the secret menu, I bet you Don got em plenty of strippers and quality rx drugs that he had thoroughly inspected for fent.

Trump deeply respects niggers like this, and they still call him insensitive, racist, cheap. Fucking commies, Joe Biden would've tried to treat them to goddamn Japanese and Kamala would've enslaved them right then and there, and fed them Nutraloaf. God bless America.

 

[JaneThough]

You could tell Vance really didn't want to answer the "stolen" election question. My feeling is that he knows it is all bullshit, but if he came out saying it's bullshit it would cause him issues with Trump and his core voters right now, and if he said it happened, then it will harm him in the years to come if he tries to win over moderates voters in future elections.

Tim Walz facial expressions really reminded me of Ernest Borgnine during the debate. Overall both did better than the candidates they are running for VP under and was more talk about polices than the other debate.

Will say I think this is a bigger win for Vance, not saying he did better in the debate, but before the debate he was in a much worse state than Walz was, with 80% of the headlines about Vance being another dumb ass thing he said and even the MAGA being down on him.

I think Vance could have bothered admitted J6 was based on a lie, and come out sounding good. The problem is the only person watching who’s opinion matters is Trump.

Tell me which statement would have been better for his future in politics, vs his future with Trump. The one he made, or something like this “a lot of people had legitimate concerns in 2020. We investigated and yes, we got it wrong. But it’s the right of the American people to trust the integrity of our elections and the only way we can do that is through due process. Yes, Joe Biden won but there were enough questions to do an investigation and while our initial theory was incorrect, it’s important to remember that it’s the right of our citizens to know their elections are held to the highest standard. 2020 may not have proven fraud, but it reminds the American people they have a right to ask questions and I think that’s important.”

And I’m a fucking lib who believes 2020 was an absolute coup attempt. The Trump camp keep just speaking to their die hard supporters but never to the middle. The die hards aren’t going anywhere but they’re not enough to get him elected.

 

[TrainWreckSpotter]

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I thought Vance's popularity would have taken a leap. He sounded sane and rational. He must have been heavily coached because it was in such strong contrast to how he's come across so far. Walz looked more flustered.

I watched the debate on the CBS website. After it ended, the comment section was absolutely swooning over Vance, forgetting that their vote is still for Trump and Trump is still a lunatic. I can't believe Trump rant-posted throughout the debate. The best thing he could have done is to hold off his commentary until AFTER the debate and let his simp have his moment, which TBH was pretty decent damage control (until he deflected the 2020 election question). But then again, Trump doesn't know the meaning of the phrase "common sense."

 

[JaneThough]

I thought Vance's popularity would have taken a leap. He sounded sane and rational. He must have been heavily coached because it was in such strong contrast to how he's come across so far. Walz looked more flustered.

I watched the debate on the CBS website. After it ended, the comment section was absolutely swooning over Vance, forgetting that their vote is still for Trump and Trump is still a lunatic. I can't believe Trump rant-posted throughout the debate. The best thing he could have done is to hold off his commentary until AFTER the debate and let his simp have his moment, which TBH was pretty decent damage control (until he deflected the 2020 election question). But then again, Trump doesn't know the meaning of the phrase "common sense."

It’s almost like if you control the whole RNC and are constantly grifting Temu shit and NFTs to your people, you can buy as many positive comments as you want.

 

[The Southwest Strangla]

I thought Vance's popularity would have taken a leap. He sounded sane and rational. He must have been heavily coached because it was in such strong contrast to how he's come across so far. Walz looked more flustered.

I keep seeing people say “waltz is more nicer/relatable”. I guess people are seeing him as a nice neighbor while Vance seems a little more condescending. However, waltz roasting Vance over the Jan6 comment got people talking. Tbh this debate won’t sway people that much at all.

 

[Product Placement]

I think Vance could have bothered admitted J6 was based on a lie, and come out sounding good. The problem is the only person watching who’s opinion matters is Trump.

