The Super Best Friends Super Best Griefing Thread - Matt's a cuck, Liam is a bitch, Pat's a loony and Woolie's Way is now trademarked

[Aaron Costello]

Oh for fucks sake. They decided to speak up on THAT, but they completely ignored subjects actually important to video games, like The Crew shutting down and the SKG campaign?

Heeey! Woolie said they're not a news podcast!!!!

 

[Shekel Puff]

This is the man who thinks the suicide ending is the "intended canon ending" of SH2 because "james get what he deserves".

Did he actually say that? I remember him saying that the "In Water" ending was the one that he got himself when he was playing the game for the first time and essentialy he feels it's the most fitting ending. But I've never heard him saying that "it's canon" or whatever.

 

[LecherousGranolaBar]

Oh for fucks sake. They decided to speak up on THAT, but they completely ignored subjects actually important to video games, like The Crew shutting down and the SKG campaign?

Why would they ignore the SKG campaign? There's literally only 1 correct side of it and the only retard that opposed it got reamed online, not even making any good points in the process.

As far as taking a side on something goes, SKG is free good boy points but I guess talking about some retarded woke games list is more important. It's kinda funny because I feel like this whole thing only blew up because dipshits gave attention to the DEI detected thing.

 

[LucasSomething]

Did he actually say that? I remember him saying that the "In Water" ending was the one that he got himself when he was playing the game for the first time and essentialy he feels it's the most fitting ending. But I've never heard him saying that "it's canon" or whatever.

I dont actually know since, i remember someone on a subreddit thread back when Pat was being roasted for edgerunners using those words and went with that, if i was wrong i take the L but i still disagree with him on his idea that "it's the most fitting cause James suffers the most", like his insistence that the last message SH protag "didnt suffer enough".

 

[Yeshuash]

I dont actually know since, i remember someone on a subreddit thread back when Pat was being roasted for edgerunners using those words and went with that, if i was wrong i take the L but i still disagree with him on his idea that "it's the most fitting cause James suffers the most", like his insistence that the last message SH protag "didnt suffer enough".

Wait, Pat got roasted over edgeruners? What for exactly?

 

[DEBIRU MAN]

Wait, Pat got roasted over edgeruners? What for exactly?

Pat thought the show was too slow and said it was boring. People asked if he actually watched it, and that caused him to say that the main protagonist was lame since he wasn't like Kamina from Gurren Legan. People then said Pat had to watch the rest of the show, as it was coming of age story at it's core. This caused Pat to triple down and say that all coming of age stories are bad, which people pointed out that he liked Persona 4 and Neon Genesis Evangelion. To which Pat respondes that those weren't coming of age stories, but instead were a Scooby Doo mystery game and a cool mecha show.

It was basically Pat revealing that his frontal lobe is completely rotted by streaming, and despite media consumption being his job. He clearly doesn't know what themes and subtext are in a story.

You can read more about it in this post.

 

[Living Failure]

It was basically Pat revealing that his frontal lobe is completely rotted by streaming, and despite media consumption being his job. He clearly doesn't know what themes and subtext are in a story.

It's kind of fascinating to see how much being early to the game is still worth. None of these guys are particularly good at playing any games, none are particularly knowledgeable about them in terms of mechanics (though they get points for knowing some interesting behind the scenes info on some, so we'll call it a wash), and none of them can identify the markers of a well-constructed narrative, let alone appreciate one. Normally I'd say "beyond the surface level", but I'm honestly not even sure Pat and Woolie understand the surface of a story, unless it's clearly spelled out to them. SH2 being so near and dear to Pat's heart is fucking baffling, considering it's all about subtlety and subtext, and he seems unable to parse any sort of story.
But despite being kind of shit at every facet of their job, they manage to still be in the Youtube gaming business to a big enough degree to finance their cushy and secure lifestyles.

