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I have decided to watch Jammidodger's video on Imane Khelif. You can read the breakdown below. Before I begin, best to keep this soyjack face in mind.
So, that said, Jamie referenced the Canadian report that honestly said puberty has no effect on athletic performance, and referenced a study she did not read. Here is the study.
Jamie focused on low VO2 output, but ignored the rest:
She also mentioned that elite men and elite women have overlapping testosterone. Let's have a look.
PhD in psychology, everyone.
0:48 - says that 'people are under the impression that Imane is a transwoman'. While this might have been the original argument, it was replaced by the DSD argument. Either way, Jamie is leaning into this so we'll follow it from there.
1:15 - she is bringing up the 'well the Russians ran the testing so therefore they are lying' argument, which Anna Slatz already debunked in her work. By 1:33 she is going all in on the 'It was Russia all along, Imane is a woman' argument.
2:56 - Says that Imane was competing for 'years without issue', and by 3:11 says problems only arose when Khelif won against a previously undefeated Russian boxer. This is the mythos surrounding Khelif as spread by Reddit and Twitter, so it is unsurprising that Jamie is taking this as a trusted source.
3:47 - Says the IBA never said what test Imane failed, when it is clear they said Imane had XY chromosomes. That is the test Khelif failed. By 3:55, Jamie uses the 'testosterone tests' lie, when it is clear that that was not the issue.
4:20 - Uses the classic 'Well they've lost a few matches, how are they dominating?' when discussing male advantages over women.
4:50 - Says that Imane and the Taiwanese boxer are both 'cis'. She referenced this bit:
5:00-5:50 - Just Jamie getting angry at JKR - quelle surprise - Logan Paul, End Wokeness, and Sharron Davies.
6:36 - Calls Liz Truss a transphobe because even she called it out, lmao
7:00 - Has a bit of a Freudian slip. Says both of these boxers are actually female, but also says these individuals are being 'transphobic' to them. How can you be transphobic to cis people, Jamie?
8:22 - complains about an article sharing 'multiple transphobic and assumptive tweets' when, according to Jamie, both of these individuals are 'true and honest women'. Another Freudian slip.
9:30 - says the tests showing that Imane and the Liu's failure to qualify were 'never shown' or known, when it is obvious that both had XY chromosomes. Jamie has not mentioned this.
9:54 - Poopahs those 'transphobic feminists' because how dare they not throw their support behind Liu and Imane. Fake feminists, am I right?
10:38 - Finally brings up an article showing the 'unknown gender tests' that they failed: Yu-ting and Khelif have XY chromosomes.
10:52 - complains that none of these articles were fact-checked and that this is all fearmongering.
11:30 - Says it was unfair Imane was reduced to 'vague test results' and how the media storm was about Carini. By 11:47, she begins on a pity party for Image, forgetting her father's statement that Imane had his gender changed by 'living in the mountains.'
12:40 - Imane's family has had to release personal documents showing Imane is a True and Honest woman, including the passport and childhood photos seen on the Internet. Jamie forgot to mention two independent labs also did chromosomal tests on Khelif, and said he had failed.
12:50 - brings up the article showing that Algeria is ready to sue those who said Khelif was a man. So far, no charges have been pressed, oddly.
14:08 - brings up resident lowcow and Assymetrical Tits 'cyberlawyer' Alex Caraballo as a means of support. What a source.
14:43 - 14:50 - snarks that Yu-Tings coach 'shouldn't have said anything' regarding whether Liu has XX chromosomes or not. Famously, both have refused to submit to independent testing.
15:26 - Says the IBA's hearing on the two boxers was a shitshow as a means of mockery, also says 'Reuters' like 'Rooters'. It's a German word, Jamie. Say it right.
15:46 - pulls the old cope that the Olympic opening ceremony was about Greek gods and traditional Bacchus ceremonies, when it was clear it resembled The Last Supper.
16:08 - Cites an article saying one of the doctors claiming testosterone tests were not done, despite Jamie hinging her argument that it was all based on high testosterone.
16:38 - Brings up the IOC spokesman and how he believes the two boxers were 'targeted'.
