Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

We have a pretty good idea of his lolsuit history and through that we know he has not won a single case; in at least two cases he's been forced to pay legal fees.

We know his lolsuit cases, his eviction case, and this recently discovered weird hooker case he tried to inject himself into.

It's quite likely that there are other cases that have never progressed enough or have never been found, little stupid shit.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Honestly if the judge finds a way to support Greer after the latest insanity, and not even putting forth a schedule to move forward, it should be a slam dunk to dismiss the case.

I know Josh has said on MATI that he had some good reasons to not seek a dismissal, but that was when it had been initially transferred to the Middle District of Florida. At this point, I can think of no good reason why Hardin isn't putting forward an aggressive motion to dismiss with prejudice. It's reaching the point that I'd be thinking about a potential writ of mandamus, even if that ultimately would be far too extreme. I looked at the docket for the case and it's shocking. There are complex civil cases that have gone to trial and are on appeal that have fewer docket entries.

 

[Null]

Once the Judge gave Greer an automated, unrequested extension to all filings, the want of prosecution became meritless. He's still active, he's still filing shit, and thanks to that egregious extension of half a fucking year he's still timely. Sure, they don't make sense. Sure, they don't progress the case.

Basis for a dismissal for WOP:
Inactivity (Greer is active)
Missed deadlines (Greer is timely except now on one filing)
Lack of evidence (10th Circuit ruling)
Settlement (No)

So why do you keep suggesting this? Are you just assuming it's not fair? Yes, of course it's not fair, it's the US court system. Nothing is fair. It's fucking retarded. You don't get an entire case dismissed because he's late on a scheduling conference by a few days (and yes it's now only a few days 4 years in because the judge reset everything).

I think I hate the most is the non-lawyers just suggesting random shit. "uhm did u press the 'i dont want to be sued' button???" yea, we tried that already mate, nice thinking though. heart's in the right place.

 

[Harm]

Have you tried turning the lawsuit off and turning it back on again?

 

[Harvey Danger]

Have you tried turning the lawsuit off and turning it back on again?

That's exactly what the dismissal and appeal was.

 

[TractorGirl]

I miss the AGT lawyers, they owned his bitch arse.

 

[jerkstore]

I miss the AGT lawyers, they owned his bitch arse.

sadly, they were mostly able to do so because he signed an audition document with an arbitration clause for which his only argument against was that he was so confident he was going to win AGT that he couldn’t understand what he was signing.

(edit: he didn’t read it.)

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Too bad Null didn’t have a binding arbitration agreement in the forum signup

 

[Pee Cola]

Too bad Null didn’t have a binding arbitration agreement in the forum signup

This but unironically.

 

[Not a bee]

If the judge keeps holding Russtard's hand and sides with him because "ebil kiwi farms", why doesn't Hardin remind the judge that Russell is a shitty pervert that thinks he can sue women that dare say no to him? I know he did it before, IMO maybe do it again because the judge is a fossil and needs a good reminder.

Russell keeps using emotional vocabulary to try to get the Judge to sympathize with him, and I'm MATI that it is working. Editted to add more.

 

[jerkstore]

If the judge keeps holding Russtard's hand and sides with him because "ebil kiwi farms", why doesn't Hardin remind the judge that Russell is a shitty pervert that thinks he can sue women that dare say no to him? I know he did it before, IMO maybe do it again because the judge is a fossil and needs a good reminder.

Russell keeps using emotional vocabulary to try to get the Judge to sympathize with him, and I'm MATI that it is working. Editted to add more.

hardin is absolutely playing the long game, and with the email exchanges and russell’s email tantrum where he cussed hardin out after hardin legit was only trying to help him adds to that. this judge sucks big time, but hardin is even trying to help russ more than the judge is, and russ is tantruming and playing the tard card again, but with added tard rage. we have to have patience. a SHIT TON has happened last week that has a different flavor than the rest of the filings. i’m not going rainbows, been burned too many times for that, but russ has gone full russ this time. wait and see.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Exactly. The game is the waiting game - let him prosecute if he wants. Otherwise just keep being respectful and helpful.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

Even if Hardin was "on his knees begging for mediation" as Russ says, and then pulled out of it when DJF dropped Russ because he thought he's an "easy target", so what?

It's completely within Null's rights and makes perfect sense that he'd consider mediation when Russ has free lawyers who actually managed a win, but not when they're gone and the idiot who already lost the case before and has never won a case in his life is the only one his real lawyer is up against. Why would the judge be shocked by this?

As I've aid before, Russ has the right idea when he emails Hardin "I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO WIN ANYWAY, SO WHY DON'T YOU DO YOURSELVES A FAVOR AND SETTLE? MUWAHHAHA!" but immediately ruins it when constantly whining to the judge "Me too stupid to know how to law! I don't know what I'm doing, it's all French to me, I'm trying my best!!!" Why would anyone be intimidated that?

This also goes back to how every time Russ is handed a loss, he turns around and copies it in one of his lawsuits, not knowing why the same move that worked on him doesn't work on others: in this case, the AGT lawsuit. Russ signed an arbitration agreement and then sued, arguing it didn't apply, and AGT submitted to the judge an email where Russ said he would accept mediation if they would pay the $7000 for his share, which they readily agreed to, yet Russ still insisted on suing against the contract he signed. Russ argued that this was "reverse psychology" because he thought they'd never agree to pay his share of mediation, so never actually meant to agree to it. Now, he flips it around and seems to think the fact that Null was once willing to come to the table means he's ironbound to accept mediation, when of course, this situation doesn't apply, since Null never signed an arbitration agreement like Russell did with AGT

 

[jerkstore]

Even if Hardin was "on his knees begging for mediation" as Russ says, and then pulled out of it when DJF dropped Russ because he thought he's an "easy target", so what?

