Hurricane Helene / Invest 97L

So are the reports that the feds are blocking off the damaged areas and trying to kill everyone trapped there merited or what
Whether or not the feds are doing much to help is questionable, but stories of them directly causing problems are bullshit. Most of the connections I have in two hard hit areas are saying it's mostly volunteers on clean-up, local authorities handling welfare checks and rescue, and red cross / local governments dealing with shelters and food distribution.

I have no idea where the rumors were coming from about seizure of donations, but I have heard of some dipshits trying to offload half spoiled meat from their freezers getting turned away.

There are hotlines for wellness checks on friends and family in the more rural areas. I'm sure the more hard hit areas are blocked off, but not for any federal bullshit.
 
So are the reports that the feds are blocking off the damaged areas and trying to kill everyone trapped there merited or what
I wouldn't trust reports from random posts from random people unless the people reporting them are genuinely credible themselves, such as local law enforcement. I've seen so much fake shit passed around that I don't really believe anything unless law enforcement says so, or there's actual videos/photos.
 
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Fatality count rises to at least 191. Deadliest hurricane in the US since Katrina. Source for the 191 fatalities
We still do not have any communication in many, many counties. They are unable to report fatalities or missing people.
 
So are the reports that the feds are blocking off the damaged areas and trying to kill everyone trapped there merited or what

Considering what went down during Katrina and what happend in Hawaii, it's probably warranted. Probably not to the extent that the hysteria is drumming it up, but I guarantee you there are feds power-tripping over there right now.
 
So are the reports that the feds are blocking off the damaged areas and trying to kill everyone trapped there merited or what

here's a guy getting threatened with arrest for rescuing people and being forced to leave a man stranded by threat of prosecution. not a random guy either, two volunteersm firefighters in a helicopter.
 

here's a guy getting threatened with arrest for rescuing people and being forced to leave a man stranded by threat of prosecution. not a random guy either, two volunteersm firefighters in a helicopter.
I guess they're not just grifters who are doomposting for money.

So @MSG Addict is the authority on the subject? Cool. Tell me exactly how many are missing and how many are dead. In fact, I bet you can tell FEMA and the authorities exactly where the dead and missing are located.
 
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The helicopter guy getting threatened with arrest is the first and only report of this kind of thing I've seen so far that has been credible. There's no justification.

Every other Facebook/Nextdoor/X scaremongering rumor I've come across such as TEMA/FEMA confiscating donations is 100% bullshit.

So @MSG Addict is the authority on the subject?

No, I just think you're retarded.
 
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I can not fully and honestly discuss my feelings about FEMA or the federal response to NC without being banned for fedposting and making Josh's life unnecessarily more dificult. So I wont, however FEMA and the red cross have a list of "preffered vendors" which are essentially companies that they pay for supplies and goods. These groups do not like it when an area is flooded with outside unconnected support because they only allow support and goods that come from their vendor list.

There are two main theories for this which rely almost entirely on how charitably you view these organizations. the first and more scoially acceptable reason is that its quality control and they have no way of knowing of the food or supplies from outside sources are any good or dangerous.

The more accusatory theory which I believe, is that it's about money. Fema overpays these vendors to give them goods and in return these companies give kickbacks to key decision makers. I fully believe this, unless you think they're turning down free equipment, medicine and fuel because something might be broken. The government and large corporations both view their citizens and customer base as cattle that can be milked for profit but there is no more profitable time in a cattle's life than at the slaughterhouse in which it ends.

Are most Twitter users retarded? yes. are some of them lying or sensationalizing about whats happening? oh definitely. are they ALL lying about the same thing? absolutely not, i'm pretty Sure Fema arent allowed to interrupt or fuck with churches and their charity or efforts but if that's true it's only because they would light on fire if they walked into one. This isnt even discussing a huge chunk of their funding being taken for illegals right before hurricane season.
 
You shouldn't go there and help because of looters and crime running rampant
You shouldn't donate to any organisations since that will just get confiscated
But also don't donate to individuals since grifters
Actually, trust nobody.

Seems like the people there are just fucked.

Suffah Hurricane victims. Suffah!
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I would just like more scrutiny to be applied here. Both the the government handling it as well as whatever is posting on the internet. Especially if it is just some random person claiming something outrageous without providing any evidence.
This thread is an rather interesting example on the matter. Will have to think about it.
 
Here are additional videos from the affected areas:




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Continuation of a video posted above - really interesting idea to use pins to identify helped and stranded people.
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https://x.com/gbiffle/status/1841562904123826381 and archive
 
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From people I know, the problem is they’ve seen too little federal government resources. Maybe that’s a good thing in some places.

Just get the necessary shit on pallets in the C-17s, and let human beings do the rest of the work.

Also, a special shoutout to all the Asheville restaurants (especially the mighty Rocky‘s Hot Chicken, a favorite of mine) who have been feeding people for FREE.
 
All I know is Biden is on camera talking about giving a few more billions to Ukraine (after the hurricane), then takes six days to mobilize FEMA, then when the federal government does get there it's without food, water or medicine and they're only interested in telling people to not accept donations. It's not hard to figure out why conspiracy theorists are now talking about lithium mines, quartz trade deals and weather machines.
 
Here's a quick 1 minute from the weather channel with why it was so bad in NC.

Video Transcript​

what was hurricane Helene so devastating in western North Carolina when it's over 350 miles away from the land fall well look what fell before holding even got there this predecessor rain events soak the entire southeast before the rains from Helene even arrived also look at the eastern side of the store a significant amount of very heavy rain fell on the eastern side of the track so it was that predecessor rain event plus the reins from Helene that lead to the damage that we saw but the key to understanding the system is with the Appalachian Mountains the terrain here played a significant role as you take that tropical moisture laden air mass and you move it across the Appalachians it has to be lifted and it squeezes out a lot of the moisture unfortunately with the saturated ground it has nowhere to go but down and lead to the landslides and flash flooding that we saw cross party North Carolina keep in mind that 2 feet of rain that fell would be significant for any community but add to that the elevation that exist across parts of western North Carolina and this is why the disaster unfolded
(Phonephagging so I can't archive the video right now)
 
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