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so how the fuck does this work then? is it just impossible to get it to vanish then?
Bronze Age Pervert (BAP) / Costin Vlad Alamariu & Associates / BAPists / BAPsphere / Frogtwitter / Greek Statue Twitter / "The Talmudic Network" - An "Ironic" Gay Romanian Jew Who LARPs as Bronze Age Warrior and Posts Topless Male Bodybuilders. Feuding Against Nick Fuentes Over Which One is Gayer. Defends Pederasty. Allegedly Funded by Peter Thiel & Followed by JD Vance. + His Orbiters
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B(R)AP's shilling for Israel as "le Ashkenazi white ethnostate in the middle east" was funny, someone should finish the OP rewrite
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He's not posting men lifting heavy objects. He's posting oiled-up men posing coquettishly in their swim trunks.
He looks like AIDS Cillian Murphy.
They crave a mustache ride.
I think it's quite funny.
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Wouldn't want the BAPster tugging his (proudly uncircumcised) worm to them.
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could someone take over the OP? we really need someone to take over, i know this can be a good thread
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Because Nietzsche is not only the most easily accessible, non-problematic (unlike Evola) and roughly-correspondent to their views guy, he;s like literally these guys.
From Scott Alexander:
This man spent his life in continual physical decay, rotting from the inside out. First his bowels, then his brain. Phlegm filled his lungs. He found sleep almost impossible. In the end he was sent away to an asylum; the story goes that he witnessed a horse being whipped in the street, and he threw his arms around the animal’s neck, weeping.
In his Introduction to Antiphilosophy Boris Groys writes that ‘when Nietzsche praises victorious life, preaches amor fati and identifies himself with the forces of nature that are bound to destroy him, he simply seeks to divert himself and others from the fact that he himself is sick, poor, weak and unhappy.’ Nietzsche’s sickness becomes a kind of gotcha, the final defence against his thought. Never mind the freezing storm uprooting everything in its path—it’s just a symptom. But I don’t think Zarathustra is simply a diversion or a distraction or a flimsy mask worn by the shambling creature of Turin. There have been a lot of feeble, lovelorn men pottering about the world in their mild overcoats. Most of them did not write like he did. You can’t ignore the weakness of the man or the strength of his writing. You have to stay with the contradiction. You have to grab them both.
The obvious answer is one philosophers have a strangely hard time comprehending, but almost every fourteen-year-old who’s picked up a book of Nietzsche’s has instantly recognised. When Nietzsche talks about master morality, he is not talking to the masters; he’s talking to the weak and the botched and to pimply Jimmy: to the slaves.
Or, quite simply, these guys want to feel strong, and they will adopt any mental narrative closest to justifying their existence. (Whether, of course, Nietzsche will agree with these people, is another matter)
Also somewhat irrelevant information, but Scott Alexander is considered the best essayist and one of the two pillars of the "Rationalists"/ TPOT community, for more info, see the Farm's thread on AellaGirl and Eliezer Schlomo Yud
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Costin's gayness becomes a kind of gotcha, the final defence against his irrational fear of women. Nevermind the problematic boners uprooting everything in their path - they're just a symptom.
It's like he's catfishing himself when he posts young shirtless guys. It's such a unique form of insanity. There's potential here.
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I love that the threads getting more traction. Because these loons need a thread.
that makes sense, its why his fanbois have to go super hard at defending him anytime he's doxxed as a fatass. plus from what he's said about going to school, especially as an immigrant in 80s/90s Boston he had it very rough. A fat academic nerd who pretends to be a pussy slaying chad. The only reason he's been able to get away with it unlike Masterson or Yarvin is he has just enough self awareness to not reveal how bullshit his entire persona is. Even in the photos we do have of Costin he is wearing way more clothes than any nudist i've ever encountered. He's bundled up even on a random July night when everyone else is wearing shorts and barely a shirt.
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BAP is just a gay, neurotic kike lol..
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You should still take to heart the working out part, become strong and fit, and never criticize the strength aspect of what he promotes.
Reject the Jewish shit.
Embrace mens sana in corpore sano.
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The core of my question isn’t about Nietzsche but why Jews find his thought appealing. Costin and the people in his orbit clearly have read Nietzsche, they absolutely take his ideas seriously, or at least they really put in a good performance, especially for the more obscure of his ideas and works.
Someone gave me an answer earlier; that Nietzsche appeals to the wandering artist and social iconoclast. I expect it’s that, and also Nietzsche’s ideas are absolutely not about the preservation of or cherishing of a national community.
This is probably the main difference the BAP sphere has with most of the rest of the DR-it’s about the ennoblement and actualization of the ambitious man. Who either rejects or breaks off from his stifling tribe and rejects any sort of filial loyalty or obligation. Most of the rest of the DR at least in theory argues for solidarity and “blood over money and words” but BAP doesn’t-he says if you are a young man, pursue your own ambitions and give the middle finger to anyone-parents, teachers, priests, etc… that tell you, you have to spend your life in service to them for some greater good.
Fuck all the sloots you can, colonize Africa, be a gangster, never settle for anything less than what a Hellenic koryos would have accepted. Of course that may be performative but the message is unchanged.
I said earlier I think that’s why the “Jewish Thiel funded…” accusations will never stick. Because BAP speaks to deeper and more primal longings men have than just “save the Huyte race and breed”.
It’s not something Keith Woods, Joel Davis, much less TRS or their circles have ever offered or encouraged.
