Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[WhiteNight]

While I agree it shouldnt have been banned (though I might be missing some details), 1 incident 11 years ago on a website that has tens of millions of repositories is not that bad and I don't think it woud happen again. These days they only ever delete anything after a valid DMCA, which they treat very restrictively (if you're not a copyright holder or if there's anything wrong with the request they're not going to do anything).

Well this is the first example I thought of. Another example is that in 2015, a developer was ordered to remove the words "retard"/"retarded" from a repo:

https://github.com/nixxquality/WebMConverter/commit/c1ac0baac06fa7175677a4a1bf65860a84708d67

I have seen other examples over the years I could probably search for.

Also, while it's not censorship as such, as an indicator of their culture, GitHub hired the insane troon "Coraline Ada Ehmke" in 2016 to run their community team. It was a year before Coraline went crazy and left GitHub and started denouncing it.
Coraline's Farms thread: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/coraline-ada-ehmke-corey-dale-ehmke.31003/

In 2014, GitHub got rid of their "United Meritocracy of GitHub" rug in their lobby because feminists hate the idea of meritocracy.

These examples are a while ago, and perhaps GitHub has changed since these incidents. However, the trend in corporate America has been toward more DEI, not less.

I don't think there's any reason to believe that's true, they're not "pushing" anything. You can add it if you want. Nothing requires you to. There are millions of projects without one.

You're not required to have a code of conduct certainly. I remember seeing messages in new repos encouraging adding one (but maybe that is no longer the case). GitHub's documentation, however, recommends adding a code to "signal a welcoming and inclusive project" with "healthy contributions":

https://docs.github.com/en/communities/setting-up-your-project-for-healthy-contributions/adding-a-code-of-conduct-to-your-project

Their first link takes you to https://opensource.guide/code-of-conduct/ whose first suggested CoC is the Contributor Covenant, written by the above-mentioned insane troon Coraline. So, GitHub is not quite shoving the CoC in your face, but they do seem to be ushering you towards troon CoC.

 

[Pig Cannon]

GitHub is for programmers. Therefore it is left wing and governed by transvestites. why are we even debating this in 2024?

Microsoft is corporate enough to contain the gay flag to the month of June instead of all 365 days, but that doesn't change that >20% of their admins are probably autistic white men in skirts.

 

[Kola]

Also, while it's not censorship as such, as an indicator of their culture, GitHub hired the insane troon "Coraline Ada Ehmke" in 2016 to run their community team. It was a year before Coraline went crazy and left GitHub and started denouncing it.

They fired Corey Ehmke and as you noticed he was quite bitter about it. He was hated there.

I remember seeing messages in new repos encouraging adding one (but maybe that is no longer the case). GitHub's documentation, however, recommends adding a code to "signal a welcoming and inclusive project" with "healthy contributions":
https://docs.github.com/en/communit...ions/adding-a-code-of-conduct-to-your-project

This is a super minor thing and weird to get hung up on.

In general while you can surely find some examples of questionable behavior, it looks that overall Github cares very little about these things. All sorts of chuds host their repos there, and they seem very apolitical in most cases. When you have thousands of employees, sure, sometimes a retard will abuse his support powers, or put something in a doc somewhere. I don't remember any recent incidents where they outright refused service to anyone because of any political beliefs on or off the platform. If anything, Microsoft acquisition made them even more neutral in this regard.

 

[boards of canada]

NetworkManager 1.50 Released - Now Ensures Offensive Terms Don't Appear In Settings​

“Master” and “slave” are apparently offensive words.

Every single word to ever be spoken or written by mankind can be placed in an "offensive" context. Are we going to ban language itself now? I'm struggling to comprehend how anyone sat down, thought this through and saw no problem with it.

 

[306h4Ge5eJUJ]

These examples are a while ago, and perhaps GitHub has changed since these incidents.

One big change, which I believe is very relevant to this issue, is that Github was acquired by Microsoft in 2018. Before that, it was your typical silicon valley startup, and as far as I know, all instances of the usual faggotry are from that era.

 

[DavidS877]

PAM predates SSH

The information I see says ssh was 1995 and PAM 1997. Ok, fine, first PAM changelog entry was Sat Feb 17 17:30:24 EST 1996. SSH still wins.
SSH initially was commercial after the first couple free releases.
Now, OpenSSH didn't come along until post-PAM, looks like 1999.