 

[Marc]

Though it seems like the wall finally kept Paige at home to be Pat's mommy full-time, it still amuses me to imagine Pat doubling or quadrupling down on his contrarian nonsense on the podcast while being cucked. During the years where Paige was "on a business trip" doing drugs with Dax and Marie or staying with Eli on his farm during rutting season, I figure there must have been a podcast episode where Pat spent the whole three hours sending Paige texts marked "unread" while being an asshole to Liam or someone in chat who had dared to point out that he was incorrect about something he had just played or watched.

 

[Tanner Glass]

It's kind of fascinating to see how much being early to the game is still worth. None of these guys are particularly good at playing any games, none are particularly knowledgeable about them in terms of mechanics (though they get points for knowing some interesting behind the scenes info on some, so we'll call it a wash), and none of them can identify the markers of a well-constructed narrative, let alone appreciate one. Normally I'd say "beyond the surface level", but I'm honestly not even sure Pat and Woolie understand the surface of a story, unless it's clearly spelled out to them. SH2 being so near and dear to Pat's heart is fucking baffling, considering it's all about subtlety and subtext, and he seems unable to parse any sort of story.
But despite being kind of shit at every facet of their job, they manage to still be in the Youtube gaming business to a big enough degree to finance their cushy and secure lifestyles.

I wouldn't say "early to the game" but there was a point in time where Super Best Friends Play (aka under Matt) had a very clever and coherent content strategy that worked extremely well. They very specifically targeted silly adults.

The super serious "video games are art" adults were split among all the various "serious" "game journalists" of the time (your Jim Sterlings, Giantbomb, etc) where as your literal kids would gravitate towards youtubers who "acted up" in a significant way (aka Markiplier, JSE, Pewdiepie, Game Grumps, etc) but there weren't many targeting people who liked Let's Plays but weren't too far into either group.

They often intentionally missed trends and gravitated towards games they actually liked which was huge - and on top of that had a two person dynamic (or 3/4 later) that always kept the conversation moving. They specifically avoided the YT tropes everyone hated ("Like, comment, subscribe! Click on the bell! Check out our fansly page!") and grew a smaller but very dedicated audience as a result. On top of all of this - being early seemingly helped Matt learn the business side of YT from Machinma before they cast out on their own.

After that - it's basically all inertia for Woolie and Pat - and I think Pat no longer gives that much of a shit and is happy to phone it in to the tune of several hundred thousands of dollars per year where as Woolie thinks he's one clever idea away from being back on top, but even having just ~50 people (and they have hundreds) who will watch your streams consistently will put you in an amazing place on Twitch.

 

[Clippity Klop]

Saving this one here for posterity, suzi won't play SH2 remake she doesnt want to support uncreative lazyness lol.

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Pretending this is about lazy remakes is hilarious when your last videos were about 3 different capcom remakes and you're going to clap when Code Veronica and RE5 get remakes. This doesn't even make sense because Konami announced many new silent hill games, but i'm sure Suzi would explain it's different when capcom does it.

Such a baffling stance. It's too late to be angry about lazy remakes when you've shilled for them this much already. I agree with Signalis, but alan wake 2 is boring, over the shoulder DEI-infested trash. Go play Crow Country, Hollowbody, Conscript, Post Trauma and Becrowned instead. Also, fuck you for shilling the crappy GOG ports of the classics. They're only acceptable after a fair amount of modding.

Suzi is 110% a paid Capcom shill but I think the notion that he's only dismissing the SH2 remake because he didn't get paid or it's a conflict of interest with Capcom is nonsense. The truth is the game just looks like ass and Bloober team has no idea what they're doing. Capcom remakes barring RE3 and Dead Rising Deluxe are just a lot more competently made and respectful to the original work. That being said I'm happy to see him reap what he's sowed.

Honestly even remake 2 was dogshit. Last minute slapped together A-B scenarios, content locked behind paywalls, shitty scab voice actors and even worse writing than the original thanks to brent friedman. I finished it twice on hardcore via a rental and haven't touched RE since then. I wish capcom had the balls to make an actual survival horror game again like all these indie studios do now.

