Mega Rad Gun Thread

[big pauper]

Suppressors and SBRs are overrated. The main appeal is the government not wanting you to have them.

I have several suppressors and a few SBRs, the only one I use anymore is my 9mm with a can because it’s still short and actually quiet. I have a .22 SBR with a can, but I don’t really use it.

I don’t even own a threaded barrel for a pistol anymore even though I have suppressors that could go on it.

Short rifles are obnoxious without a suppressor and still not hearing safe with one, and when you put a can on it becomes the same length as a full sized rifle. Rifle cans heat up very quickly, becoming a hazard, and causing mirage.

Not to mention any of the tuning required to get guns to run good suppressed, and increased gas to the face with a lot of rifle cans.

sbrs are functionally done for because they couldn't get away with the brace tomfoolery and now they have to commit to allowing people to use braces, which means that you don't have to pay a tax stamp if you just buy a brace, or just put a velcro strip on the side of your rifle stock and convert it to a pistol brace. there is no legal definition for what a pistol brace is because they had to throw away the one they made, so you can pretty much just say that it's a brace and there really isn't anything they can do about it anymore

 

[AncientPhosphur]

just put a velcro strip on the side of your rifle stock and convert it to a pistol brace. there is no legal definition for what a pistol brace is because they had to throw away the one they made, so you can pretty much just say that it's a brace and there really isn't anything they can do about it anymore

Interesting theory but I do not one to be the one who put it to test in court

 

[big pauper]

Interesting theory but I do not one to be the one who put it to test in court

theory? sig saur has been doing it for years. i don't see why it even needs to be tested in court, you can just buy a sig saur branded ak-74 stock with velcro on it



e: i'm only finding the sb tactical triangle brace but i swear that sig made one, that picture right there is a sig promo shot so im pretty sure they existed. they were all over the place when i was trying to buy one like 2 years ago

 

[SHIGGSHOGG]

Suppressors and SBRs are overrated. The main appeal is the government not wanting you to have them.

I have several suppressors and a few SBRs, the only one I use anymore is my 9mm with a can because it’s still short and actually quiet. I have a .22 SBR with a can, but I don’t really use it.

I don’t even own a threaded barrel for a pistol anymore even though I have suppressors that could go on it.

Short rifles are obnoxious without a suppressor and still not hearing safe with one, and when you put a can on it becomes the same length as a full sized rifle. Rifle cans heat up very quickly, becoming a hazard, and causing mirage.

Not to mention any of the tuning required to get guns to run good suppressed, and increased gas to the face with a lot of rifle cans.

Fair enough, but they're still useful in their own right. The issue with all this stuff is that people say it's more versatile and good than it is, when it should actually be used for rather uncommon tasks.

If you're doing real shit then they're quite useful, but for regular things they're not that important. If you're indoors or in dense areas with sub 300 yard ranges an SBR with a can is 100% worth the drawbacks since a rifle barrel and can would be too difficult to use, and no can indoors is terrible. If you're fighting and don't have a can you're sorta fucked. Even though your shots are still loud, they're pretty much untraceable at range due to the sonic crack of the bullet echoing before the muzzle report even reaches the target. Sound isn't the only thing either, if you're running NV or just in a dark area, you don't want a shit ton of flash. Even if you're not actually fighting but you're still out at night, you don't want to daze your acclimated night vision.

For sound stuff, it's like asking if you'd rather get hit by a truck or a bike with everything but rimfire. Sure you'll get cut up and break some bones, but it beats the hell out of being misted.
SBR with can is more useful within a set range than a rifle with can, but
It's really the maximum capability for the minimum package, since if carrying bulky shit in tight areas didn't suck then then it wouldn't even matter. Same reason you carry a pistol and not a shotgun really.
If you're just on a range then whatever, use plugs+earmuffs, but if you're hunting and don't have earpro a can is pretty sweet. A 300 win mag will fuck you up compared to one with a suppressor.

 

[Dean Pentel]

Side note love the Scalarworks fixed rear sight, I have both the front and rear fixed sights on my rifle. Nice wider and open peap sight and thinner front post for 16 inch barrels makes it easier to acquire your target.

Definitely agree with you on Scalarworks stuff. I run a lot of their stuff for optics and I'm also a big fan of their fixed sights. Not cheap but well worth their cost.

create an electronic fingerprint file ahead of time.

I fucking despise having to ask the government permission and pay a fee to exercise our natural rights but since there's no escaping that for NFA stuff, I highly recommend doing this. It is without a doubt a shit ton faster to get things processed this way, plus no having to get printed and mail those in for every single thing.

Short rifles are obnoxious without a suppressor and still not hearing safe with one, and when you put a can on it becomes the same length as a full sized rifle. Rifle cans heat up very quickly, becoming a hazard, and causing mirage.

You're not wrong about that and I can promise you suppressed SBRs are way, way better for fighting inside buildings. If that's something you want the rifle to be able to do I recommend the short barrel/can configuration. Mirage isn't an issue if your targets are within 100m. I've only had that be a problem for LR stuff personally.

Edit: Ninja'd by SHIGGY

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

I’m not saying there is no use case for SBRs and cans, but if that is your use case, you are probably issued them.

I’ve done force on force CQB training, and that is not something you want to do “for real” if you can avoid it.

 

[Samhain]

Suppressed SBRs are great for home defense, though. Slap a can on 10.3"-11.5" 5.56 AR and you've got a great home defense weapon. The argument that adding a suppressor to a shorty makes it just as long as a 16" barreled AR is irrelevant. A suppressed shorty is going to be significantly quieter than an unsuppressed 16", and that's important when you're torching off rounds indoors. Would you rather set off a 140dB pop in your house, or a 167dB? Keep in mind, decibels is a logarithmic scale. 167dB is 2.7x louder than 140dB. Unsuppressed 5.56 usually meters between 167dB and 172dB depending on barrel length.

