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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Right next to a prison, where he belongs.

Yeah, I'm just shocked I randomly walked here because I saw "cool building" with no idea it was the cradle of *HIM*.
No where near a prison.

Fettes College is in fact 5 minute walk from Lothian and Borders Police HQ.
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Actually, we're paying them to take the island from us. This is clearly to our benefit somehow. View attachment 6484433
I do wonder what the actual deal is. I know Lammy has a (Celsius) room temperature IQ, but there's no way that both the civil service and the Yanks would have okayed this with absolutely nothing in return. Whatever the intelligence goss they're giving us is, it'd better be good
 
I do wonder what the actual deal is. I know Lammy has a (Celsius) room temperature IQ, but there's no way that both the civil service and the Yanks would have okayed this with absolutely nothing in return. Whatever the intelligence goss they're giving us is, it'd better be good
99 years, like HK, and? It's has deep water facilities for Subs. So giving deep water facilities to Chinese.

My military friends are saying this is borderline treasonous.
 
I do wonder what the actual deal is. I know Lammy has a (Celsius) room temperature IQ, but there's no way that both the civil service and the Yanks would have okayed this with absolutely nothing in return. Whatever the intelligence goss they're giving us is, it'd better be good
The US State Department has a hate boner for us and thinks we’re the evil Empire from Star Wars and likely backed it out of pure spite.

The Democrats hate us unless they get themselves into a war and need real professional soldiers.

I can’t wait until the Republicans stop being weird and get a twenty year run of the White House.
 
Ah, here we go. It's Canada time.


Proposals to give terminally ill people in England and Wales the right to choose to end their life are to be introduced in Parliament this month.
Labour MP Kim Leadbeater is putting forward the bill and said "now is the time" to hold a fresh debate on assisted dying, after MPs rejected a bill on the issue in 2015.
Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has previously promised to give Labour MPs a chance to vote with their conscience on the issue and has supported a change in the law himself.
However, Baroness Tanni Grey-Thompson, a former paralympian who is a crossbencher in the House of Lords, said she was against the proposed change.
Leadbeater said her proposals would give eligible adults nearing the end of their lives the right to choose to shorten their deaths if they wish.
The details have not been finalised but the bill is likely to be similar to a proposal in the House of Lords, which would allow terminally ill adults with six months or fewer to live to get medical help to end their own lives.
The bill is expected to be formally introduced on 16 October, with a debate and initial vote likely to take place later this year. It would have to be approved by MPs and peers before it becomes law.
Scotland, Jersey and the Isle of Man are also considering changes to the law.
The subject has gained attention in recent months, after broadcaster Dame Esther Rantzen revealed she had lung cancer and had joined Dignitas, the assisted dying clinic in Switzerland.
On Friday the prime minister said that before the general election he had promised Dame Esther a debate and a free vote on assisted dying.
He said he would stick to this commitment and confirmed the government would remain neutral.
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Dame Esther, who has been calling for a change in the law, said she was surprised she may live to see a debate in Parliament about the issue.
She said the law as it stands puts her family "at risk of being accused of killing me" if they helped her end her life in Switzerland.
"All I’m asking for is that we be given the dignity of choice," Dame Esther told the BBC.
"If I decide that my own life is not worth living, please may I ask for help to die. It’s a choice."
But Dr Lucy Thomas, a palliative care and public health doctor, said assisted dying was a last resort that courts, rather than doctors, were better placed to judge.
She added that choosing to end your life was not a "straightforward consumer decision".
Baroness Grey-Thompson told the BBC she was opposed over concerns "about the impact on vulnerable people, on disabled people, coercive control, and the ability of doctors to make a six-month diagnosis".
Assisted suicide - intentionally helping another person to end their life - is currently banned in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, with a maximum prison sentence of 14 years.
Assisted dying is generally used to describe a situation where someone who is terminally ill seeks medical help to obtain lethal drugs which they administer themselves.
As a backbench MP, Leadbeater would not normally be allotted time for a full debate and vote in Parliament on one of her proposed bills.
However, earlier this year she came first in the private members' ballot, meaning she will be given some of the limited time available for backbench MPs' bills.
Speaking to the BBC, the Spen Valley MP said topping the ballot had prompted her to look into the subject of assisted dying "in a lot more detail" and that she believed there was a "real appetite" for MPs to have a debate.
"The current situation isn’t particularly safe and there isn’t actually the choice that I believe people deserve and should have," she said.
Dr Gordon Macdonald, chief executive of Care Not Killing, a group which opposes changing the law, said news of the forthcoming bill was "clearly disappointing".
He said: "I would strongly urge the government to focus on fixing our broken palliative care system that sees up to one in four Brits who would benefit from this type of care being unable to access it, rather than discussing again this dangerous and ideological policy."

