Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Pallas' Cat]

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Hi folks, more than halfway through my third year of transition and feeling a bit disappointed/confused about my breast growth. I’ve been on injections the whole time, started on 10mg weekly alongside 100mg spiro and dropped the spiro and started 100mg progesterone at about the 6 month mark. I lowered my E dose to 8mg weekly earlier this year. It feels like I’ve plateau’d for a while after not experiencing any significant growth in the first place. I can’t really remember the last time they were sore The women in my family all have smaller breasts, and I’m quite tall so appearance-wise they seem smaller, but I’m afraid of having cheated myself out of growth at some point during transition. Noticed some changes recently after making an effort to eat more and hitting the gym a lot, but I’m not sure if more fat is the only thing I need.

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Does anyone know how doctors actually determine the dosages for mtfs? Just curious because none of the medications seem to actually make much of a difference. PL, but I have been on some of these medications for fertility treatments, and with that comes blood tests and lining checks every other day to see if the meds are getting hormones and lining thickness into the right range based on cycle day, or if dosage needs to be adjusted. But since troons have no menstrul cycle or female reproductive system for those medications to "plug into", is it just doctors writing a half-assed Rx to make the troon happy and keep him moving through the pipeline?

With ftms the testosterone at least seems a little more clear because testosterone has very noticeable effects on the pooner's physical appearance, and the goal seems to be to maximize that without overprescribing to the point that they stroke out or their kidneys rebel.

Honestly, I don't see it. She is overweight, super pale - and yeah, you get it. And hers aren't abnormally large in any way, just large. Also, tubular breasts are normal for women with large breasts like hers, who don't use a bra. She's gone native and this is the expected result, big deal. This is the same crap as "life saving" stomach reductions for people who could just stop eating. Just eat less, workout, get into a group which does back exercises specifically and you're golden. Of course a fat, overweight couch potato is gonna have back problems but it's not like UPS workers don't get the same issues by carrying way heavier loads all day. I don't know, I think @Larry David's Opera Cape is right on this one.
But it may also be butchery fatigue which clouds my judgement here.

I don't know what you're talking about, she looks mid thirties going by her unblurred husband. They look healthy and well fed. I don't know where you get the idea that natives are by default ausschwitz victims when they don't even look that part to being with.

Crazy thing is, if this gal is in the U.S., it was probably easier for her to get the double mastectomy covered by insurance in the name of her trans identity than it would have been for her to get a breast reduction as a "cis" woman.

 

[batteredpancakes]

META OVER PHALLO HORROR STORY:

This is u/RunInternational9609 a rather interesting dutch pooner with facial tattoos. It looks like her phallus is worse than it was a few months ago. Root Archive

My first post was in November 2022 where she has a failed metoidioplasty. The worst I've seen.

Spoiler: ouch

In may 2023 she posted an update of her pissing through the healed metoidioplasty. Videos in the link.

Its ugly. Its just really fucked. I have like 5 fistulas and i have had them for 6 months now. I want phalloplasty to fix this. I hate it, really much. Im still in pain everyday. My urethra will be placed back to my perineum in 4 weeks. They want do phallo right now because they're scared of New rare complications.

In December 2023 she got a phalloplasty

Spoiler: Looks terrible

January 2024 with an update where it is now red and painful looking. Not that she can feel it or anything. Speculation that the graft is failing here.

Spoiler: oh no

February 2024 with a promising update. Looks way better. 2nd surgery is planned.

Spoiler: less red

September 2024 (11 days ago) has an update where the phallus has now bent out of shape after the most recent surgery. For as to why here's her text explanation

See my post history to make sense of my story. I had stage 2 4 days ago, they extended my phallo and used part of my thigh for skin graft to close it. It got really big, my dick is currently 17 CM, and I have to wear it up for at least 2 weeks. So I am walking around with a massive boner. Everything went well except for the fact that my body reacted really weird to anesthesia. I haven't been able to sleep for more then 30 minutes since Monday so I just went to the GP for sleep medication because I was starting to lose my mind. And I was nauseous for 2 days and threw up everything I ate except for crackers with cheese. I am worried for the next 2 surgerys, i don't know how my body is gonna keep this up. I'm especially worried because next time I will get a catheter etc again. I am losing hope and trust that I can do this...