 

[BikeLock]

Fixed sights with a red dot?

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Yes.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Yes.
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Is that a LMT rear sight?

I am been trying to buy one and they still all sold out.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Shooting down an FPV, with an AK, from the back of an ATV:

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

Suppressed SBRs are great for home defense, though. Slap a can on 10.3"-11.5" 5.56 AR and you've got a great home defense weapon. The argument that adding a suppressor to a shorty makes it just as long as a 16" barreled AR is irrelevant. A suppressed shorty is going to be significantly quieter than an unsuppressed 16", and that's important when you're torching off rounds indoors. Would you rather set off a 140dB pop in your house, or a 167dB? Keep in mind, decibels is a logarithmic scale. 167dB is 2.7x louder than 140dB. Unsuppressed 5.56 usually meters between 167dB and 172dB depending on barrel length.

Home defense is definitely a use case for a suppressor.

I used to keep a 11.5 with a can for that purpose, but my current living situation requires a weapon that can be used one handed so I can manage other family members.

 

[BikeLock]

Is that a LMT rear sight?

I am been trying to buy one and they still all sold out.

No.

It's a forged Colt A2 Carry handle that I cut down myself. Pretty much all I needed to do was put it in a vise and use a hacksaw, and then a bit of paint on the cut ends.

Basically the same thing.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

Got my RedHawk back from Ruger today. I had shot the hell out of it and it started getting light strikes constantly. Their work invoice in the package said they had to replace the firing pin assembly, mainspring and pawl. works like a typewriter again.

 

[likeacrackado]

theory? sig saur has been doing it for years. i don't see why it even needs to be tested in court, you can just buy a sig saur branded ak-74 stock with velcro on it
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e: i'm only finding the sb tactical triangle brace but i swear that sig made one, that picture right there is a sig promo shot so im pretty sure they existed. they were all over the place when i was trying to buy one like 2 years ago

These things kinda suck. They're just flimsy enough rubber/plastic that you'll notice it while firing. Not comparable to a real solid triangle stock, only looks similar. A better example is the cncn warrior folding brace/stock:

Same metal construction as the stock, only slimmed down the buttpad and added a tiny velcro strap.

 

[Bassomatic]

I got one of those PSA flash cans just to see whats up

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-custom-series-5-56-fluted-flash-can-1-2x28.html

If I remember I'll write up my thoughts. I reload so I'll try ever crazy load and surp and off shelf on it. I mentioned I'm on my LEE 6mm hunt, I have more than I need. I almost bought a KRISS 10mm just cause. I hate to admit been too long since I took a rifle out for practice. It's hunting season so, I need to use my bolts. I did have a very stressful day and camped out about 45 mins away, that was me getting drunk innawoods with an SKS (/k/ommandos never die we just get more autism).

I still want a PSA piston upper, not sure why I need it, but I do.

 

[Dean Pentel]

Got my RedHawk back from Ruger today.

I think Ruger makes excellent revolvers. Yes, there are definitely better out there but in my experience that jump in quality level requires a huge jump in cost.

Thread bros: I'm trying to find a bolt action .308 with an 18" barrel, magazine fed, CRF, and Pic rails machined into the receiver. The closest I can get is a Ruger 6822, their Gunsite Scout Rifle. If it didn't have its Pic rail in such a silly spot I'd jump on it. The CZ 600 Alpha also is almost there, but it's not magazine fed and I don't want an aluminum action for this. If it's just not in the cards or I have to have it custom-made, fine, but maybe one of you knows something I don't.

 

[Club Sandwich]

PSA flash cans

I reload so I'll try ever crazy load

drunk innawoods

a touch of flour in a rifle case with a normal load will generate a big fireball without excessive pressure. the professional method is 70% potassium perchlorate and 30% aluminum powder, however this requires sacrificing actual gun powder load significantly and needs a bit of air (do not compress).

via con dios.

 

[Bassomatic]

I think Ruger makes excellent revolvers. Yes, there are definitely better out there but in my experience that jump in quality level requires a huge jump in cost.

Thread bros: I'm trying to find a bolt action .308 with an 18" barrel, magazine fed, CRF, and Pic rails machined into the receiver. The closest I can get is a Ruger 6822, their Gunsite Scout Rifle. If it didn't have its Pic rail in such a silly spot I'd jump on it. The CZ 600 Alpha also is almost there, but it's not magazine fed and I don't want an aluminum action for this. If it's just not in the cards or I have to have it custom-made, fine, but maybe one of you knows something I don't.

How much are you willing to spend? I am feeling a mauser rebuild by a non retard. I think the gunsight might be your best option off books.

 

[Bassomatic]

a touch of flour in a rifle case with a normal load will generate a big fireball without excessive pressure.

via con dios.

If I end up burning half PA down Imma ask you for bail money. I mean thanks for the idea.

a touch of flour in a rifle case with a normal load will generate a big fireball without excessive pressure. the professional method is 70% potassium perchlorate and 30% aluminum powder, however this requires sacrificing actual gun powder load significantly and needs a bit of air (do not compress).

via con dios.

When I burn down half of my state can I call you for bail? At least to say, was a hoot?

 

[Dean Pentel]

How much are you willing to spend? I am feeling a mauser rebuild by a non retard. I think the gunsight might be your best option off books.

And that's the thing. I don't want to spend too much on it. I think you're probably right about this.

Edit: I went ahead and ordered the Ruger rifle. When it comes in and I get it setup/zeroed I'll post about it.