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[S.C.U.D.]

The hilarious thing is that his fellow Indians all own/want to own cars:

I'd rather they don't, just today I watched an Indian man roll through a stop sign without even slowing down.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

"By living in a cardboard box and not having any possessions, I have saved thousands of dollars which I use to invest and do nothing with besides reinvest"

By living in a tent I have so much money to invest in Booze and Meth.

 

[A Random Lurker]

Comparatively, TSA will let you put a live lobster in checked baggage).

Apologies for the plane sperging, Most airlines offer cargo services for sea food or live animals (besides normal pets), stuff like exotic reptiles, live fish, or other highly perishable stuff like flowers or organs. So there's procedures in place for the store, move, and screen that kind of stuff. Since most domestic flights in the Continental US are below 7 hours animals really aren't at a high risk of dying unattended like they would on a 17 hour east to west coast train ride so it makes sense that Amtrak wouldn't want them dying in the cargo area in transit.

 

[Midwit]

appearantly an Rx zombie

Could you explain for a non-American?

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Could you explain for a non-American?

Rx = prescription.

So a druggie but legal.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Could you explain for a non-American?

They don't use the Rx symbol in Euroland? It's practically a symbol for any pharmacy.

 

[Islamic Taylor Swift]

Rail is a great way to travel if you cannot fly or just want to enjoy the journey.

I took Amtrak a few times in the early 2010s, never incredibly far or anything, maybe 4-6 hour trips. It was always ridiculously comfortable, food was fine and I actually really liked this turkey gouda wrap I got, being able to wander is great, the views are awesome, wifi was good. It really is chill as hell. But also inconvenient to the point of unusability if you're operating under even the vaguest time constraints or trying to get anywhere remotely far off.

Fun novelty and I'd recommend anyone take a few hours long trip somewhere just for the experience but using rail as a means of getting from Point A to Point B for any reason other than "idk the train seems cool" will never make sense to anyone.

 

[unaboomer]

By forgoing ownership you also forfeit the utility that it brings you.

The bottom of the rabbit hole for the most extreme urbanist is everything must achieve 100% utilization. "You don't shit 24 hours a day, you don't need your own toilet".

 

[quaawaa]

The bottom of the rabbit hole for the most extreme urbanist is everything must achieve 100% utilization. "You don't shit 24 hours a day, you don't need your own toilet".

You joke but a lot of apartments in places like NYC already have shared toilets.

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[IdiotPlusPlus]

The hilarious thing is that his fellow Indians all own/want to own cars:

I can imagine, one of our work guys over there has to carpool the hour drive to site and it fucks up international meetings lol, doesn't help in general they have such a shit-house work culture over there as well.

You joke but a lot of apartments in places like NYC already have shared toilets.

What is with these assholes and wanting to live like 19th century working poor, those slums were torn down for being horrific conditions to live in.
I dunno if it's just a LARP or they are really that stupid they want society to devolve so bad, we moved to single family houses from slums to give people a better life, instead of dying early from TB or being crushed to death in a Victorian Workhouse...

 

[Atypical Dog]

By living in a tent I have so much money to invest in Booze and Meth.

based and drugpilled, you need every bit of help you can get to make clown world make sense.

Oh, all pubic transport is a disaster, but in regards to number of riders, the LA transit system has gone from lol haha joke to eh, meh, works, kinda. That's a huge success story!


From wikedpedo - and more from https://opa.metro.net/MetroRidership/

Year	Total Ridership	Total Passenger Miles
2009	459,082,396	2,020,935,862
2014	459,195,234	2,103,858,916
2019	370,480,743	1,780,355,008
2023	288,088,023	1,185,939,105

ok disregard me, I suck cocks. They somehow fucked up a good thing they had going and it was already trending down before covid.

I blame niggers

One of the few places where you have the population density and a huge concentration of people who can pay for public transit and don't want cars and they still managed to fuck it up.

Unless you get a coach seat...the leg room is nice and it's bigger than a US domestic first class seat but you will be looking at Hot Pockets and Doritos for dinner instead of a meal.

home cooked food!

