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Sorry but no. If they'd been working the land for generations and knew how to survive they wouldn't require the modern conveniences they're on social media demanding. They have to leave. That was the lesson from Katrina. This is worse.

When does the snow start? A month? Then what?
Very, very few Americans are prepared to survive without "modern conveniences" which at this point if you include electricity and running water are necessities to survive in the modern world. The rugged frontiersman type of person who can survive off of little to nothing has been gone for a long time. If you forcibly move people away what happens to the land they own as well as their possessions? Where do you send them? What happens if the place they lived becomes inhabitable again? Should this be the precedent for every natural disaster?

Helping people recover and rebuild seems like a cheaper alternative.
 
You aren't wrong but there are two points working against your suggestion: a) those are a different breed of people who have lived that land for generations. You can't just take them away from it. And b) NC law allows property owners and their families to remain at their property regardless of a mandatory evacuation order. The State does not have the power to compel them to leave.
Sorry but no. If they'd been working the land for generations and knew how to survive they wouldn't require the modern conveniences they're on social media demanding. They have to leave. That was the lesson from Katrina. This is worse.

When does the snow start? A month? Then what?
The point is moot anyway, because a large portion of the population has voluntarily relocated anyway. Last numbers I saw was about 75% of the residents of Montreat and Black Mountain have relocated to temporary shelters or family members outside of the affected area. These people aren't retarded, they know staying there isn't a winning proposition.
FEMA is angry at all the slander you guyz stop it or they'll never be rescued! Look what the official FEMA twitter account retweeted!

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HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THE NOSE ON THAT ONE

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Head of the PR team btw

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Edit: They're in damage control now and seem to be trying to fix the optics rather than the hurricane
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To be fair, making up complete bullshit stories of illegal immigrant jackboot government kill teams stealing supplies and shooting huwhite champions of freedom just trying to help is irresponsible and dangerous.

Think of all of the ACTUAL bullshit that will now never be taken seriously because it is now grouped in with completely schizophrenic bullshit lies. FEMA funds being used for illegals? Volunteer helicopter pilots being threatened with arrest? Dead in the water, because it's now said in the same breath as "the government is sending FEMA hit teams to steal everyone's guns and are only giving out Soylent laced with tranny hormones."
 
Very, very few Americans are prepared to survive without "modern conveniences" which at this point if you include electricity and running water are necessities to survive in the modern world. The rugged frontiersman type of person who can survive off of little to nothing has been gone for a long time. If you forcibly move people away what happens to the land they own as well as their possessions? Where do you send them? What happens if the place they lived becomes inhabitable again? Should this be the precedent for every natural disaster?

Helping people recover and rebuild seems like a cheaper alternative.
How would they lose ownership of their property if they were evacuated for a couple years?

You send them to Federal Disaster Centers like the Astrodome was used for Katrina. Just a few weeks before this storm the NFL partnered with FEMA to use all their domed stadiums in case something like this happened. Most people don't know but the fed gov't helped fund the Astrodome's construction in the first place for that purpose (nuke strikes specifically).


They won't like it any more than the hundred thousand New Orleanians who were sent to Houston did. Until they got there. A large percentage chose not to come back even when N.O. was reopened.

Martial law will be declared and everyone told to leave, I suspect those plans are being made right now. If everyone stranded in the mountains right now insisted on staying the majority will be dead in six months, that's just reality. People who don't have supplies are dying right now and that's not going to improve. The roads are gone and won't be back any time soon.

Should this be the precedent for every natural disaster?
This is an unprecedented natural disaster and yes this was always the plan for those. This isn't a video game.
 
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To be fair, making up complete bullshit stories of illegal immigrant jackboot government kill teams stealing supplies and shooting huwhite champions of freedom just trying to help is irresponsible and dangerous.

Think of all of the ACTUAL bullshit that will now never be taken seriously because it is now grouped in with completely schizophrenic bullshit lies. FEMA funds being used for illegals? Volunteer helicopter pilots being threatened with arrest? Dead in the water, because it's now said in the same breath as "the government is sending FEMA hit teams to steal everyone's guns and are only giving out Soylent laced with tranny hormones."
It happens after every catastrophe like this. All that can be done is try to cut through the noise and anchor any discussion around the facts.
 