If there is something “subversive” about BAP is that he rejects solidarity in favor of shameless egoism. If you wanted to claim Jewish subversion-the angle here is really easy. He’s telling young White men to let their families and communities rot and burn.
Which is amusing that Fuentes and Striker and co. Have never actually pointed this out.
Because that would require they engage with Nietzsche’s work(at least superficially). One could make a fair argument Nietzsche himself is a bad or subversive influence insofar as he encourages the best of the White race to view the rest of their kinsmen as at worst cattle to be discarded and at best a temporary stop gap before le ubermenschen.
But I’ve never seen any neo Nazi or WN make this argument. Even though it would be easy to make.
Someone gave me an answer earlier; that Nietzsche appeals to the wandering artist and social iconoclast. I expect it’s that, and also Nietzsche’s ideas are absolutely not about the preservation of or cherishing of a national community.
This is probably the main difference the BAP sphere has with most of the rest of the DR-it’s about the ennoblement and actualization of the ambitious man. Who either rejects or breaks off from his stifling tribe and rejects any sort of filial loyalty or obligation. Most of the rest of the DR at least in theory argues for solidarity and “blood over money and words” but BAP doesn’t-he says if you are a young man, pursue your own ambitions and give the middle finger to anyone-parents, teachers, priests, etc… that tell you, you have to spend your life in service to them for some greater good.
Fuck all the sloots you can, colonize Africa, be a gangster, never settle for anything less than what a Hellenic koryos would have accepted. Of course that may be performative but the message is unchanged.
I said earlier I think that’s why the “Jewish Thiel funded…” accusations will never stick. Because BAP speaks to deeper and more primal longings men have than just “save the Huyte race and breed”.
It’s not something Keith Woods, Joel Davis, much less TRS or their circles have ever offered or encouraged.
If there is something “subversive” about BAP is that he rejects solidarity in favor of shameless egoism. If you wanted to claim Jewish subversion-the angle here is really easy. He’s telling young White men to let their families and communities rot and burn.
Which is amusing that Fuentes and Striker and co. Have never actually pointed this out.
Because that would require they engage with Nietzsche’s work(at least superficially). One could make a fair argument Nietzsche himself is a bad or subversive influence insofar as he encourages the best of the White race to view the rest of their kinsmen as at worst cattle to be discarded and at best a temporary stop gap before le ubermenschen.
But I’ve never seen any neo Nazi or WN make this argument. Even though it would be easy to make.
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One can get the advice anywhere else without encountering a gay jew in a dark alley on Shitter.
Seeking health existed before BAP existed. Attributing that advice to him is the problem.
Acting like BAP has good advice is like thanking someone for saving you from death after he almost but not quite pushes you in front of a train and then yells, "watch out."
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All I want is for people to focus their criticisms where it matters, i.e. the Zionism part.
People on this website have incredibly idiotic tendencies, like "lolcow bad, everything cow does necessarily bad".
This lack of nuance doesn't work with me. Sports and fitness (of both body and mind) are very important to me, and we should not allow fats to criticize the fit.
So mostly, it's about preventing a scenario where some unfit, gross anime avi or groyper manipulates this thread to dunk on BAP as a "homosexual" and to demonize the Greek ideal athletic male body. These spergs should fuck off to their local McDonalds and eat more goyslop.
There is plenty to talk about Mr. Alamariu that's worthy of a lol, i.e. his idiotic insistence on not abandoning in shame whatever Jewish identity he still maintains. It's not like anyone can put him in an oven or camp
Abandon Jewishness, Costin.
Boring shit my intellectual nibba, boring shit.
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I like niggertache or whateber. Good dude. But like Mishima, his fans are faggots.
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Done and done.
But he will always be a fag, which leads us to:
...a Venn diagram with zero overlap.
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Nietzsche fans outside of nazi anime twitter tend to be a lot more politically eclectic than you'd think. Nietzsche has been tamed by the left, that finds him useful for over sixty years. His use of the genealogical method and his influence on existentialist and postmodern thought is vast. So leftists have used him or rather his methods, such as they are, to argue conservative and reactionary responses to their programs are irrational or petty, to criticize bourgeoise society and capitalist relations, and so on. Missing I think what Nietzsche's true beliefs actually were, on which I think BAP is correct.
I do believe BAP and his orbiters when they say they have read him in total-rather than curated and heavily sanitized passages. Nietzsche unlike Evola, Spengler, etc... doesn't have the same stigma-his work is just that deeply appreciated, not just some other "right wing idealogue no academic respects and you get side eyes if you admit you read or like"
(I read somewhere they wanted to basically banish Nietzsche after WW2, as another German reactionary/proto fascist, but his influence on the arts and philosophy were already significant enough this wasn't possible-even though the people in charge of denazification would have probably preferred it).
Regardless, I think the best response to Nietzsche outside of a religious invocation, is "Nietzsche is subversive, because he advocates for the dissolution of nation and community-the bonds and obligations that tie a man to people that are his inferiors but also his kin"
It would be genuinely easy for WNs and Neo Nazis that aren't primarily Nietzsche fans to make that argument-"Nietzsche is basically offering egoistic libertarianism for the few, and this simply encourages alienation and deracination, as opposed to healthy group loyalties..."
But its bizarre to me, that no one has ever sincerely or not made that argument. Maybe because they don't care enough to try.
I could make an anti Nietzsche argument on right wing/identitarian grounds, but no one ever does.
If you really want to refute the BAP sphere, you need to present a convincing case that Nietzsche is a dead end.
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