Spoiler: duck

Now for today it looks like the graft is failing.

Spoiler: Today

Hi there, See my post history to make sense of my story. Im almost 3 weeks post op and life finally starts to feel okey again, this one was rough. It was a lot of pain and not a lot of sleep wich almost made me psychotic. I have feeling in my phallo, so thats a yay! But i am having a hard time accepting it, im now 2 surgerys in and all in have is a formless dick thats still 3 cm to high up. My balls need to be put more up, implants, erection implant, UL and nerve graft from arm, and the head needs to be shaped. I can't take 3 or 4 more surgerys, but my surgeon is thinking of doing UL in the next one and that's it. I have a appointment with him in november and I am gonna tell him that my body can't take much more surgery's. Also my life has been on hold for 4 years now because of my failed meta, i am almost 26 now, I want to build a carreer etc. My current dick looks weird, doesn't really fold in my boxers, doesn't create a bulge. I am disappointed for now, but I am not done yet. Patience patience patience....

It'll be interesting to see where this leads.

 

[Coldsteel the Hedgehog]

The problem with "lol she has big boobs, she should just have them carved up to be more manageable" is that the mindset toggle involved is completely binary. Either as a society we become comfortable with slicing and dicing to address mental health, fitness, discipline, and other problems that could be readily addressed through non-surgical means. Or we stand firm with the stance of "no, it's insane to cut up a person's stomach. If he needs to lose weight, we point him to options for diet and exercise."

Boobs are pretty proportional, if you've got massive tits, they're not going to stop being massive just because you lost fifty pounds. I lost 100lbs and went from a DDD to a DD, weight loss isn't really a valid option when you're that top heavy.

I feel for the girl. Getting top surgery is easier than getting breast reductions done because we live in clown world, despite oversized breasts being known to cause substantial health problems and permanent skeletal deformation. There's a difference between liposuction because you're fat and don't want to work out and having God curse you with carrying 15lbs of weight on your chest for the rest of your life.

Back on topic, though, I wish more people talked about the longterm effects of binding. It absolutely destroys the breast tissue and is the #1 complaint I hear from detransitioned women who still have tthem.its completely irreversible and even "responsible" binding will cause it in a matter of years. Not to mention the horror stories about collapsed lungs and pneumonia. That shits scary.

 

[Metal Slime 20x6]

i keep bitching about it but there are some AMAZING hyper realistic prosthetics out there that cost like 200-500usd. It’s actually insane.

Ok but did anyone else scroll through this prosthesis site and literally lol at this pic?

Spoiler: Dishwasher

 

[whotfsaidthat]

I wonder what these doctor's results were like in other surgeries before they got into hacking trannies. I'm willing to bet not as good as other surgeons. And of course they have the added benefit of not stressing over outcomes. These procedures are experimental legally speaking IIRC and so patients can't really kick up too much of a fuss, at least if they're adults signing the papers themselves. Cosmetic surgery that doesn't need a good cosmetic outcome that's covered by a lot of insurance. If I was a sociopathic flesh crafter I'd get in on the easy money while it lasts too.

they have the easiest excuse too if they ever get into a lawsuit
"i was abiding by WPATH guidelines"
there, youre out of court and the troon you butchered lost even more money without gaining anything.

 

[Potato Burrito]

This is u/RunInternational9609 a rather interesting dutch pooner with facial tattoos.

Dang she's kinda attractive for a pooner. (I will graciously accept Deviant stickers for this comment)

How many surgeries will it take before she finally listens to her body and knocks off this quixotic quest to attach a poor facsimile of a dick to her body? It ain't workin' doll, time to pack it in.

It'll be interesting to see where this leads.

I think we all know where it leads. She's gonna Gruffin herself if she doesn't stop this foolishness. Her body clearly wants nothing to do with these abominations. How transphobic of her meat sack.

