Troonslop "Retro" Games / Demake games / PS1 Trannies / ULTRAKILL / Y2K trannies - Retro gaming is infected

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What happened to the ULTRAKILL community is very similar to what happened to the fandom for an equally violent series: Madness Combat. It’s become infested with troons, degeneracy, and softies obsessed with gore but are simultaneously the epitome of be gay do crime safe edgy.
Troons always tend to gravitate towards "over the top" violent or flashy games like like UK or postal. You see a lot of overlap with games like Metal Gear Rising, DMC, and even shit like modded Terraria of all things. I feel like speedrunning as a concept is born out of something similar (or probably just autism)
I had something insightful to finish off with but I'm struggling to put it into words so fuck trannies for ruining cool shit I like.
 
The stinkditch is very deep. They are moderating and controlling the biggest Doom oriented community AKA Doomworld. From source port developers, to mods, and of course, to jannies, they're everywhere.
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This is how this "woman" looks like.
I only ever skimmed your post the last few times I looked in on here but only just now did I realize that's a post by Esselfortium, whose music I actually did like from some of the WADs I've played, and that makes me a little depressed.

I was loosely aware he trooned out some time ago, but it's that smugness about it that bugs me the most.
 
Francis Xie - lives somewhere in taiwan
Wiki screencap says he works (worked?) on Gloomwood, and yet the Steam page doesn't list him in the Developer section, weird. Doesn't help that there seems to be no credits inside the game either.
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Troons always tend to gravitate towards "over the top" violent or flashy games like like UK or postal. You see a lot of overlap with games like Metal Gear Rising, DMC, and even shit like modded Terraria of all things. I feel like speedrunning as a concept is born out of something similar (or probably just autism)
I had something insightful to finish off with but I'm struggling to put it into words so fuck trannies for ruining cool shit I like.
It's a shame, really. Because a lot of these games mentioned (especially in the case of Metal Gear Rising and DMC) have a lot of solid qualities behind them. But the issue is that a lot of these trannies don't appreciate them beyond a surface-level enjoyment. Similarly to fujos who congregate in these circles, their interpretation & appreciation of the media they consume is so shallow that it begs the question of whether or not they actually like it.

It's very similar to how TF2 Workshop creators treat TF2's artstyle & fundamental design principles as a suggestion, rather than being the guideline to creating solid cosmetics that fit with the tones, themes, and stylization of the game that was set by the developers during its development years ago. There's no deeper appreciation for the game or the design that came with it. They only want to create things that look cool to them in the moment.

ULTRAKILL is no exception either. Despite how utterly pozzed the community is, ULTRAKILL, on a fundamental level, is solid. But the issue is that the majority of people who call themselves "Fans" of ULTRAKILL only care about the aesthetics & the community surrounding the game. There's no deeper appreciation for what the developers have done, only that it exists and that it's "cool" and "stylish".

Another thing I don't really like about ULTRAKILL is how directionless the game feels. According to Hakita himself, the story was outlined by a co-writer who helped clean up some of the bad aspects of the initial draft. And it really does show throughout the game that at LEAST the story itself was planned ahead of time. But in terms of gameplay? It feels less and less deliberate as time goes on. Hell, even Hakita admitted that one of the most fundamental features of the game, shotgun boosting (where you fire and then punch the bullet to excel it) came from a bug. Hakita is very lucky that the game's core design is fun. Because games with a lack of clear design intention (with the only focus being how "cool" the idea would be) tend to vary in quality, usually being an utter mess of a game. But that's indie game development for you.
 
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I think he was a concept artist. Those don't usually get added to the main dev list
You'd think a wiki would at least source the claims made for better 'research', but what do I know?
Gloomwood, and yet the Steam page doesn't list him in the Developer section
In case anyone wondering, these are their X/Twitter profiles, Dillon Rogers @TafferKing451, David Szymanski @DUSKdev, Nate Berens @ludodrome, Thomas Porta @TPTP_dev, didn't find anything immediately egregious, Thiefchads stay winning, don't give New Blood money.

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Troons always tend to gravitate towards "over the top" violent or flashy games like like UK or postal. You see a lot of overlap with games like Metal Gear Rising, DMC, and even shit like modded Terraria of all things. I feel like speedrunning as a concept is born out of something similar (or probably just autism)
I had something insightful to finish off with but I'm struggling to put it into words so fuck trannies for ruining cool shit I like.
One thing I've noticed is that games that tend to skew more realistic (real is brown) style-wise and have slower gameplay are less likely to attract troons or any related unsavory characters. Meanwhile, and this is something I've been researching for a long while now, pretty much anything with color that bears a passing resemblance to games made in Japan or made with more "game-like" sensibilities, aesthetics, and so are what lead to infestation.