 

[Markass the Worst]

What is with these assholes and wanting to live like 19th century working poor, those slums were torn down for being horrific conditions to live in.
I dunno if it's just a LARP or they are really that stupid they want society to devolve so bad, we moved to single family houses from slums to give people a better life, instead of dying early from TB or being crushed to death in a Victorian Workhouse...

It's not a coincidence. They constantly talk about how cities were better 100 years ago when there weren't hecking evil cars clogging up the roads (forgetting to mention the horses that did clog up the roads).

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

It's not a coincidence. They constantly talk about how cities were better 100 years ago when there weren't hecking evil cars clogging up the roads (forgetting to mention the horses that did clog up the roads).

They think that they will be the Gilded Era Railway Barons with townhouse McMansions and Cottage Country Estates instead of the lowly paid Irish servant / service worker

 

[Xarpho's Return]

New multifamily dwellings in cities are lately taking their design cues from upscale houses in the suburbs, packing in immense en suite bathrooms with double sinks and mammoth kitchen islands even if those features waste our limited urban space.

This begs a question--why are urbanists always freaking out about space and size? It's true that city limits have finite space, if you want to remain within, say, Chicago's city limits, most of that has developed. But the Chicago area still grows out.

But when you go from "no, stalker child, you shouldn't have free parking" to "no, stalker child, you shouldn't have a toilet in your apartment that isn't shared with others" that has to be pathological, right?

 

[Meriasek]

This begs a question--why are urbanists always freaking out about space and size? It's true that city limits have finite space, if you want to remain within, say, Chicago's city limits, most of that has developed. But the Chicago area still grows out.

But when you go from "no, stalker child, you shouldn't have free parking" to "no, stalker child, you shouldn't have a toilet in your apartment that isn't shared with others" that has to be pathological, right?

It is. They are just obsessed with the idea of communal living where people share as much as possible and where private space is limited to the bare minimum.
It's kinda weird. They want this privateless communal living, yet at the same time love the urban anonymity. I think it's just subconscious laziness and lack of personality. They wouldn't know what to do with too much space that they'd have to imprint their own personality on, because they don't really have one. They just want to be part of the faceless crowd and crawl into their cozy little shoebox when their spoons run out or something.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

I blame the minimalism craze for the "you will have no private bathroom and you will be happy" mindset. I've shared bathrooms in the past in college, and in other roommate situations, and having a bathroom all to myself is infinitely preferable. If your shower schedule overlaps with someone else who uses that bathroom you're fucked. Shared bathrooms are just like public transit, when given the option people will always choose to eschew it in favor of something more private.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

I blame the minimalism craze for the "you will have no private bathroom and you will be happy" mindset. I've shared bathrooms in the past in college, and in other roommate situations, and having a bathroom all to myself is infinitely preferable. If your shower schedule overlaps with someone else who uses that bathroom you're fucked. Shared bathrooms are just like public transit, when given the option people will always choose to eschew it in favor of something more private.

The college life is exactly it. They’re literally cargo-culters: trying to recreate that wonderful college lifestyle where young women didn’t scream and call for the cops just by seeing them.

They think that forcing dorm life on everyone for all time will make them happy. But they are 1. too stupid to realize the problems and 2. too scared/poor to just go back to college. Colleges don’t really care how old you are - but doing so would make them confront that they’re creepy incels.

The worst is a shared toilet that you and those you share it with have to clean. At least with one restroom per floor you’ll usually have some underpaid immigrant slave to clean for you.

 

[Atypical Dog]

They think that forcing dorm life on everyone for all time will make them happy. But they are 1. too stupid to realize the problems and 2. too scared/poor to just go back to college. Colleges don’t really care how old you are - but doing so would make them confront that they’re creepy incels.

This is hard for me to fathom (partly because I never dormed). Eat, work, have fun, repeat is great when you're single and relatively uncommitted but there's a lot of things that make you take responsibility and are tough to do without a car, a spare home office room, or just not sticking to a schedule.

It's kinda weird. They want this privateless communal living, yet at the same time love the urban anonymity. I think it's just subconscious laziness and lack of personality. They wouldn't know what to do with too much space that they'd have to imprint their own personality on, because they don't really have one. They just want to be part of the faceless crowd and crawl into their cozy little shoebox when their spoons run out or something.