Anyone old enough to remember Katrina knows FEMA isn't malicious. Just retarded.
This is the real tragedy. FEMA is one of those government organizations that doesn't have to do shit for 99% of it's existence, so when something awful happens they have no idea how to deal with it.

Ray Nagin was an idiot, but I remember him on the radio talking about the acres of FEMA trailers that were sitting out there weeks after Katrina and saying shit about going out there and just taking them since the feds weren't doing anything to help. Those were some interesting times.
 
HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THE NOSE ON THAT ONE

Head of the PR team btw
Sars DO NOT REDEEM! That money is for illegal

Anyone old enough to remember Katrina knows FEMA isn't malicious. Just retarded. Alot of the hysteria is starting to smack of Alex Jones tier "FEMA Covid concentration camps". Not really helpful.
There's an adage I've seen thrown around a lot more as of late. That is an updated version of Hanlon's Razor.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
The addendum to it is:
"Unless the government is involved then assume both."

The Government is both evil and stupid.
There's a reason they're happily spending that money on illegals and foreign nations instead of spending it on their own people for multiple decades.
 
Ray Nagin was an idiot, but I remember him on the radio talking about the acres of FEMA trailers that were sitting out there weeks after Katrina and saying shit about going out there and just taking them since the feds weren't doing anything to help. Those were some interesting times.
Wonder if they'll have formaldehyde in the trailers this time?
 
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Maybe of interest, 2015
John Stossel: You government lovers are always talking about fixing government; it never gets fixed.
Poli-sci Tenured Academic: We can't throw up our hands and say FEMA is incompetent; we need to rebuild a better FEMA.


Nearly a decade later, how has that gone?
Have improved though! On their messaging!

We've yet to get an equivalent to "Heckuva job Brownie" or "we will rebuild New Orleans as a better city. A chocolate city!".
 
Think of all of the ACTUAL bullshit that will now never be taken seriously because it is now grouped in with completely schizophrenic bullshit lies. FEMA funds being used for illegals? Volunteer helicopter pilots being threatened with arrest? Dead in the water, because it's now said in the same breath as "the government is sending FEMA hit teams to steal everyone's guns and are only giving out Soylent laced with tranny hormones."

FEMA and ATF gonna have a slap fight over dibs on dogs!

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This is an unprecedented natural disaster
This is on the same order as the floods of 1916 and 1940. It is not unprecedented.
Sorry but no. If they'd been working the land for generations and knew how to survive they wouldn't require the modern conveniences they're on social media demanding.

When does the snow start? A month? Then what?
We don't know what they are demanding because we still don't have reliable communication with all the affected areas. The snow isn't going to be a problem until late December at the earliest.

You are awfully presumptuous that you know better than those people what they want or what they need.
 
Ray Nagin was an idiot, but I remember him on the radio talking about the acres of FEMA trailers that were sitting out there weeks after Katrina and saying shit about going out there and just taking them since the feds weren't doing anything to help. Those were some interesting times.
That's what makes this so much worse than Katrina. It took about a month to drain the floodwater from the city but when it was dry at least the roads were still there. Supplies and those trailers could be transported and the land was flat. Those trailers had sewage and utilities to connect to once transported in. None of that exists now with this and it won't exist for probably 18+ months. The people must be evacuated or they will die, simple as.
 
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I'm sorry, but aside from the big blue City of Ashville and the Interstate highways will get all kinds of aid but it seems clear that, aside from all the relief money being given away to shitskins, FEMA's going with the Lahaina playbook and is only gonna let their good ol xirs handle things in an approved way and that lets the jewish media portray them briefly as big heros before they make the story disappear. This isn't about relief, it's about rewarding the loyal, brat city of Ashville while cleansing the mountains of the disease of Whiteness. Give me all the statues and trashcans you're fucking blind if you don't get it after East Palestine and Lahaina. If these happened to some nigger infested ghetto, we'd still be hearing about them, there'd be fucking memorials erected, and we'd be given lectures about the major role Whiteness played
 
Even if we just consider the amount required to maintain the wind speeds of the storm, that's still more than the entire US installed power capacity.
You aren't constructing them out of nothing, you use them to manipulate the jet stream into reacting more violently than normal or in a different place. It only takes a small air bubbler in a pond to generate currents far larger.
 
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