 

[Shekel Puff]

To which Pat respondes that those weren't coming of age stories, but instead were a Scooby Doo mystery game and a cool mecha show.

Good Christ, that's horrifying.

They specifically avoided the YT tropes everyone hated ("Like, comment, subscribe! Click on the bell! Check out our fansly page!") and grew a smaller but very dedicated audience as a result.

Yeah. I remember back in the day when they DIDN'T play Minecraft (which was during the time where everybody on YouTube was playing Minecraft) and that was quite a big deal back then.

 

[LucasSomething]

I'll always respect them for playing non mainstream games, like starting fucking yakuza 4 back before yakuza was big. They might be legit the only reason Deadly premonition got a sequel and metal wolf chaos was localized.

It helped build their niche of loyal fans and get people into lesser known series, to the point i already said here playing big games on release aka "break the glass" was jumping the shark, cause then the fandom started hating and not watching the other LPs.

 

[Fancy_Robot]

I'll always respect them for playing non mainstream games, like starting fucking yakuza 4 back before yakuza was big. They might be legit the only reason Deadly premonition got a sequel and metal wolf chaos was localized.

Their good "non mainstream games" were games they picked up from GiantBomb or NeoGAF, meme games with lots of content (good or bad) to exploit for videos. Matt got way too up his own ass in the last few years of the channel and a lot of LP time was wasted on boring schlock that couldn't even keep anyone's attention. He thought they could exploit just about anything, it wound up partially being their undoing in growth.

Pat is like a barely 500 viewer streamer at this point and Woolie is 200-300 (occasionally sub 100!) ,and Matt is just boring with his Wikipedia documentaries; I think I've lost most of my desire to be parasocial with this cast because they're irrelevant and they have the most loony left politics buttressed entirely with what's left of their fans and /r/gamingcirclejerk culture. It just doesn't seem worth it. There's plenty of other gaming content creators out there now, it's not 2011 anymore where it was these guys or the unfunny loser who did the bad Christopher Walken impersonation throughout his LPs or Game Grumps with that cuck Arin.

 

[Marc]

I can't be the only one looking forward to this:



We have two days for Pat to chicken out and cancel the stream to "stand in solidarity" with his tranny shield. He's worked himself into a corner where he'll either die inside while shilling it, or die inside while losing his fucking mind on stream. And because Pat fancies himself some sort of expert on Silent Hill lore, every room in this game will be an opportunity for him to demonstrate what a poser and midwit he is in his "analysis."

Edit to avoid doubleposting:

I was scrolling through Pat's tweets to see how he's been rationalizing playing the slop that Suzy fella is boycotting



- but first saw this tweet from Paige about how Pat was discovered to have eaten around a kilo (just over two pounds) of semi-sweet chocolate chips because he was "sad":



Of course, both of them have to infantilize Pat's depression and disordered eating so it can be on-brand for WACKY PAT! MIND GOBLINS! COUPLE OF BIG SILLIES TWEETIN' WHILE THE HELP RAISES THE BABY!

 

[Crab Zone]

Good Christ, that's horrifying.


Yeah. I remember back in the day when they DIDN'T play Minecraft (which was during the time where everybody on YouTube was playing Minecraft) and that was quite a big deal back then.

Them being a channel that wasn't going to have some autistic minecraft LP was part of the appeal. But as things went on their irrational hate towards it was so strange. I don't think they ever even touched it to get an idea s to what the fuck it was.

 

[Living Failure]

Them being a channel that wasn't going to have some autistic minecraft LP was part of the appeal. But as things went on their irrational hate towards it was so strange. I don't think they ever even touched it to get an idea s to what the fuck it was.

They did "play" that Telltale Minecraft game...

 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

So what is Pat's problem with the Silent Hill 2 remake? Is it a case of, "I hate this thing but it's getting good reviews now and Twitter's consensus seems to be positive so I'm gonna play it and still hate on it the entire time"? I'll admit I wasn't too impressed with it at first but it doesn't look too bad now.

