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[why42]

https://tomklingenstein.com/the-fbi-entraps-another/

Iran was never involved. They found a patsty to put the blame on and arrested him to have their narrative.

Remember these are the same 3 letter agency's that said Trump was a Russian asset.

 

[BullfrogBill]

A country helps its own people. That's all of us. It's not GIBS, it's the right thing to do. Self sufficiency means shit when you lose everything. Fuck that. Government gets to fix the mess.

With all due respect, that's the same thing people were telling me when the government was closing all the businesses during covid and giving out a billion free checks to everyone at the same time. People said I was retarded for complaining about those checks but I was right when I told those people back then that we were going to be in a financial crisis a couple years down the line. Not that it's ALL the fault of the covid economy shut down and stimulus checks but it sure as hell didn't help anything at all except accelerate leading us into a depression.

 

[Pascal's Wagie]

If they can't find pizza on Trump's hard drive, they're just cooked. They lost.

They won't find pizza, but what if they found... Wendy's?

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Remember these are the same 3 letter agency's that said Trump was a Russian asset.

The entire us govt needs nuking and start over.

 

[WelperHelper99]

With all due respect, that's the same thing people were telling me when the government was closing all the businesses during covid and giving out a billion free checks to everyone at the same time. People said I was retarded for complaining about those checks but I was right when I told those people back then that we were going to be in a financial crisis a couple years down the line. Not that it's ALL the fault of the covid economy shut down and stimulus checks but it sure as hell didn't help anything at all except accelerate leading us into a depression.

A city getting wiped off the face of the earth vs a spooky virus....

Yeah I think the people should get their homes and cities rebuilt. Government's responsibility. Fix it feds, make yourselves useful for once and be a public servant.

 

[Pascal's Wagie]

People said I was retarded for complaining about those checks but I was right when I told those people back then that we were going to be in a financial crisis a couple years down the line.

Wasn't no financhu-crisis for me, I invested in Dogecoin and made enough money to buy a new computer mouse.

 

[invisibult plus+]

Just to chime in for a second, part of restoring industry (and all the financial benefits that come with it) is cutting down regulations. Back in the days of Carter, there were people awake at 3 in the morning, waiting in gas lines, because Carter's admin let OPEC string up oil. Even though we already have enough oil to be energy independent, without going into our reserves (as opposed to our pipelines, many of which are still shut down) like Biden's handlers are. Part of it is being beholden to these countries because of backroom deals, but also legislation (corporate, environmental, etc.), many of which are designed to suppress oil production, as well as sectors in other industries that can't afford to keep up with them. Small businesses, for instance. Not to mention everything made with petroleum alone.

We were actually a net exporter under Trump, because he knows that some things work best when they're left alone. You can't revitalize industries when they're not "allowed" to act in the first place. The oil industry in particular is a good example because God knows Pelosi and other racketeers want to get more returns on the Green Energy™ that they've all conveniently invested in. Automation however is another issue entirely and I can't think of a good way to reconcile that with employment at the moment.

 

[BullfrogBill]

A city getting wiped off the face of the earth vs a spooky virus....

Yeah I think the people should get their homes and cities rebuilt. Government's responsibility. Fix it feds, make yourselves useful for once and be a public servant.

The point that went way over your head is that the government spending more money isn't always the help people think it is. Can you at least agree that if the feds must pay for the hurricane recovery that they should cut some of their other spending to make room for it?

 

[elite_club]

the illegals can't steal jobs and be lazy shits without jobs at the same time. pick 1. it's quite obvious they are taking jobs that would otherwise be filled by american workers

>all illegal immigrants are exactly the same, and there are no possible realities where some work under the table and others get handed money by the state they’ve gone to

 

[WelperHelper99]

The point that went way over your head is that the government spending more money isn't always the help people think it is. Can you at least agree that if the feds must pay for the hurricane recovery that they should cut some of their other spending to make room for it?

I don't think it matters and that your talking points are 30 years old and only would stall aid actually getting there. Fix the damage now, find out the bill later. We arent getting out of debt any time soon.

 

[McAfee]

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I support it. Ross has spent too long in jail.

 

[GunCar Gary]

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https://tomklingenstein.com/the-fbi-entraps-another/

Iran was never involved. They found a patsty to put the blame on and arrested him to have their narrative.

this tweet is extrapolating from a blog post about multiple coincidences by the leader of a conservative think tank that has a book coming out in less than a month. yawn. @ me when there's direct, irrefutable proof that the government tried to kill a presidential candidate (hint: that isn't going to happen because that would cause the government to implode)

 

[BullfrogBill]

We arent getting out of debt any time soon.