16:55 - Brings up the classic 'transphobia hurts cis women too' argument, wonders why people have such hatred towards trans people.
17:15 - Asks if it would still matter if Imane and Liu were transwomen (meaning they would still be male) and whether it would be an issue.
17:21 - Here we go. Brings up an article on transwomen in the Olympics back in the 1930s, and how the Nazis evilly took them out of it. By 17:30 she complains that people are very vocal about male's inclusion in women's sports.
17:37 - says criticism of transwomen in women's sports is based on ignorance of the criteria, because Jamie thinks that it's just hormones alone that causes sex differences. 17:48 she brings up Schulyar Bailar as a legitimate source. Bailar has said that there are no sex differences between men and women, despite her being a swimming prodigy as a female, and a loser as a 'man'.
18:00 - References GenderGP on how transwomen have no biological advantage over women in sport, and takes this seriously.
18:28 - mentions the IOC framework and how gender identity matters more than sex, and wants us to 'take in the evidence'. I suspect Caster Semenya will be brought up later.
19:02 - says those opposed to males in women's sports are 'biased from a political lens' when Jamie, being a woman pretending to be a man, is lying by omission and on purpose in order to protect her community.
19:14 - says that transphobes act like they 'know better than scientists and doctors'. This is a woman whose alleged thesis supervisor was J. Michael Bailey, a man whose book she hated so much due to transphobia she didn't even read. She was awarded her PhD for online surveys rather than real world research, btw.
19:31 - this is funny. She references a paper on aerobic capacity between trans athletes and female athletes as a means to show there are no differences. It is obvious she did not read it. By 19:53 she brings up the Canadian report on transgender inclusion in elite sport, which said this:
That's right: LUNG CAPACITY doesn't predict athletic performance. It also said the testosterone levels of elite males and females 'overlap', when this isn't even remotely true.
Also brings up the Joanna Harper study, who admitted, thanks to Emma Hilton, that transwomen retain biological advantages over women. Jamie did not read these studies past the abstracts, and it shows.
20:53 - pulls the classic 'if trans women had such huge advantages they'd be winning every match'. Boy, do I have a bridge to sell you, bitch. Five seconds later she says this 'doesn't happen', despite notable cases like Laurel Hubbard.
21:04 - says the 'evidence shows' transwomen are not competing in elite sport and are not breaking records or winning medals.
21:16 - thinks sex differences in sport is due to training, and says an 'untrained cis male cannot beat a higher trained female'. She clearly has not seen the videos of men doing just that.
21:37 - thinks every differences or disadvantage women have is due to social factors, such as lack of women's teams (that transwomen desperately want to get into) and violence against women in sports (that Jamie supports by wanting males in women's sports).
22:10 - says biomedical research 'shows no clear link between testosterone and athletic advantage', again assuming lowering T will make males like women:
22:56 - wants women to focus on bias against women, not transwomen, because transwomen don't threaten female sports and you're a bad little transphobe if you focus on that.
23:22 - says that including transwomen in women's sports is 'fair to women'.
24:01 - wants me to cry about outed uwu trans girls and how they are kicked out of school.
24:31 - says that 'sex is binary, and observed at birth' is a myth, while referencing an article that says trans girls are girls. 24:39 says that 'transwomen, intersex women, and cis women are all women' forgetting that transwomen are male.
24:43 - 'Sex is made up of multiple biological factors'. Says that women can have high testosterone. That does not make them male.
25:08 - 'Not everyone fits into a neat box' says the woman who thinks being a man involves having shitty hedgehog hair and shooting up testosterone.
25:22 - Pulls up the classic chromosome argument. Is unaware that it's the genes on the Y chromosome that guide male development.
25:32 - pulls the classic 'you don't know what chromosomes you have' argument. Yet Jamie magically knew she was a man because...?
25:36 - brings up the DSD argument, because why the fuck not.
26:07 - pulls the hypothetical that if someone were to find out they had a DSD (which is usually discovered at birth now, thanks to gene tests, or even in utero), would their interpretation of gender change? The answer is no, because a DSD is not a separate gender or sex.