 

[papaya]

I recently learned that over 90% of women have cellulite in some form, whereas less than 10% of men do. Good info for those looking for more “tells”.

Which surgeon will be the first to offer gender affirming cottage cheese implants?

 

[Fapcop]

A pooner has a “funny” story…



“With my dick outside the toilet…”
“I put my dick in the toilet so fast…”

WTF LIL POONER?!? How big is your rotdog monstrosity if it’s just RESTING ON THE TOILET SEAT as you’re taking a shit?!

These phallo-fuckeries are so gross and unnatural. Imagine having to wrestle a piece of arm flesh every time you sit down on a toilet.

Also… A poll that made me lol:



Ah yes, of course the manly men on r/phallo all have a sewing machine on standby, to whip up a quick packer, or a cute hat for the little peensie!

 

[Dr. Armchair]

A pooner has a “funny” story…

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“With my dick outside the toilet…”
“I put my dick in the toilet so fast…”

WTF LIL POONER?!? How big is your rotdog monstrosity if it’s just RESTING ON THE TOILET SEAT as you’re taking a shit?!

These phallo-fuckeries are so gross and unnatural. Imagine having to wrestle a piece of arm flesh every time you sit down on a toilet.

Also… A poll that made me lol:

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Ah yes, of course the manly men on r/phallo all have a sewing machine on standby, to whip up a quick packer, or a cute hat for the little peensie!

‘Yes but I’m too AFRAID to try sewing.’

i don’t know whether to laugh or weep at the absolute fucken retardedness of Poonerville.

WHAT THE HELL HAHAHHAHAA (okay i choose laughter)

 

[grenouille crétine]

Spoiler: women are mysterious creatures and their biology is a mystery, pt 5000

Just eat less, workout, get into a group which does back exercises specifically and you're golden.

That’s not how tits work

But it may also be butchery fatigue which clouds my judgement here.

Yes and the Y chromosome

Either as a society we become comfortable with slicing and dicing to address mental health, fitness, discipline, and other problems that could be readily addressed through non-surgical means.

That’s not how tits work

There's a difference between liposuction because you're fat and don't want to work out and having God curse you with carrying 15lbs of weight on your chest for the rest of your life.

That is how tits work

its completely irreversible and even "responsible" binding will cause it in a matter of years.

Very cool information relevant to the SRS thread my hedgehog brother, go out and slice to the extreme. That is also how tits work.

Fwiw probably unsurprising, but most pooners ime do not bind responsibly. Those that bind are neurotic about it, genderspecials with DDDs who don’t care may look especially foolish but at least they are leaving themselves open to reduction of healthy tissue one day. Girls said they slept and showered and swam in those things, and definitely wore them longer than 4-6 hours on a regular basis. Yes, they stink. It’s like a crazy person with lucky underwear they uh, overwear, except the underwear is a corset.

As you said, following the instructions will not prevent damage over time, yet I feel like you hear more about how estrogen causes gynecomastia than that binding will fuck up your entire upper body. I don’t fault people for not realizing just how bad they are since they look pretty innocuous, like tank tops or tight sports bras. But they are very bad, and much easier than surgery for teenagers to get their hands on. I think some GSA clubs have even given binders away to tweens.

The vast majority is them doodling on the coffin

Holy shit, they literally threw him in an uncovered plywood box on a dinky little stand pushed around by a balding gigahon in a yellow sundress (FOR A FUNERAL???) and let drug addicts draw all over him. Maybe it’s just because I’ve never actually seen a wooden, drawable coffin like that before and so it’s a double-whammy, but if I were going to write/draw a message directly over the dead body of someone I ostensibly cared about pretty sure I could do better than “thanks for the tits”. Death may have a been a blessing for this man. Disrespected by his own people to the last.

i keep bitching about it but there are some AMAZING hyper realistic prosthetics out there that cost like 200-500usd.

