Bad Stuff General - Stuff that you should never go cheap on.

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Here's what I've got:

Homesteading:
Weed killer.
Oil filters / oil for cars - just don't.
Work gloves
Wood - 1, Never let the hardware stores pick your 2x4s. They'll give you the most warped, knotted boards they have.
Silicone - The cheap stuff has half the life of the new stuff.
Grass Seed

Furnishing
Cabinets - Never buy those kits that are assemble and hang. Shitty as hell. (shelves are a different story)
Microwaves
Desks - Used on craigslist is 10x better than cheap-o new stuff

Tools
Wirecutters / nippers
Crobars 1
Drilling bits & spade bits: 1,
Knifes: 1, 2, 3

Foodstuffs
Sauerkraut: 1,
Coffee: 1,

Others
Generators - Get anything with a Honda, or alternatively Westinghouse engine.
Umbrellas: 1,
Flashlights*: 1,
Batteries: 1,
Mattresses: 1,
Power cables
Jeans

*: Disputed whether or not a cheap version is acceptable.
 
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Don't cheap out on shoes/boots.

I'm talking about the Walmart/Pay less/similar trash form the CCP that's glued together plastic, foam, scrap leather pieces and fabric. They fall apart after about a year of use, STINK horribly because all that synthetic shit in them sucks up water and makes a lovely home for bacterial a d brakes down so the shoes/boots gets less and less comfortable the moment you start wearing them.

Sadly, quality footwear has gotten retardedly expensive these days. I've seen old shoe catalogues and a $10 pair of boots or shoes on the 1960s/1970s bears the piss out of a $75 pair of Walmart specials today.

For work boots / stomping around boots look for stuff Made in / Assembled in the USA. Ex. Double H or Thorogood. Red Wing still makes some work stuff on the USA but be careful a LOT of there stuff is Chinese now. Oddly enough Irish Setter is all Vietnamese made but it's in a factory Red Wing owns.

Cheap footwear makes your feet hurt and squishy tennis shoes/dunks/sneakers are actually bad for your feet.


NEVER cram you feet into something that feels bad or too tight as that'll fuck your feet up and give you bunions, corns, and calluses.

I'll make another version of this in the Bifl post of stuff to buy.
 
The other day I bought an umbrella and it was a bad idea to buy the cheapest one, it looked ok but it's flimsy as fuck and it already broke, so don't be a fag like me please

also a lot of modern clothing and shoewear is shit quality even if not cheap so it's good to buy older stuff second hand for stuff like sweaters, denim, coats, etc.
 
I'm not some grizzled woodsman or anything but I learned very quickly while I was trying out knifemaking/leatherworking as a hobby and testing my products out in the woods that you really want a good carbon steel camping knife. I love classy, simple bowies but it doesn't have to be some big intimidating survival knife. You can make do with a really good 4 to 5 inch camping knife so long as it is decent carbon steel. don't bet your life on stainless steel, or if a stainless knife is all you have, don't do things like baton wood or pry with it. Not all stainless steel knives will immediately break if you do those things, but most of them will, or they will become significantly damaged.

Spend a little extra and get yourself a really good carbon steel camping knife from a good company that fits your hand well and has a moderate amount of blade thickness. Then take really good care of it. It will last your lifetime.
 
The other day I bought an umbrella and it was a bad idea to buy the cheapest one, it looked ok but it's flimsy as fuck and it already broke, so don't be a fag like me please
back when I was a wee lad I remember I was in the store and I broke a 5$ umbrella, the dude who was working there just rolled his eyes and told me to put it back.
Cheap umbrellas are a brand new sort of flimsy.
 
I'm not some grizzled woodsman or anything but I learned very quickly while I was trying out knifemaking/leatherworking as a hobby and testing my products out in the woods that you really want a good carbon steel camping knife. I love classy, simple bowies but it doesn't have to be some big intimidating survival knife. You can make do with a really good 4 to 5 inch camping knife so long as it is decent carbon steel. don't bet your life on stainless steel, or if a stainless knife is all you have, don't do things like baton wood or pry with it. Not all stainless steel knives will immediately break if you do those things, but most of them will, or they will become significantly damaged.

Spend a little extra and get yourself a really good carbon steel camping knife from a good company that fits your hand well and has a moderate amount of blade thickness. Then take really good care of it. It will last your lifetime.
To add, if you absolutely must have a stainless knife, get something like a Mora. They're cheap but well made. I normally have a carbon steel ESEE on my belt and a stainless Mora in the backpack. The Mora ends up used a lot for breaking up game and food prep.
 