26:15 - doesn't want trans people to have their own separate teams. Wants transwomen with the women, transmen with the men. Later says trans people have been competing as their 'chosen sex' for a long time and it's never been a problem since now so why are transphobes complaining?
27:20 - briefly mentions an 'Olympic trans athlete' (Hubbard, no doubt) competing and how it was 'no big deal'. It's just you transphobes making shit up!
27:35 - continues with the claim that transwomen have no advantage over actual women.
28:12 - is upset when transwomen are banned from female sport, because they totes don't have an advantage, yo.
28:25 - talks about puberty blockers and how it's bad they're getting banned. Later says this is wrong because this is medication 'that would have allowed them to compete' which is her tacitly admitting there's an advantage there.
29:03 - says we're 'ignoring the science'.
30:19 - brings up a paper discussing genes favourable to athleticism. Brings up the Michael Phelps gambit, a classic among troons, as a way to show that biological variability within sex is why males should compete with females.
31:16 - complains that women are being reduced to their body parts, wants males to compete with them because 'no biological advantage'.
31:22 - brings up historical examples of women in the Olympics who had to undergo testing to show they were women due to 'mannish' features, says this is why it's unfair that it's happening to Imane.
32:42- brings up Serena Williams being called a man, brings up racism. This admission that black/brown women are ugly and look like men is something they don't say outright but imply.
33:27 - brings up an article that brings up the DSD argument again.
Ends the video by ranting that it's unfair feminists are complaining and that they are transphobes and that they didn't complain as loud when a rapist was allowed to compete (they did) and that they should shut up and let transwomen compete because muh feeeeeeeeeeeeelings. Wants feminists to protect transwomen because that's just what good feminists do, instead of demanding that 'men' like her make it better for women. Can't stand this fucking retard. Should be noted she makes a lot of the same arguments idubbzz does, because they all have the same script.
1:15 - she is bringing up the 'well the Russians ran the testing so therefore they are lying' argument, which Anna Slatz already debunked in her work. By 1:33 she is going all in on the 'It was Russia all along, Imane is a woman' argument.
2:56 - Says that Imane was competing for 'years without issue', and by 3:11 says problems only arose when Khelif won against a previously undefeated Russian boxer. This is the mythos surrounding Khelif as spread by Reddit and Twitter, so it is unsurprising that Jamie is taking this as a trusted source.
3:47 - Says the IBA never said what test Imane failed, when it is clear they said Imane had XY chromosomes. That is the test Khelif failed. By 3:55, Jamie uses the 'testosterone tests' lie, when it is clear that that was not the issue.
4:20 - Uses the classic 'Well they've lost a few matches, how are they dominating?' when discussing male advantages over women.
4:50 - Says that Imane and the Taiwanese boxer are both 'cis'. She referenced this bit:
5:00-5:50 - Just Jamie getting angry at JKR - quelle surprise - Logan Paul, End Wokeness, and Sharron Davies.
6:36 - Calls Liz Truss a transphobe because even she called it out, lmao
7:00 - Has a bit of a Freudian slip. Says both of these boxers are actually female, but also says these individuals are being 'transphobic' to them. How can you be transphobic to cis people, Jamie?
8:22 - complains about an article sharing 'multiple transphobic and assumptive tweets' when, according to Jamie, both of these individuals are 'true and honest women'. Another Freudian slip.
9:30 - says the tests showing that Imane and the Liu's failure to qualify were 'never shown' or known, when it is obvious that both had XY chromosomes. Jamie has not mentioned this.
9:54 - Poopahs those 'transphobic feminists' because how dare they not throw their support behind Liu and Imane. Fake feminists, am I right?
10:38 - Finally brings up an article showing the 'unknown gender tests' that they failed: Yu-ting and Khelif have XY chromosomes.
10:52 - complains that none of these articles were fact-checked and that this is all fearmongering.
11:30 - Says it was unfair Imane was reduced to 'vague test results' and how the media storm was about Carini. By 11:47, she begins on a pity party for Image, forgetting her father's statement that Imane had his gender changed by 'living in the mountains.'