Tell me which statement would have been better for his future in politics, vs his future with Trump. The one he made, or something like this “a lot of people had legitimate concerns in 2020. We investigated and yes, we got it wrong. But it’s the right of the American people to trust the integrity of our elections and the only way we can do that is through dues process. Yes, Joe Biden won but there were enough questions to do an investigation and while our initial theory was incorrect, it’s important to remember that it’s the right of our citizens to know their elections are held to the highest standard. 2020 may not have proven fraud, but it reminds the American people they have a right to ask questions and I think that’s important.”

And I’m a fucking lib who believes 2020 was an absolute coup attempt.

Reality is if he made your statement, he wouldn't have a future, the MAGA crowd would make sure he didn't come next election, so he wouldn't have a chance to try to win over the more moderates. Is it cowardly to not combat the lie for self preservation and a political future? yes, but that has been known about him since he did a 180 on Trump compared to 2016.


Two cases
Mike Pence dropping out wasn't due to him wanting to retire, he knew his time was up for not supporting Trump's actions on Jan 6th, so rather than have MAGA be done with him, he went out of his own terms before they could.
Just look at his favourability, starts to go down after Jan 6th.

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/trackers/mike-pence-favorability

Same thing with Nikki Haley, during the republican primaries she pissed off MAGAs for daring to running against Trump. However, now she has endorsed Trump and it won't be because she now thinks he is the best candidate running for president, but because her approval rating is dogshit since running against Trump and is doing anything she can to save her ass.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/nikki-haleys-popularity-plummeted-gop-primary-voters-rcna140252

 

[TrainWreckSpotter]

Tell me which statement would have been better for his future in politics, vs his future with Trump.

Mike Pence dropping out wasn't due to him wanting to retire, he knew his time was up for not supporting Trump's actions on Jan 6th, so rather than have MAGA be done with him, he went out of his own terms before they could.
Just look at his favourability, starts to go down after Jan 6th.
https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/trackers/mike-pence-favorability

Once you're involved with Trump, you're fucked either way. MAGAs will hate you for being disloyal, and everyone else will hate you for selling your soul to him in the first place.

 

[Product Placement]

Once you're involved with Trump, you're fucked either way. MAGAs will hate you for being disloyal, and everyone else will hate you for selling your soul to him in the first place.

Think it's too soon to say, need to be many years removed from Trump to get the real picture and impact. Lot can happen, we have no idea what republican party will look like in 10 years. If you asked people in 2006 if they would have expect the republican party to turn into what it is now, would expect most would have said no.

That is what people like Vance and others who were anti-Trump republicans in 2016 but not now are waiting on.

 

[JaneThough]

@Product Placement i agree with you but also MAGA people are voting for Trump period. They make no headway continuing to court the base that won’t leave them even if they killed their puppies. The issue is Vance’s short sightedness. He’s working to keep his position on a sinking ship. MAGA will end with this election if Trump loses, which looks more and more likely. Hes only considering this election when he could be talking himself up for future endeavors.

Like him or not, history will remember Mike Pence as the man who put country over party and stopped a coup. Vance could start planting the seeds of being reasonable for the sake of his future in politics, but instead is doubling down on falsehoods that ONLY serve ONE MAN.

 

[Product Placement]

@Product Placement i agree with you but also MAGA people are voting for Trump period. They make no headway continuing to court the base that won’t leave them even if they killed their puppies. The issue is Vance’s short sightedness. He’s working to keep his position on a sinking ship. MAGA will end with this election if Trump loses, which looks more and more likely. Hes only considering this election when he could be talking himself up for future endeavors.

Like him or not, history will remember Mike Pence as the man who put country over party and stopped a coup. Vance could start planting the seeds of being reasonable for the sake of his future in politics, but instead is doubling down on falsehoods that ONLY serve ONE MAN.

Think big difference is the IF Trump loses. I agree MAGA will most likely die if he loses, but right now for for me, I'm expecting a very close election that could either way, only prediction I feel is for sure is that Kamala Harris will win the popular vote.