Anil Douglas welcomed the debate. His father, who suffered from secondary progressive multiple sclerosis, took his own life the day before his 60th birthday.
He said his father had lost "all bodily dignity" and was in "agonising neurological pain".
"The current law as it stands is dangerous, and it leads people to take decisions that are lonely, isolating, and incredibly risky, just like my father," he said.
"Really what the law should do is protect people."
It is not clear which way the House of Commons will vote when the bill is debated.
The make-up of the Commons has changed dramatically since 2015, when MPs last voted on assisted dying.
That bill - which would have allowed some terminally ill adults to end their lives with medical supervision - was rejected, with 118 MPs voting in favour and 300 voting against the plans.
In that vote, Conservative MPs overwhelmingly rejected the bill - 270 were against while just 27 were in favour.
By contrast Labour MPs were more evenly split - 92 opposed and 73 were in favour. One of those Labour MPs to vote in favour was Sir Keir, now prime minister, but then just a backbencher.
The current deputy prime minister and foreign secretary, Angela Rayner and David Lammy, voted against.
On Friday, Energy Secretary Ed Miliband told BBC Breakfast he would vote in favour of the assisted dying bill and described the current law as "cruel".
Health Secretary Wes Streeting said he was "conflicted", external on assisted dying earlier this year. The BBC has been told he thinks it is right to have a debate now but he is said to still have concerns.
The government has confirmed it will remain neutral on the bill. In a letter to ministers, external, head of the civil service Simon Case said they would be able to vote "however they wish".
"Though ministers need not resile from previously stated views when directly asked about them, they should exercise discretion and should not take part in the public debate," he said.
"What's the worst thing Labour can do if they get in?"
 
I really don't want to rage post but I am so angry but sick of being angry all at the same time.

Good job Starmer and Cleverly you fucking half breed mongoloid, you pushed back our relationship with the US for decades and it was already shitty but the idea of just giving away a joint party territory that is UNINHABITED when a war is about to pop off is just utterly retarded.
 
"What's the worst thing Labour can do if they get in?"

From another article on the BBC, written by a more cynical journalist:
Labour's Kim Leadbeater, the MP for Spen Valley, has topped the list so could be asked by the government to pilot potentially contentious legislation through the Commons.

This is because pushing controversial legislation through under a backbench MP rather than a government minister allows the Labour leadership to maintain political distance from it.

One of the most infuriating things about modern politics is that we don't learn. We copy the most retarded ideas from the past, or the most retarded ideas from other countries, then act all Shocked Pikachu when the same outcomes happen again.
They've been too badly burned on tranny shit to do anything there, I think, but I expect them to try legalizing cannabis before their time is up.
Labour, pls stop making my country a worse place :-(
 
From another article on the BBC, written by a more cynical journalist:
Yeah, soon as I saw who was suggested it I immediately clocked that this is leadership trying to pretend they are uninvolved.
Which also suggests Labour have been doing the votes maths behind closed doors. If it's tight then people like Angela will change their mind, if it's definitely going to be defeated she will "stand by her convictions" and if it's a guaranteed win some will be allowed to the same. Likely her as an heir apparent but they don't want to get the numbers wrong.
 
Dont vote for socialists,
They always lie, and they are always treasonous.
It's more that people didn't vote for the opposition since they were doing a pretty bad job. It was under the Conservatives after all that we got the boat crisis, immigration crisis, cost of living crisis, etc.

I admit that I had relatively high hopes for Starmer even though I didn't like Labour. I thought he'd understand he only got in because people didn't like the opposition instead of they liked him (he got less overall votes than Labour got with Jeremy Corbyn in 2019) and would be tame in his policies. It seems he instead took the approach of "we've seized power now, push as much change as we can while we have the chance, also make sure to stomp down extra hard on the necks of Native Brits while we do it."

Rishi Sunak is at fault for this as well. He called the election out of nowhere and at the worst possible time for the Conservatives. Labour's time probably would have passed if he'd not called it early.
 
It's more that people didn't vote for the opposition since they were doing a pretty bad job. It was under the Conservatives after all that we got the boat crisis, immigration crisis, cost of living crisis, etc.

I admit that I had relatively high hopes for Starmer even though I didn't like Labour. I thought he'd understand he only got in because people didn't like the opposition instead of they liked him (he got less overall votes than Labour got with Jeremy Corbyn in 2019) and would be tame in his policies. It seems he instead took the approach of "we've seized power now, push as much change as we can while we have the chance, also make sure to stomp down extra hard on the necks of Native Brits while we do it."

Rishi Sunak is at fault for this as well. He called the election out of nowhere and at the worst possible time for the Conservatives. Labour's time probably would have passed if he'd not called it early.
Dont vote for socialists,
They always lie, and they are always treasonous.
 
Rishi Sunak is at fault for this as well. He called the election out of nowhere and at the worst possible time for the Conservatives. Labour's time probably would have passed if he'd not called it early.
Things were only getting worse for the Tories, though I agree that it seems Rishi jumped the gun. It's possible he wanted them to get the winter fuel allowance hot potato lobbed into their laps without warning I suppose but I think it's as likely he wanted to be out of his PM role with some of summer left to go and chance to holiday in America before the elections there.
 
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