12:40 - Imane's family has had to release personal documents showing Imane is a True and Honest woman, including the passport and childhood photos seen on the Internet. Jamie forgot to mention two independent labs also did chromosomal tests on Khelif, and said he had failed.
12:50 - brings up the article showing that Algeria is ready to sue those who said Khelif was a man. So far, no charges have been pressed, oddly.
14:08 - brings up resident lowcow and Assymetrical Tits 'cyberlawyer' Alex Caraballo as a means of support. What a source.
14:43 - 14:50 - snarks that Yu-Tings coach 'shouldn't have said anything' regarding whether Liu has XX chromosomes or not. Famously, both have refused to submit to independent testing.
15:26 - Says the IBA's hearing on the two boxers was a shitshow as a means of mockery, also says 'Reuters' like 'Rooters'. It's a German word, Jamie. Say it right.
15:46 - pulls the old cope that the Olympic opening ceremony was about Greek gods and traditional Bacchus ceremonies, when it was clear it resembled The Last Supper.
16:08 - Cites an article saying one of the doctors claiming testosterone tests were not done, despite Jamie hinging her argument that it was all based on high testosterone.
16:38 - Brings up the IOC spokesman and how he believes the two boxers were 'targeted'.
16:55 - Brings up the classic 'transphobia hurts cis women too' argument, wonders why people have such hatred towards trans people.
17:15 - Asks if it would still matter if Imane and Liu were transwomen (meaning they would still be male) and whether it would be an issue.
17:21 - Here we go. Brings up an article on transwomen in the Olympics back in the 1930s, and how the Nazis evilly took them out of it. By 17:30 she complains that people are very vocal about male's inclusion in women's sports.
17:37 - says criticism of transwomen in women's sports is based on ignorance of the criteria, because Jamie thinks that it's just hormones alone that causes sex differences. 17:48 she brings up Schulyar Bailar as a legitimate source. Bailar has said that there are no sex differences between men and women, despite her being a swimming prodigy as a female, and a loser as a 'man'.
18:00 - References GenderGP on how transwomen have no biological advantage over women in sport, and takes this seriously.
18:28 - mentions the IOC framework and how gender identity matters more than sex, and wants us to 'take in the evidence'. I suspect Caster Semenya will be brought up later.
19:02 - says those opposed to males in women's sports are 'biased from a political lens' when Jamie, being a woman pretending to be a man, is lying by omission and on purpose in order to protect her community.
19:14 - says that transphobes act like they 'know better than scientists and doctors'. This is a woman whose alleged thesis supervisor was J. Michael Bailey, a man whose book she hated so much due to transphobia she didn't even read. She was awarded her PhD for online surveys rather than real world research, btw.
19:31 - this is funny. She references a paper on aerobic capacity between trans athletes and female athletes as a means to show there are no differences. It is obvious she did not read it. By 19:53 she brings up the Canadian report on transgender inclusion in elite sport, which said this:
That's right: LUNG CAPACITY doesn't predict athletic performance. It also said the testosterone levels of elite males and females 'overlap', when this isn't even remotely true.
Also brings up the Joanna Harper study, who admitted, thanks to Emma Hilton, that transwomen retain biological advantages over women. Jamie did not read these studies past the abstracts, and it shows.
20:53 - pulls the classic 'if trans women had such huge advantages they'd be winning every match'. Boy, do I have a bridge to sell you, bitch. Five seconds later she says this 'doesn't happen', despite notable cases like Laurel Hubbard.
21:04 - says the 'evidence shows' transwomen are not competing in elite sport and are not breaking records or winning medals.
21:16 - thinks sex differences in sport is due to training, and says an 'untrained cis male cannot beat a higher trained female'. She clearly has not seen the videos of men doing just that.
21:37 - thinks every differences or disadvantage women have is due to social factors, such as lack of women's teams (that transwomen desperately want to get into) and violence against women in sports (that Jamie supports by wanting males in women's sports).
22:10 - says biomedical research 'shows no clear link between testosterone and athletic advantage', again assuming lowering T will make males like women:
22:56 - wants women to focus on bias against women, not transwomen, because transwomen don't threaten female sports and you're a bad little transphobe if you focus on that.