I dunno if it really is it's autism that's eniterly at fault, given the later kind has also attracted plenty of people from outside the autistic spectrum. Think back to ShreddedNerd's videos on Millenial Writing and Millennial Characters. In the later, he has footage of games like Talos Principle in the background and generally focuses on discussing FPSes like Halo in most of his normal videos. He's a far more down-to-earth commentator, and notes how a lot of characters made with "millennial" sensibilities use far too many colors, let alone far more saturated colors that don't quite gel with the rest of the media's palette.

It's almost like people who like games like UltraKill are the kinds of people who can't hold themselves together mentally. If you were to go watch Max0r's videos on Ultrakill, it pretty much conveys how it must feel from the perspective of mentally ill people who can't seem to sit down, slow down, or stop and think for a bit.

At this point, I'm fully expecting someone to make a video essay or something similar within the next few years about how games that are more "game-like", "arcade-like", fast-paced or the like are bad for you and why slower games like cover shooters (Gears and CoD) and the like are "good for you". Meanwhile, playing more "game-like" games are what lead to people becoming troons, degens, furries, etc. The video would probably use excuses like how it helps with stunted development and would be smuthered in Wojak references.

Though to be fair, video games are the type of thing that's always been for the social outcast, even as gaming's become more popular and mainstream. Using what games you play as a way of determining your maturity is pretty retarded.
 
don't give New Blood money.
New Blood likes to claim they hate money (which is odd considering how often they push sales and merchandise). Might as well pirate their games and really test the limits of that statement.

I think you're reading way too much into a whole genre just because a handful of examples are pozzed.

I'm also surprised you assume furries and troons also aren't into Gears and CoD. They love those games too.
 
video games have always been, and will continue to be an overwhelmingly male hobby, something about being mechanical and/or being strategic as always seemed to click in the heads of men, probably for evolutionary reasons or something.

however, video games are also consider THE safe haven for a lot of the more socially isolated and "unwanted" men who don't have much to look to forward to IRL .

the rise of the trans community starting from the mid 2010's onwards are in part, a result of them presenting a way for these lonely men to feel appreciated, to have a community they feel THEY belong to, and so more of these gamers started "transitioning", remember that they still keep their love of the vidya after this.

it's not really that the trannies invaded video games, the gamers who were already dedicated to them just simply trooned out

that said, I think Ultrakill is an interesting unique case in which the developers actively engaged and pandered to these degenerates as much as possible, turning to the entire fandom into the cringiest fucking thing I have seen since Undertale 2016-2018, now half the discussion just seems to be sex joke #2434646, even worse is they pop up in places completely unrelated to the game for no particular reason, remember when Jojo was the hottest anime in the internet?, yep, same thing.
 
however, video games are also consider THE safe haven for a lot of the more socially isolated and "unwanted" men who don't have much to look to forward to IRL .

the rise of the trans community starting from the mid 2010's onwards are in part, a result of them presenting a way for these lonely men to feel appreciated, to have a community they feel THEY belong to, and so more of these gamers started "transitioning", remember that they still keep their love of the vidya after this.

it's not really that the trannies invaded video games, the gamers who were already dedicated to them just simply trooned out
In a way, part of that could be seen as the side effect of 2010s Feminism. One of the main things feminists were pushing at the time was gay marriage, primarily on the lesbian side of things (Why else would 'Lesbian' be the first word in the alphabet acronym?) and this led to the social hierarchy being changed to "Men want women, but women want other women."

Because women tried to push the idea online (especially on Tumblr) that women can be just as good, if not better than men, many socially outcasted men who were into nerdy things like video games decided to troon out as a way to hopefully salvage themselves and their potential at a relationship, or fill in the hole left by them ending up as incels (Hence the "If I can't get a GF, I'll be come the GF" thing).

I think one common denominator I see in online communities both back then and now is that they share a lot in common with High School and College fraternity groups. You have a bunch of rowdy kids living and making the most out of their youth, rejecting the authority brought upon them by the adults, and being degenerates whenever the situation calls for it. Smoking, doing drugs, banging girls at parties, looking at porn mags/sites, and so on.

And it was this attitude that would become the forefront of early Internet culture on sites like Something Awful, Newgrounds, and early YouTube. The people who came to the Internet first were 20-somethings that were living their lives with that aforementioned attitude. You had people cranking out crude and crass animations as a way of sticking it to the comparatively safe cartoons meant for kids, trying to cram in all the sex jokes and swears as humanly possible not just as a way of being counter-cultural, but for it to basically be the biggest display of "F you Mom! F you Dad!" as humanly possible.

Even if a lot of these people, and the generation beneath them, would troon out, the idea of being obnoxious, annoying, and frat-like never truly went away. Only now they've basically made the fact that they're trying to be the opposite gender they were born as the core part of their personality. They'll post gifs of Neko-Arc with "cry about it" as the caption whenever people oppose them online because they never truly abandoned that ego-driven High-school-kid mentality.