It's completely within Null's rights and makes perfect sense that he'd consider mediation when Russ has free lawyers who actually managed a win, but not when they're gone and the idiot who already lost the case before and has never won a case in his life is the only one his real lawyer is up against. Why would the judge be shocked by this?

As I've aid before, Russ has the right idea when he emails Hardin "I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO WIN ANYWAY, SO WHY DON'T YOU DO YOURSELVES A FAVOR AND SETTLE? MUWAHHAHA!" but immediately ruins it when constantly whining to the judge "Me too stupid to know how to law! I don't know what I'm doing, it's all French to me, I'm trying my best!!!" Why would anyone be intimidated that?

This also goes back to how every time Russ is handed a loss, he turns around and copies it in one of his lawsuits, not knowing why the same move that worked on him doesn't work on others: in this case, the AGT lawsuit. Russ signed an arbitration agreement and then sued, arguing it didn't apply, and AGT submitted to the judge an email where Russ said he would accept mediation if they would pay the $7000 for his share, which they readily agreed to, yet Russ still insisted on suing against the contract he signed. Russ argued that this was "reverse psychology" because he thought they'd never agree to pay his share of mediation, so never actually meant to agree to it. Now, he flips it around and seems to think the fact that Null was once willing to come to the table means he's ironbound to accept mediation, when of course, this situation doesn't apply, since Null never signed an arbitration agreement like Russell did with AGT

sorry, but refresh my memory, where did a $7k price tag for mediation come in??? i don’t remember that at all, and don’t know that price to be anywhere approaching normal in cases so similarly low-bar. i remember them offering to cover his expenses for mediation, but $7k is absolutely absurd with a pre-existing and signed arbitration piece of a contract.

 

[mindlessobserver]

hardin is absolutely playing the long game, and with the email exchanges and russell’s email tantrum where he cussed hardin out after hardin legit was only trying to help him adds to that. this judge sucks big time, but hardin is even trying to help russ more than the judge is, and russ is tantruming and playing the tard card again, but with added tard rage. we have to have patience. a SHIT TON has happened last week that has a different flavor than the rest of the filings. i’m not going rainbows, been burned too many times for that, but russ has gone full russ this time. wait and see.

The judge has to do something about the last exchanges or he goes mask off completely. At the end of the day Pro Se litigants must still comply with the rules and decorum of the court. They get more leeway, but that leeway is not infinite. And a profanity laced screed combined with the demand the opposing council cease contact is something that has to be smacked down hard. It doesn't necessarily have to end Russels case, and I guarantee it wont, but it is something that has to be addressed.

There are a two thing I could see the Judge doing. The first is holding the scheduling conference over Zoom with the Judge presiding, which would be funny because Russel will have to talk. The other option is the parties could be summoned to chambers for a reading of the Riot Act, and Russel would have to pay for Hardins transportation costs. That would be an equitable response IMO that raps the plaintiff on the hand while also allowing him to proceed.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Russ harps on the settlement because that is the ONLY way to get want he wants.

Null losing completely and paying up would get him money and we’d pony up the cash and keep laughing at him.

 

[jerkstore]

The judge has to do something about the last exchanges or he goes mask off completely. At the end of the day Pro Se litigants must still comply with the rules and decorum of the court. They get more leeway, but that leeway is not infinite. And a profanity laced screed combined with the demand the opposing council cease contact is something that has to be smacked down hard. It doesn't necessarily have to end Russels case, and I guarantee it wont, but it is something that has to be addressed.

There are a two thing I could see the Judge doing. The first is holding the scheduling conference over Zoom with the Judge presiding, which would be funny because Russel will have to talk. The other option is the parties could be summoned to chambers for a reading of the Riot Act, and Russel would have to pay for Hardins transportation costs. That would be an equitable response IMO that raps the plaintiff on the hand while also allowing him to proceed.

SO MUCH YES!!

 

[ScooterL]

why doesn't Hardin remind the judge that Russell is a shitty pervert that thinks he can sue women that dare say no to him

The judge may have sympathy if he's also be a shitty pervert who hates women who say no to him.

 

[AnOminous]

sorry, but refresh my memory, where did a $7k price tag for mediation come in???

It was the arbitration fee. And yes, Russ made that offer and then reneged on it and his "reason" for it was lmao me troll u basically.

$7,700 is the filing fee for "undetermined monetary claims" and since Russhole did his usual millions and zillions of dollars in plights damages bullshit, he probably triggered that himself.

ETA: actually the arbitration group was JAMS and it was $1,750 for them and $1,750 for him. This is apparently their two-party fee, which has since been raised to $2,000.

 

[Empress Nympho]

sorry, but refresh my memory, where did a $7k price tag for mediation come in??? i don’t remember that at all, and don’t know that price to be anywhere approaching normal in cases so similarly low-bar. i remember them offering to cover his expenses for mediation, but $7k is absolutely absurd with a pre-existing and signed arbitration piece of a contract.

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