Not with that attitude. Rapidly cutting our national debt actually HAS happened before even if it's been a long time since it happened. I really hate the doomer mindset that nothing can ever get better and that you should be happy about going up in flames.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

the illegals can't steal jobs and be lazy shits without jobs at the same time. pick 1. it's quite obvious they are taking jobs that would otherwise be filled by american workers

There are tens of millions of them here that is more than enough to have both.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Not with that attitude. Rapidly cutting our national debt actually HAS happened before even if it's been a long time since it happened. I really hate the doomer mindset that nothing can ever get better and that you should be happy about going up in flames.

Im not dooming. The debt is well over 20 trillion. There is nothing rapid about that. It is what it is. Rebuild the towns and cities now, the debt can sit for tomorrow when we have a administration in power that wants to do something about it.

 

[John.Doe]

Even though we already have enough oil to be energy independent, without going into our reserves (as opposed to our pipelines, many of which are still shut down) like Biden's handlers are. Part of it is being beholden to these countries because of backroom deals, but also legislation (corporate, environmental, etc.), many of which are designed to suppress oil production, as well as sectors in other industries that can't afford to keep up with them. Small businesses, for instance. Not to mention everything made with petroleum alone.

Part of it is the insane people who hate oil and industry in the government, Federal and otherwise. As we mentioned upthread:

So Biden is finally resuming the sale of oil drilling leases on federal land.

I expect a lot of people to cheer on this decision while forgetting he axed them (as one of his first acts as President) under the guise of environmentalism in the first place.

Why did he do them? To spite Trump, that allowed them, to intimidate the oil industry, because the right staffer with an eco-fetish told him, who fucking knows. He (or Kamala, or anyone) can also re-ax them at any point, and has already demonstrated the willingness (or poor wisdom) to do so arbitrarily. Any oil extraction process is going to take years to get up and running, and if the administration flips (again) in the middle of rollout all the money invested is wasted because the equipment, planning, etc is all site specific. How many companies are going to roll the dice betting on the Federal government's consistency when the stakes are a few billion dollars and the future of their company?

It reminds me of some quip, that many countries prefer negotiations with dictators, as they know agreements will last more than 4 years.

Man, it's no fucking wonder oil companies are hesitant to do any kind of investment. When you have the Energy Secretary saying that it's a good thing gas is so expensive so that people are more likely to switch to electrics (never mind that fossil fuels are used for most power plants because we're too scared of nuclear), financial institutions being pressured by woke capital to not fund any new ventures, and the government canceling new leases left and right, is that the kind of environment you'd want to sink your resources into? Add onto that the long amount of time to get a new rig up and running (someone mentioned it upthread somewhere, but I seem to recall it being on the order of months), as well as the very real possibility of not having the parts you need thanks to supply chain disruptions, and it's looking like this shit isn't going to be abated for a long time yet.

That was me bud, and try years, not months. Plus the really expensive parts of getting a lease ready to extract are site-specific, non-refundable, and time-limited. If the administration scuttles the lease mid-rigging, the majority of the money is gone and it is never coming back, completely non-recoverable. If you get that lease back some years later you are starting over from square one.

Same reason why we don't get more industries in this country, most states are full of insane petty bureaucrats that will happily pass laws or regulations in the middle of your construction that will either make your factory impossible to finish or alternatively unprofitable to run. There is no way to assure that the political situation won't ratchet your business into oblivion in the time it takes to actually build it, hence why manufacturing is dead in most states.

 

[The Saltening]

>all illegal immigrants are exactly the same, and there are no possible realities where some work under the table and others get handed money by the state they’ve gone to

even iff illegals arent "stealing jobs" they are still devaluing work and should face the wall. rapist fucking nigger spics.

 

[Your Girlfriend's Dad]

bro. just name yourself mohammed, get a tan, then walk over the border and rape a child. Europe will PAY YOU to stay.

If you think that Europe will remain a suicidally diversity-obsessed quagmire without the USA as their defense guarantor, you're fucking delusional.

 

[BullfrogBill]

Im not dooming. The debt is well over 20 trillion. There is nothing rapid about that. It is what it is. Rebuild the towns and cities now, the debt can sit for tomorrow when we have a administration in power that wants to do something about it.

So you don't think the government should cut any spending at all to make room for hurricane relief, The only band-aid possible is to spend more money on top of spending more money (it's okay, the taxpayers will pay for that ), The national debt will NEVER be fixed, and this mentality isn't dooming. Got it.

 

[Rimanah]

the illegals can't steal jobs and be lazy shits without jobs at the same time. pick 1.

The notion they can’t both take jobs and welfare is a complete false dichotomy because:
1) You do realize that there’s more than 1 illegal immigrant right? Even if there were two, one could be a lazy POS who mooches welfare, while the other can be stealing low income jobs.

2) it’s also possible to work/steal a low income job and receive welfare and other gibs. It’s not like gibs are just for people with absolutely no employment or income stream.