It isn't just "You will never be a real woman", it's also "Deep inside, you will always be a man."
 
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the rise of the trans community starting from the mid 2010's onwards are in part, a result of them presenting a way for these lonely men to feel appreciated, to have a community they feel THEY belong to, and so more of these gamers started "transitioning", remember that they still keep their love of the vidya after this.
So basically, it's almost like "prison gay" rules, but with the freedom of being able to break out past a heavily restricted social hemisphere.

You know what? The rise of troondom kind of makes sense when framed like that.
 
If these retarded degenerates decide to infest Cruelty Squad I'm gonna fucking lose it.

I just jinxed it didn't I?
in my dying breath remember that cruelty squad was never about trannies
way too late, i joined the cruelty squad discord server months ago, as i was desperate to speak to like-minded cruelty squad enthusiasts and I wasn't really tapped into the Farms yet, and saying they infested it wouldn't do it justice, it felt more like I was an infestation in their hive. I made it a little game too, any time I'd see a "she/her" in chat (about 90% of users) I'd go check their message history for the key words estrogen and hrt. and who's surprised? without. fail.
I haven't really used a big community discord server since 2021 so I may not be a good judge of this, but that was easily the most pozzed server I had ever been in.
Soured my feelings about CS a bit, I must admit...
 
way too late, i joined the cruelty squad discord server months ago, as i was desperate to speak to like-minded cruelty squad enthusiasts and I wasn't really tapped into the Farms yet, and saying they infested it wouldn't do it justice, it felt more like I was an infestation in their hive. I made it a little game too, any time I'd see a "she/her" in chat (about 90% of users) I'd go check their message history for the key words estrogen and hrt. and who's surprised? without. fail.
I haven't really used a big community discord server since 2021 so I may not be a good judge of this, but that was easily the most pozzed server I had ever been in.
Soured my feelings about CS a bit, I must admit...
it's become clear to me if you're ever operating a community of some kind, it's best to assume the role of dictator and not let any troonish element prosper. they are a tumor and there's only one answer for dealing with tumors. i once used to tolerate the transsexual, but this tolerance has been time and time again proven to be a mistake. they take more than they give and sic their chasers allies on you the moment you challenge them. it's best to never allow them the opportunity to gain power, instead, don't be afraid to wield it against those vile vultures.
 
it's become clear to me if you're ever operating a community of some kind, it's best to assume the role of dictator and not let any troonish element prosper. they are a tumor and there's only one answer for dealing with tumors. i once used to tolerate the transsexual, but this tolerance has been time and time again proven to be a mistake. they take more than they give and sic their chasers allies on you the moment you challenge them. it's best to never allow them the opportunity to gain power, instead, don't be afraid to wield it against those vile vultures.
I think what ultimately led to so many of these communities becoming as infested as they are (and this is something I will discuss in detail later down the line) is that it's not that these properties catered to troons specifically. Rather, the troons just showed up, and no one did or said anything about it. If we are talking 2014-2016, then at the time most people really couldn't have predicted how bad things would get. Go past that, and you enter the "if you oppose us, you are transphobic and NEED to be heckin' cancelled!" phase.

Also, if you were to implant a "no troons" rule on your Discord server, what are the chances the troons wouldn't tattle-tale you on the Discord staff (who need I remind you, are left-leaning, gay furries, and Jewish) and they would nuke your server as a result?
 
But in terms of gameplay? It feels less and less deliberate as time goes on. Hell, even Hakita admitted that one of the most fundamental features of the game, shotgun boosting (where you fire and then punch the bullet to excel it) came from a bug.
Yeah, the second half is a mess. The grappling points becoming irrelevant, the rushed rocket launcher introduction, the difficulty becoming even more inconsistent… When the game is “complete” I don’t think it would be good for a newcomer to play from beginning to end without having to wait for updates.
way too late, i joined the cruelty squad discord server months ago, as i was desperate to speak to like-minded cruelty squad enthusiasts and I wasn't really tapped into the Farms yet, and saying they infested it wouldn't do it justice, it felt more like I was an infestation in their hive. I made it a little game too, any time I'd see a "she/her" in chat (about 90% of users) I'd go check their message history for the key words estrogen and hrt. and who's surprised? without. fail.
I haven't really used a big community discord server since 2021 so I may not be a good judge of this, but that was easily the most pozzed server I had ever been in.
Soured my feelings about CS a bit, I must admit...
That’s how all discord servers are regardless of the specific community, is it not? Trannies run the moderation teams and ban all people who are critical of them, while the tranny users get to do whatever the fuck they want and it becomes a giant cesspit.
I’m surprised cruelty squad would attract those people with how grotesque it is, along with how little women there are in the game… but with pyrocynical reviewing it, I can see where they came from.
 
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