I am pleased to share for those with interest that over in Tranny Ls there has recently been discussion of uppercasechase, a TIF who makes money by posting fake dick reviews with soyface thumbnails to YouTube sans age restriction (last I heard, anyway), because children have a right to see ugly women cosplaying as teenage boys and fondling hyperrealistic silicone dicks.

 

[Fapcop]

‘Yes but I’m too AFRAID to try sewing.’

i don’t know whether to laugh or weep at the absolute fucken retardedness of Poonerville.

WHAT THE HELL HAHAHHAHAA (okay i choose laughter)

Fucking pooners man!

I never got my sewing machine license but I sure as fuck ain’t scared of it lmao!

Holy shit, they literally threw him in an uncovered plywood box on a dinky little stand pushed around by a balding gigahon in a yellow sundress (FOR A FUNERAL???) and let drug addicts draw all over him.

Can’t think of a worse or more humiliating way to go tbh.

The BPD mom who abused him into trannydom really dotted the i’s with that funeral.

But they are very bad, and much easier than surgery for teenagers to get their hands on. I think some GSA clubs have even given binders away to tweens.

Pour one out for the poor D cups out there, bros! Tied up, squeezed to death and murdered before they ever had a chance. Sad!

Here’s a rather eye opening poll from r/phallo…



TWELVE out of NINETEEN victims had some kind of stricture or fistula. And 7 say no MAJOR complications and not “NO complications”.

In other news, a new butcher team opened up. Doing both rotdogs and ditches.


“Great gut feeling…” “Friendly and caring…” “Made me feel special…”


“Super nice!” “Great gut feeling!”


Ah yes, trust the gut! That little voice that tells you, that you should hack up your genitals? Listen to it!


What’s not to like? They’re nice and make both pooners and troons comfortable!

Well, today a new post popped up…

“They seem to be nice but…”

uWu wat dis? Ten major surgeries and going septic?

Whatever happened to “trust the gut” lol!

 

[Caesar]

Which surgeon will be the first to offer gender affirming cottage cheese implants?

Your own eyes will easily tell you that what most of these people are lacking is not cheese (or spare chromosomes)

Lol Dr Anger.

 

[sheepworldvizor]

I recently learned that over 90% of women have cellulite in some form, whereas less than 10% of men do. Good info for those looking for more “tells”.

Which surgeon will be the first to offer gender affirming cottage cheese implants?

Expect very few troons are dysphoric about cellulite because they’re basing their fetish on porn women, not real women (except when skin walking mother/sister/ex gf).

Would be enjoyable to see it regularly added to their list of complaints though.

 

[Precocious Halfwit]

Well, today a new post popped up…

“They seem to be nice but…”
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uWu wat dis? Ten major surgeries and going septic?

Whatever happened to “trust the gut” lol!

"I want to get phallo so badly..."

Step right up, my love, it looks like you just might get your wish - most phallo looks like it's done pretty badly.

 

[klarine]

TWELVE out of NINETEEN victims had some kind of stricture or fistula. And 7 say no MAJOR complications and not “NO complications”.

I wouldnt even trust those saying they don't have complications, troons and pooners lie through their teeth about surgery results because they want to encourage others to do the same shit.

 

[grenouille crétine]

Girls

teenagers

tweens

Pour one out for the poor D cups out there, bros!

Interesting.

I almost put this one behind a spoiler too but no one else is bothering so I won’t either. I also don’t actually want to derail the thread with slapfights, but what a weird thing to say.

I wouldnt even trust those saying they don't have complications, troons and pooners lie through their teeth about surgery results because they want to encourage others to do the same shit.

Anyway yeah, that’s why detransitioners are evil grifting liars, even those who still believe but are having complications too publicly. They do it to convince themselves as well as to maintain standing within the cult. It’s sad but so pathetic—you don’t get another body.