 

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Vance could start planting the seeds of being reasonable for the sake of his future in politics, but instead is doubling down on falsehoods that ONLY serve ONE MAN.

Speculatively, assuming this is even in his mind to do, Vance can't. Because his entire political career depends on staying on Trump's good side for the moment. The moment Trump does this to him for crossing the line:


Vance will be lashed to the Tree of Woe and used as a scapegoat.

 

[anliteralidiot]

I would respect Vance more if he didn't wear a bright magenta tie, and admitted to wearing guyliner. But he won't.

 

[Snorky]

That debate was actually really interesting to watch. Instead of hearing some old fat conman that Thunderdomers consider their waifu repeat some xenophobic bullshit story about Haitian immigrants eating dogs and cats to answer a completely unrelated question, we got to see an actual debate (even if it got heated at times) where there were actual moments of respect between the two parties. Granted, Vance kept going on and on about immigrants but he at least tried to answer some of the questions unlike the guy he's campaigning with.

 

[Dr. Matthew C. Harris]

He sounded sane and rational. He must have been heavily coached because it was in such strong contrast to how he's come across so far.

I would think the opposite: he probably did his best to avoid being coached. What Republican "coaching" looks like is Mike Johnson trying to put words in Clay Higgings' mouth that amounted to "he regrets having called for Total Nigger Death, and has prayed about it."

This lizard isn't as stupid as previously thought. He knows the way the wind's blowing, and he isn't hitching his cart to Trump's inner circle's crazy bullshit. If he did get coached by anybody it probably was 3rd parties and whatever sensible reptiles the GOP can still muster.

He tried to play along with the bullshit, now he realises that it's a sinking ship and, red dementia man be damned, he isn't sinking with it.

repeat some xenophobic bullshit story about Haitian immigrants eating dogs and cats to answer a completely unrelated question

Don't downplay it because you might or might not sound like Patrick Tomlinson. It isn't just xenophobic. It's clearly racist as shit, if you have ever seen a white Haitian I'll venmo you a cool $20.

Xenophobic (sort of because Mexican is a race in the US) is saying that Mexicans are lazy wetbacks taking our jerbs. Racist is being exasperated that America is being invaded by NIGGERS who are eating dogs and commiting other NIGGER crimes. Chuds aren't going off about Haiti, they barely fucking know where that is. They're going off about NIGGERS coming to the US, and that's why there's a lot of very flustered Southern gentlemen out there, reacting to the Haitian community in somewhat odd, exaggerated, and anachronistic ways.

 

[Oxyjen]

Vance is Thiel and Musk’s guy. They obviously think he’s sharp enough to carry a message that will succeed where Trump can’t. If they’re putting their billions behind the campaign, a high priced PR firm to coach Vance and help him succeed in debates and in the memes is surely doable.
You’re seeing very dark money at work I suspect.

 

[blahblahblah678]

JD could just as easily pull a Paul Ryan and disappear from politics if things get bad enough for him by attaching himself to the Trump train.

 

[Forte]

I am not convinced Trump won't throw Vance under the bus of he loses. I could see a world where, assuming Trump even admits he lost, will blame it of "the establishment" making him pick Vance, regardless of the truth of it.

 

[Alaskan Bullworm]

Don't forget about the part where the looney tunes cult is still around, still fellating guns while fantasizing about a spray tanned bloated dementia patient getting revenge on people who hurt his feelings.

Fuckin McDonald's brained, thinking it takes one event to dismantle the Republic. Luckily there's Thiel and Musk money keeping them on script.

It really does feel like were part of a bad warner brothers cartoon doesnt it i doubt even bugz bunny wants to get us out of this mess haha

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Not even 12 hours later, JD dropped his nice guy act he had on stage

Really comes across as the type of guy who shit talks you behind your back but then acts super nice when you're polite. I wonder how he truly feels about God King Trump

 

[JaneThough]

I would respect Vance more if he didn't wear a bright magenta tie, and admitted to wearing guyliner. But he won't.

He’s been SWFing Trump with his blue suit/red tie thing.