Flashlights
If we're talking general flashlights for at-home use, the LED revolution of the last 15 years has brought costs down while durability, longevity, and battery life has shot way up. You can get perfectly acceptable lights for $5-$10. I own a bunch of ~$3 1xAA lights that are Just Fine for most general uses, that I just give out to friends and family. Even if you want something with a bit of throw, C8-style lights are less than ten bucks. The market is almost oversaturated with perfectly fine lights.

I've owned a lot of flashlights over the years, everything from $0.75 AliExpress specials to lights that cost hundreds of dollars. I've owned multiple Muyshondt lights, with lights from bleeding edge Andruil to single-mode lights, my nightstand light is a goddamn HDS Rotary (which is an extremely good light that's hard to beat and will never ever die, if you're comfortable dropping that much on a flashlight) and I've owned $30 lights with as good fit and finish as lights that cost $300. Gone are the days where you had to get a 6P or one of those massive HID lights for something worth a damn. This is of course ignoring the massive variety of lights suited for different roles and how much you can cheap out with each different type of light and get away with it. They're not making incans anymore, you have to go out of your way to find crappy button cell lights or lights with the showerhead LED arrangement, or explicitly scrape the bottom of the barrel to find anything that's "bad."
 
To add, if you absolutely must have a stainless knife, get something like a Mora. They're cheap but well made. I normally have a carbon steel ESEE on my belt and a stainless Mora in the backpack. The Mora ends up used a lot for breaking up game and food prep.
Moras are fantastic and cheap as chips - whether the stainless or carbon steel variety, they're great beater knives. I've got a ton of them, but the one I use and abuse the most is a stainless Craftline (their budget line with thinner blades) I keep in my saltwater fishing kit - it's the world's finest bait knife.
 
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You can absolutely get away with cheap flashlights. My EDC flashlights are not "cheap", a thrunite T10S and jetbeam E3S (I prefer stainless to aluminum for durability for my EDC/flashlights), but I have had good experiences cheap flashlights that I use in the shop or have around the house or in my cars, those honestly get more use than my EDC lights. For example I have a bunch of cheap amazon elastic headlamps that I use when working on things and they've lasted for years and are pretty good other than the fact that one of their multi-modes is a strobe for some reason. It's weird because I've had very few cheap LED flashlight failures (usually it's just soft touch plastic getting sticky) but my LED household bulbs experience has been total ass.
 
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For example I have a bunch of cheap amazon elastic headlamps that I use when working on things and they've lasted for years and are pretty good other than the fact that one of their multi-modes is a strobe for some reason. It's weird because I've had very few cheap LED flashlight failures (usually it's just soft touch plastic getting sticky) but my LED household bulbs experience has been total ass.
One thing I've always looked for in headlamps is a red-light function, mostly because my primary use case is for camping and nothing quite sucks like blowing out your night vision with 1000+ lumens of white light at 3AM when you're just looking for your latrine.
 
especially for rechargeables.
There are 18650 testers you can get on Bezos mart and Musk-bay for 25-35$ that are really good at telling you what the actual capacity of your 18650s are

For the folks running along at home, it is physically impossible for a LiPo or Li-ion 18650 to have a capacity over 3600 mah. just not enough space for the juice. If there's anyone advertising more, it's not an 18650, or they're lying to you.
 
While you're on the topic, don't go cheap on batteries.
This goes 100000% if you're doing anything solar-related and getting high-capacity LiFePos. There'a a whole lot of considerations that aren't immediately obvious if you're not a turbo autist, from temperature cutoffs to cell quality to BMS capability to burst discharge rate. At best case a failing bad battery kills itself or your equipment, at worst it turns into a massive and ridiculously hard to control fire.

If you ever DO need to buy a big LiFePo for some reason, go hit up diysolarforum. The autists there know their shit and know which currently-available batteries are safe and worth investing in.
 
One thing I'm really curious about is food. what food has a cheap version that is absolutely unacceptable to you? for me, it's lunch / deli meat. never get the cheapest deli meat.
anyone else have thoughts?
Never buy cheap or pre ground coffee. If you're going to have a caffeine habbit at least enjoy it. It's disrespectful to offer someone a cup of folgers, I taste that shit and ask for water.

Wood - Never let the hardware stores pick your 2x4s. They'll give you the most warped, knotted boards they have.
I can attest this is true. I worked as a loader for a hardware store a while back and if a boomer refused to get out of his car I'd give him the worst boards out of spite. Don't be a lazy and entitled boomer, pick out your own boards or you'll end up returning half your order.
 
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