23:22 - says that including transwomen in women's sports is 'fair to women'.
24:01 - wants me to cry about outed uwu trans girls and how they are kicked out of school.
24:31 - says that 'sex is binary, and observed at birth' is a myth, while referencing an article that says trans girls are girls. 24:39 says that 'transwomen, intersex women, and cis women are all women' forgetting that transwomen are male.
24:43 - 'Sex is made up of multiple biological factors'. Says that women can have high testosterone. That does not make them male.
25:08 - 'Not everyone fits into a neat box' says the woman who thinks being a man involves having shitty hedgehog hair and shooting up testosterone.
25:22 - Pulls up the classic chromosome argument. Is unaware that it's the genes on the Y chromosome that guide male development.
25:32 - pulls the classic 'you don't know what chromosomes you have' argument. Yet Jamie magically knew she was a man because...?
25:36 - brings up the DSD argument, because why the fuck not.
26:07 - pulls the hypothetical that if someone were to find out they had a DSD (which is usually discovered at birth now, thanks to gene tests, or even in utero), would their interpretation of gender change? The answer is no, because a DSD is not a separate gender or sex.
26:15 - doesn't want trans people to have their own separate teams. Wants transwomen with the women, transmen with the men. Later says trans people have been competing as their 'chosen sex' for a long time and it's never been a problem since now so why are transphobes complaining?
27:20 - briefly mentions an 'Olympic trans athlete' (Hubbard, no doubt) competing and how it was 'no big deal'. It's just you transphobes making shit up!
27:35 - continues with the claim that transwomen have no advantage over actual women.
28:12 - is upset when transwomen are banned from female sport, because they totes don't have an advantage, yo.
28:25 - talks about puberty blockers and how it's bad they're getting banned. Later says this is wrong because this is medication 'that would have allowed them to compete' which is her tacitly admitting there's an advantage there.
29:03 - says we're 'ignoring the science'.
30:19 - brings up a paper discussing genes favourable to athleticism. Brings up the Michael Phelps gambit, a classic among troons, as a way to show that biological variability within sex is why males should compete with females.
31:16 - complains that women are being reduced to their body parts, wants males to compete with them because 'no biological advantage'.
31:22 - brings up historical examples of women in the Olympics who had to undergo testing to show they were women due to 'mannish' features, says this is why it's unfair that it's happening to Imane.
32:42- brings up Serena Williams being called a man, brings up racism. This admission that black/brown women are ugly and look like men is something they don't say outright but imply.
33:27 - brings up an article that brings up the DSD argument again.
Ends the video by ranting that it's unfair feminists are complaining and that they are transphobes and that they didn't complain as loud when a rapist was allowed to compete (they did) and that they should shut up and let transwomen compete because muh feeeeeeeeeeeeelings. Wants feminists to protect transwomen because that's just what good feminists do, instead of demanding that 'men' like her make it better for women. Can't stand this fucking retard. Should be noted she makes a lot of the same arguments idubbzz does, because they all have the same script.
Jamie focused on low VO2 output, but ignored the rest:
Of course, there was this wee tidbit. One of the lead authors is a troon:
In short: transwomen are larger and heavier than women, and have lower VO2 output because the estrogen is making them fat, lmao. She didn't read the study, and only brought up the abstract and conclusions she liked.
This is what she's focusing on.
The android-to-gynoid ratio analysis (table 2) suggests that hormone therapy (figure 1A,B) influences differences in fat distribution patterns. However, fat distribution patterns of the present transgender female athlete cohort (table 2) do not reach ratios previously reported in cisgender female populations (0..33 Understanding these variations is essential for evaluating performance in sports where body composition is a determining factor, for example, weightlifting or boxing.
In short: transwomen are larger and heavier than women, and have lower VO2 output because the estrogen is making them fat, lmao. She didn't read the study, and only brought up the abstract and conclusions she liked.
She also mentioned that elite men and elite women have overlapping testosterone. Let's have a look.
PhD in psychology, everyone.
