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I honestly don't get where people are saying that Walz was being nice.
Because Walz appeared unaggressive, cowardly, and rather pathetic. For Republicans who've dealt with absolute vitriol, a guy who just turns into a shaking nervous wreck when talking and not outright screaming NAZI is considered socially acceptable.
In reality, Walz is as them all, except he is a coward, and cowards are just as dangerous, if not more so, than the brave when allowed.
 
Some things to keep in mind. The current trajectory is Harris losing support week after week, Trump already has a lead and its widening now with only one month to make a massive shakeup. Additionally, a lot of people will hear the cliffnotes version of the debate through word of mouth, a cliffnotes version which is pretty damn one sided. Finally, this was the last real chance for them to gain any fuel against Vance and Trump.
No wonder you people lack the ability to comprehend Trump losing. You've somehow rewritten reality in your head to make it seem like Trump hasn't been historically unpopular for the past decade.

The last part about the "cliffnotes" of the debate is funny. "Damn, Kamala's VP didn't do so hot in a debate against Trump's VP? Guess I'll vote for Trump, the guy who lost to Kamala Harris in a debate for the presidency, as President!" Totally consistent logic! Base your vote for the presidency on the side-position that has no real power outside of tiebreaking and being a warm body to occupy the presidency in case of an emergency.
Which presidential debate did Trump bomb? The on against the actual President that got arse-blasted so bad he had to retire on a beach, or the one against the VICE PRESIDENT that the left are desperately clinging on to?

You're such a drooling fucking retarded that your keyboard must waterproof.
Trump destroyed PRESIDENT Biden so badly that PRESIDENT Biden gave the fuck up.
VICE PRESIDENT Kamala Harris debated Trump and the left are holding up a VICE PRESIDENT debating as a win.
Hey faggot, what job are both Kamala and Trump running for? I'll answer it since you don't seem to have the braincells: Kamala is the Democratic candidate for the Presidency of the United States. Trump is the Republican candidate for the Presidency of the United States. Kamala is not running for the Vice Presidency. Tim Walz and JD Vance are.

Trying to write Kamala off because she's the current Vice Presidency is some really funny cope. Trump isn't even in office, why are you championing some convicted sex offender and fraudster succeeding at the first debate as a win?
 
i love that my own country is trying to appeal to me and other citizens in our time of criris after severe flooding ..... to fight over who helped yidsrael avoid the consequences of its own action by pulling troops and aid effort from people who need it here. i love that our country is basically a vassal for some overseas bankers and child murderers who decide how many foreign child rapists should be around my neighbors. great
A major conflict is about to break out in the Middle East possibly leading to another world war involving a historical ally and enemy of the US who is also the hegemon of the world albeit a weakened one. The leader of the US will have to be involved therefore bringing it up in a debate between the number 2 of both parties fighting to be that leader is legitimate no matter how much you hate jews.
 
I honestly don't get where people are saying that Walz was being nice.

He literally started off the debate trying to bait Vance with a "crowd size" comment. When that didn't work, he became a frantic deer caught in the headlights.

Being nice? He was being outclassed by Vance entirely. He was Vance's bitch last night, and he was able to stifle himself from having a tantrum on stage (so ... Good on him for that I guess lol).
I think it's more that he didn't project the mad soulless bitch energy Kamala does.
 
@Neil Can you fuck off to whatever bullshit flavor of containment thread you're normally in? Clearly you and a few other posters in recent days  fundamentally experience and perceive things differently. It's that, or you're so convinced of your own view as to incessantly screech the same bullshit.

Go vote for Kamala. You deserve her.
 
electoral vote tallies based on NYTimes polling, if you take into account the error from 2022 and 2020. the political environment sure doesn't feel like 2022 to me right now

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2022 Trump voters stayed home, didn't participate and the recent abortion ruling riled up some people thr wrong way.

The entire political climate has turned the other way in favor of trump. Republicans are registering more voters to their party for the first time in decades. That is unheard of.

Vance is the future of the republican party. There is no way around it. Either conform or be left behind. Trump Republican party is the only solution to saving America.
 
2022 Trump voters stayed home, didn't participate and the recent abortion ruling riled up some people thr wrong way.

The entire political climate has turned the other way in favor of trump. Republicans are registering more voters to their party for the first time in decades. That is unheard of.

Vance is the future of the republican party. There is no way around it. Either conform or be left behind. Trump Republican party is the only solution to saving America.
I like Vance a lot more after last night and I was watching him with captions.

No matter what they did he just kind of seemed...above it.
 
1 day. And it's not even everything, it's just the first page of results in my spam folder.

Never, ever, donate money to anyone.
Seems less annoying than receiving alerts from that insipid Kamala Wins account on Twitter. I don't even know how that's happening given that I block everything politics related on social media.
Because Walz appeared unaggressive, cowardly, and rather pathetic. For Republicans who've dealt with absolute vitriol, a guy who just turns into a shaking nervous wreck when talking and not outright screaming NAZI is considered socially acceptable.
The media has kissed the Democrats asses for so long and so hard that now their candidates can't deal with anything but the softest of softballs. Even their next golden boy Newsom falls apart to any kind of pressure (see him with Adam Carolla).
 
It’s never been more Joever, Kamala Klan!

When even the Guardian’s expert/gatekeeper panel says that the Dem Veep candidate screwed the pooch, you know it’s bad.

lmao, as I’ve said, they’re coping and trying so hard not to state the obvious: Vance won.

Slight PL, but I once had a job where they hired a woman who wanted to move everything in house, so she started to complain often about our job. Her bosses didn’t particularly agree with her but they thought she was good at giving feedback. One day, we delivered our best work and I knew that whatever comments we received, they would be petty. Sure enough, we were shown very tiny flaws that did nothing to improve the product, or even misconceptions that had no basis in reality. In the end, we kept the client and they were happy.

Those comments remind me a lot of what’s going on with Vance. They know they can’t outright admit that he did amazing, so they’re going through this “no clear winning”/“slight edge performance bullshit.
 
I expected Walz to be catty, but he came across to me as a nice dude. Sweaty and fidgety, but not evil. I'm sure there are skeletons in his closet with respect to China, but we'll see what happens there.

When Vance extended condolences to Walz, especially regarding his son witnessing a shooting, Walz took it and did not attempt to turn it around in any way. This was kind of a big deal to me because that takes serious guts. A humble person will take well wishes from a rival, acknowledge it, and take it for what it is. A lesser man would have taken that and turned it into a "Republicans pounce" point in the debate, but Walz did not do that.

I'm still pro-Trump and I'm even more pro-Vance after this debate, but I like Walz a lot more and hate Kamala a lot more for treating him the way that she does.
I really want to like Walz but the fact that he passed the child trans surgery bill in his state is such a deal breaker for me. I just hope he did it out of ignorance more than anything.
 
Seems less annoying than receiving alerts from that insipid Kamala Wins account on Twitter.
That account that immediately changed from Biden's Wins? It's wild. It's blatant falsehoods and spin so obvious as to be fucking parody. I'm wondering if it's extremely veiled satire.
 
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