Also, I really can't stand Suzi. If you dont want to play the game just say you don't want to play it. Don't give me this, "I'm tired of remakes" when you've sucked off and shilled for every RE Remake.

It still makes me laugh that Suzi hated Bayonetta 3 just because Bayonetta was confirmed straight. I stand by my belief that if the entire game had been exactly the same but she kissed Jeanne in the end, Suzi and Pat and everyone else in their little Twitter-sphere would be singing its praises to this day.

 

[Man In A Dress]

So what is Pat's problem with the Silent Hill 2 remake?

It's being made by Bloober team. Their previous game "The Medium" was received as mediocre and not being a very good horror game overall. So when you give an extremely popular games remake to a team that doesn't really get what makes a horror game good, then theres not much faith in SH2 remake being good.
But this is Pat we're talking about. The same guy who swore RE4 didn't need a remake (lol) . He'll most likely fixate on extremely minute details and argue that its wrong because the original game said otherwise.

 

[Marc]

To add to the above post I was ninja'd by:

So what is Pat's problem with the Silent Hill 2 remake?

He has eyes;, and has been reacting with open disgust to every teased bit of this game. But because Pat's an unprincipled trend chaser and performative Twitterbrain who would rather alienate his core audience than be called a nazi on ResetEra again, he has a tendency to panic and embarrass himself any time it isn't clear what his Xitter followers specifically want denounced that week. So he'll make a point of saying "trans rights" on stream, or boycotting Hogwarts Legacy by asserting "I DON'T WANT TO PLAY YOUR TERF FANTASY GAME" on stream (despite owing his career to Harry Potter Kinect) - But when the Xitter feed seems divided between shills and people accusing a video game of being Donald Trump, Pat tends to err on scrolling through the tranny shield's Xeets, then hiding behind the tranny under pretense of being on THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ISSUES; with zero acknowledgement that it's a transparently cynical attempt at insulating himself from criticism for the only genuine opinions he has all being malevolent and wrong, as well as insulting to the celebrity tranny ally he's reduced to a prop in his terminally online social life.

Though it wouldn't surprise me if Pat's stream suddenly gained a SPONSORED disclaimer once it's live, his current plan is likely to shit on it for subs in one five hour stream, then make a series of tweets about how his tranny shield was correct to boycott the game because "YO THAT SILENT HILL 2 REMAKE IS ASS." Then, on CSB, he'll devote twenty minutes to parroting the misremembered criticisms of other people under pretense of "explaining" the game's shortcomings to a nervously laughing (yet visibly uninterested) Woolie, before concluding with "It's not as bad as people are saying - but it's another one of those kicks to the nuts that every Silent Hill fan knows to expect from Konami, at this point. Uh, yo, I badly gotta take a piss; so...", which will cause Woolie to wake up and go "Oh, okay...um...quick break!." And that will be that until the next Silent Hill-branded turd finds its way onto the podcast.

 

[Kill Your Idols]

So what is Pat's problem with the Silent Hill 2 remake? Is it a case of, "I hate this thing but it's getting good reviews now and Twitter's consensus seems to be positive so I'm gonna play it and still hate on it the entire time"? I'll admit I wasn't too impressed with it at first but it doesn't look too bad now.

I'm pulling at memory strands that I barely cared about in the first place, so forgive me if this isn't completely accurate. I believe most of the hate stems the fact that Bloober Team is involved and they're very easy to hate on in terminally online circles. I'm no Bloober Team stan, they're fairly middle of the road to me, but at some point a heap of nontroversies gained traction whenever they released a game. This peaked when The Medium released and I remember a slew of takes about how Bloober Team mishandles their depiction of the mentally ill, because displaying distress in a psychological horror is bad now? I can't really say, none of the examples provided sounded particularly egregious to me so it felt like the monthly flair up to drum up drama over nothing so I ignored it.

Combine that with the general cynicism from the Silent Hill fanbase because their favorite series sucks and has sucked for a long time now, a lot of people were bitter about the remake from the get-go.