This is actually more relatable to me, sounding more like just wanting to get on with it and not wanting to talk to people. Unfortunately as peak comfy as that may sound even my reclusive ass knows it's neither sustainable nor desirable, and only possible because everyone else communicates well around you.

On-topic addition: I went to a hearing for a comprehensive land use plan today (legally gotta have one every 5y but haven't had one since 1997) Learned some interesting stuff about how our municipality has issues due to being 40% mountain, 30% military and trubal reservation, and generously only 30% usable flat land. Highway frontage is scarce, which is a big reason why that town has languished, sandwiched between two bigger ones.

That and corruption in the form of the town's legislative body asking for money under the table for rezoning parcels. But that's par for the course.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

The college life is exactly it. They’re literally cargo-culters: trying to recreate that wonderful college lifestyle where young women didn’t scream and call for the cops just by seeing them.

They think that forcing dorm life on everyone for all time will make them happy. But they are 1. too stupid to realize the problems and 2. too scared/poor to just go back to college. Colleges don’t really care how old you are - but doing so would make them confront that they’re creepy incels.

The worst is a shared toilet that you and those you share it with have to clean. At least with one restroom per floor you’ll usually have some underpaid immigrant slave to clean for you.

My time in college wasn't the greatest and I admittedly did not live in a dorm—I did spend one semester sharing a house with a few other guys, but even the obsession with trying to recreate college life in a real city has to come with a realization that they're viewing college life with a distorted lens.

For starters, moving into a dorm can be exciting, but I also know that in that time cars were jam-packed against the side streets that are normally blocked to vehicular traffic, and moving in and out of an apartment really sucks, not just because your car/U-HAUL truck is two floors down and a walk away but you want eyes on everything to prevent someone from walking off with your possessions.

No one wants to stay in a dorm during holidays and other times when things are closed, and even weekends are sleepy. Of course, Chang and Pajeet can't go home for the holidays because they can't afford an international round-trip ticket, but they usually live off-campus anyway.

The other thing is that they don't want to actually build the community they had in college. Until the late 1980s apartments could legally ban families from renting units (and there were all sorts of "singles apartments" where affluent men and women could live in apartments, hang out in the tennis courts and swimming pools, and hook up—and I'm sure even in this thread the allure of never having to deal with a brood of third-worlders/non-whites is hard to pass up). Modern apartments still have clubhouses where events are hosted, but these aren't mentioned.

In the campus where I went, many of the dorms had some sort of nearby food court that was open to students and had walk-up counters, a convenience store, and a full-service dining center. (I had a favorite one of these in college even though I didn't live in the particular dorms...though the full dining center had closed due to fire code violations/lack of use...I don't quite remember the specifics). No one mistook the convenience store for a full grocery store, which was always off-campus (and the one that was closest to campus moved out in 1997 never to reopen; it was demolished fifteen years later and to this day is an empty lot). You don't see urbanists ask for this type of tenant mix (usually vague "mixed use" with a bodega and bar), and solutions like an apartment building connected to underground tunnels where this sort of thing is still found (like in Houston, of course) is seen as bad because tunnels rob "street life" (whatever that means) despite having a lot of what they really want.

In regards to the roommate situation, roommates are always a gamble in college (everyone has horror stories) and an even bigger gamble outside of college. In non-college situations bathrooms aren't cleaned by the landlord so you have to share cleaning duties, and that's assuming your toiletmate isn't some psychopath who sprays shit or period blood on the walls.

 

[quaawaa]

Filipino /r/fuckcars user is mad that no one wants to walk outside in the heat:



This is what the area looks like on Google Maps, it's a single strip of buildings next to an indoor shopping mall:

No one is on that street because it looks brand new and the stores aren't open (Street View is dated Aug 2024):

On the bit a little bit to the north where the retail is occupied, there does appear be a lot of customers:

Also, all the photos on Google Maps with people are taken at night, which makes sense if it's hot during the day.






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@Atypical Dog , you live in the Philippines, right?