 

[RIPRhongoBongo]

Holy shit, they literally threw him in an uncovered plywood box on a dinky little stand pushed around by a balding gigahon in a yellow sundress (FOR A FUNERAL???) and let drug addicts draw all over him. Maybe it’s just because I’ve never actually seen a wooden, drawable coffin like that before and so it’s a double-whammy, but if I were going to write/draw a message directly over the dead body of someone I ostensibly cared about pretty sure I could do better than “thanks for the tits”. Death may have a been a blessing for this man. Disrespected by his own people to the last.

It was a disaster stream from start to finish. That Porta-John was the highlight

 

[soup peddler]

From observations, it's seeming more and more that pooners get a brief golden age on Testosterone before the hormonal imbalances fuck them up completely. Considering they all want to be hairless twinks, it's bizarre that they get on these drugs whose major functions are to make them hirsute and obese....

 

[Dr. Eldon Tyrell]

Does anyone know how doctors actually determine the dosages for mtfs?

They do as little as possible, as to not cause the troon blood-clots, which means they normally aim for the lower side of "female typical" blood levels. I sperged about this from the devil's advocate side numerous times by now: in the 70s and 80s they would chug those pill bottles at the tail end of puberty (or somehow get injections), without any oversight, until they had hot flashes and near heart attacks (anecdotes lifted from actual biographies) As you correctly observed, the guys taking this at 30 for their first time get nothing, except for chubbiness, fatigue and blood clots. So, you can tell the agps or their doctors are not doing it right or else 41% wouldn't stay at 41%. If you really wanna know how it's done, unironically, ask ladyboys or Brazilian trannies. Those are to blame for the wave of transkids in the west because they are the living precedent for all this, giving doctors and their tranny prospects these brainworms about what's possible, when you just start young enough, in the first place. The truth is, in these hellholes, the ugly ones don't make it in the streets (they "desist"), the ones who get sick die in a ditch. So people, esp. hons, gobble up these "success" stories on the effectiveness of hrt but they forget that they, infact, only ever "transed the kids" over there and those kids popped pills until they collapsed and those who don't wake up with child bearing hips are never seen again. Those turd worldies found everything out the hard way and have an intact "culture" around this stuff with handed down "street" knowledge - You only see the freaks on truly because the "hot" ones are uninteresting and know better than to play jungle ape for E!. But strangely "our" doctors never did studies on their detrans rates, life outcomes, health complications and hormone levels before "importing" it.

So, they actually just look at the female average for a given bmi or age. There is no closed loop, like checking for lining thickness, as you mentioned. And it's also unscientific, as if going after a chart with data on healthy females has anything to do with injecting men with synthetic estrogen. I mean, I guess there is some feedback, when the troons are young enough, because their bodies begin doing these half assed "girl" tanner stages but then again, only happens for those for which it happens - not the hons.

 

[EvaBraunsGhost]

From observations, it's seeming more and more that pooners seem to get a brief golden age on Testosterone before the hormonal imbalances fuck them up completely.

I'd actually believe this to be true, because

Spoiler: Drug PL sperg

I stupidly got onto H in my early 20's, and several of the guys insisted that for a few years, girls on H look the best they ever have or ever will - obviously doesn't last
Thought "yea that's got to be bollocks", but looking back through old photos, it's absolutely true, so I can see how T would feasibly be similar
Happily I'm clean now

Something I've been puzzling for some time, but seriously puzzling since that ditch posted yesterday, is this:

Are these "just like a 'cis' vagina/penis! Even gynaecologists can't tell the difference!" trooners and pooners really that delusional? I mean the possibility is there, (because you've got to be pretty delusional to truly believe that taking horse-piss pills and having your cock/colon flayed and turned inside out turns you into a woman, or T and rolled-up armskin stitched to your crotch makes you a man), or is it pure 100% copium along with a little sunk-cost fallacy as well?

Because yea, admittedly vaginas and penises come in all shapes, sizes and colours, but for all their idiosyncrasies they do all follow basic anatomical norms, and nobody with even vaguely ok eyesight and a clear unbiased mind can look at these Lovecraftian horror mockeries and think they look even vaguely like the real thing?

So what do we say, fellow Kiwis? Delusion, cope or some kind of bizarre split (much like their ditches, now I think about it)