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Very, very few Americans are prepared to survive without "modern conveniences" which at this point if you include electricity and running water are necessities to survive in the modern world. The rugged frontiersman type of person who can survive off of little to nothing has been gone for a long time. If you forcibly move people away what happens to the land they own as well as their possessions? Where do you send them? What happens if the place they lived becomes inhabitable again? Should this be the precedent for every natural disaster?Sorry but no. If they'd been working the land for generations and knew how to survive they wouldn't require the modern conveniences they're on social media demanding. They have to leave. That was the lesson from Katrina. This is worse.
When does the snow start? A month? Then what?
You aren't wrong but there are two points working against your suggestion: a) those are a different breed of people who have lived that land for generations. You can't just take them away from it. And b) NC law allows property owners and their families to remain at their property regardless of a mandatory evacuation order. The State does not have the power to compel them to leave.
The point is moot anyway, because a large portion of the population has voluntarily relocated anyway. Last numbers I saw was about 75% of the residents of Montreat and Black Mountain have relocated to temporary shelters or family members outside of the affected area. These people aren't retarded, they know staying there isn't a winning proposition.Sorry but no. If they'd been working the land for generations and knew how to survive they wouldn't require the modern conveniences they're on social media demanding. They have to leave. That was the lesson from Katrina. This is worse.
When does the snow start? A month? Then what?
To be fair, making up complete bullshit stories of illegal immigrant jackboot government kill teams stealing supplies and shooting huwhite champions of freedom just trying to help is irresponsible and dangerous.FEMA is angry at all the slander you guyz stop it or they'll never be rescued! Look what the official FEMA twitter account retweeted!
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HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THE NOSE ON THAT ONE
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Head of the PR team btw
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Edit: They're in damage control now and seem to be trying to fix the optics rather than the hurricane
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I'd almost forgot about Pete Buttfucker and his faggotry in regards to his current position.
here is the department of transportation telling people not to fly drones there and every single response is accusing them of a coverup.
How would they lose ownership of their property if they were evacuated for a couple years?Very, very few Americans are prepared to survive without "modern conveniences" which at this point if you include electricity and running water are necessities to survive in the modern world. The rugged frontiersman type of person who can survive off of little to nothing has been gone for a long time. If you forcibly move people away what happens to the land they own as well as their possessions? Where do you send them? What happens if the place they lived becomes inhabitable again? Should this be the precedent for every natural disaster?
Helping people recover and rebuild seems like a cheaper alternative.
This is an unprecedented natural disaster and yes this was always the plan for those. This isn't a video game.Should this be the precedent for every natural disaster?
It happens after every catastrophe like this. All that can be done is try to cut through the noise and anchor any discussion around the facts.To be fair, making up complete bullshit stories of illegal immigrant jackboot government kill teams stealing supplies and shooting huwhite champions of freedom just trying to help is irresponsible and dangerous.
Think of all of the ACTUAL bullshit that will now never be taken seriously because it is now grouped in with completely schizophrenic bullshit lies. FEMA funds being used for illegals? Volunteer helicopter pilots being threatened with arrest? Dead in the water, because it's now said in the same breath as "the government is sending FEMA hit teams to steal everyone's guns and are only giving out Soylent laced with tranny hormones."
This is the real tragedy. FEMA is one of those government organizations that doesn't have to do shit for 99% of it's existence, so when something awful happens they have no idea how to deal with it.Anyone old enough to remember Katrina knows FEMA isn't malicious. Just retarded.
Sars DO NOT REDEEM! That money is for illegalHOLY SHIT LOOK AT THE NOSE ON THAT ONE
Head of the PR team btw
There's an adage I've seen thrown around a lot more as of late. That is an updated version of Hanlon's Razor.Anyone old enough to remember Katrina knows FEMA isn't malicious. Just retarded. Alot of the hysteria is starting to smack of Alex Jones tier "FEMA Covid concentration camps". Not really helpful.
Wonder if they'll have formaldehyde in the trailers this time?Ray Nagin was an idiot, but I remember him on the radio talking about the acres of FEMA trailers that were sitting out there weeks after Katrina and saying shit about going out there and just taking them since the feds weren't doing anything to help. Those were some interesting times.
Have improved though! On their messaging!Maybe of interest, 2015
John Stossel: You government lovers are always talking about fixing government; it never gets fixed.
Poli-sci Tenured Academic: We can't throw up our hands and say FEMA is incompetent; we need to rebuild a better FEMA.
Nearly a decade later, how has that gone?
Think of all of the ACTUAL bullshit that will now never be taken seriously because it is now grouped in with completely schizophrenic bullshit lies. FEMA funds being used for illegals? Volunteer helicopter pilots being threatened with arrest? Dead in the water, because it's now said in the same breath as "the government is sending FEMA hit teams to steal everyone's guns and are only giving out Soylent laced with tranny hormones."
Incorrect read the primary source account hereHe brought his son with him (for a joyride) and was not safely landing in the area he was going.
This is on the same order as the floods of 1916 and 1940. It is not unprecedented.This is an unprecedented natural disaster
We don't know what they are demanding because we still don't have reliable communication with all the affected areas. The snow isn't going to be a problem until late December at the earliest.Sorry but no. If they'd been working the land for generations and knew how to survive they wouldn't require the modern conveniences they're on social media demanding.
When does the snow start? A month? Then what?
It's worse than those. Extreme flooding in the region is far from unprecedented, but the amount of flooding in this region is unprecedented.This is on the same order as the floods of 1916 and 1940.
That's what makes this so much worse than Katrina. It took about a month to drain the floodwater from the city but when it was dry at least the roads were still there. Supplies and those trailers could be transported and the land was flat. Those trailers had sewage and utilities to connect to once transported in. None of that exists now with this and it won't exist for probably 18+ months. The people must be evacuated or they will die, simple as.Ray Nagin was an idiot, but I remember him on the radio talking about the acres of FEMA trailers that were sitting out there weeks after Katrina and saying shit about going out there and just taking them since the feds weren't doing anything to help. Those were some interesting times.
No. There are still flooding records (maximum crests) that were not broken by Helene.It's worse than those.
You aren't constructing them out of nothing, you use them to manipulate the jet stream into reacting more violently than normal or in a different place. It only takes a small air bubbler in a pond to generate currents far larger.Even if we just consider the amount required to maintain the wind speeds of the storm, that's still more than the entire US installed power capacity.