 

[0gh]

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FOSS has been saved

I can't trust any right winger programmers and I believe all their projects will fail. Not because right wingers can't code, but because people associating themselves with some political movement simply can't code, they're too busy doing political shit.

I don't want it to be this way, I hate that it's this way, but every single person I've seen who advertises his politics in some way is fucking retarded. Since he's fresh in mind from another post, while not a programmer, I mean someone like Peterson. When he was this college psychologist everyone thought he was the bees knees, and he was! It's not like the shit he said then is any invalid now, but when he started associating with politics he became worse and worse. Is it good for a cow? Sure, but for open source I'd love to see more actual projects with actual work. I'm tired of making my workflow around or patching shit that'll die in a year because of internal drama

I don't know if these people are as political as I'm hearing, I don't care enough to look into it, but seeing issues from someone named antiwokesoldier doesn't bode well if those are the people they're attracting.

 

[skunt]

seeing issues from someone named antiwokesoldier doesn't bode well if those are the people they're attracting.

To me, it looks like some pretty obvious concern trolling. Especially the first issue.

Besides that, the account has been banned from github (https://github.com/AntiWokeSoldier). You can tell it's a ban rather than a deletion as the issues have been hard-deleted from the redot issue tracker. If an account is deleted by the user, the issues/comments remain but the username is changed to "ghost".

 

[Colon capital V]

Since it seems topical for this thread and the Godot fiasco, I figured I'd post about this tweet I saw.

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/r9e17

Presumably the reason this is "textureless" is so that modders "can't" mod or edit it out of their game, which this seems to be what SandWichDev is working on.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1582650/Caravan_SandWitch/

I'm gonna need a scale of 1 to 10 on how retarded this person is for thinking modders can't remove a fagflag in their fag game.
Also lol

 

[anustart76]

NetworkManager 1.50 Released - Now Ensures Offensive Terms Don't Appear In Settings​

Much controversy ensued

“Master” and “slave” are apparently offensive words.

https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/software/desktop-linux/1495582-networkmanager-1-50-released-now-ensures-offensive-terms-don-t-appear-in-settings

Seems like at least the forum comments on Phoronix are based.

 

[tintiddy]

Since it seems topical for this thread and the Godot fiasco, I figured I'd post about this tweet I saw.

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https://ghostarchive.org/archive/r9e17

Presumably the reason this is "textureless" is so that modders "can't" mod or edit it out of their game, which this seems to be what SandWichDev is working on.
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1582650/Caravan_SandWitch/

I'm gonna need a scale of 1 to 10 on how retarded this person is for thinking modders can't remove a fagflag in their fag game.
Also lol
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"Get this, we store the data in a MESH instead of a TEXTURE" ohnononono Chudbros our repsonse??? I can't open a mesh in Windows Photos!

 

[Kola]

To me, it looks like some pretty obvious concern trolling. Especially the first issue.

Besides that, the account has been banned from github (https://github.com/AntiWokeSoldier). You can tell it's a ban rather than a deletion as the issues have been hard-deleted from the redot issue tracker. If an account is deleted by the user, the issues/comments remain but the username is changed to "ghost".

That wasn't concern trolling, he was posting scat porn.

 

[Premium Dog Food]

Since it seems topical for this thread and the Godot fiasco, I figured I'd post about this tweet I saw.

View attachment 6498076

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/r9e17

Presumably the reason this is "textureless" is so that modders "can't" mod or edit it out of their game, which this seems to be what SandWichDev is working on.
View attachment 6498085

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1582650/Caravan_SandWitch/

I'm gonna need a scale of 1 to 10 on how retarded this person is for thinking modders can't remove a fagflag in their fag game.
Also lol
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Bait to generate attention / sales.
Game is in UE5, very possible to swap the mesh to something else. Developer is waiting for someone to do it so they can cry about muh bigots.
The game itself looks pozzed as fuck too, just by the steam description alone.

Edit:
I don't think anyone would even bother to mod the game with these numbers. lmao

 

[Homocull]

Bait to generate attention / sales.

He's lucky 99% of people don't know how computers work
UE4/5 lets you mount external pak files to replace assets, e.g. Tekken 8. It would be funny if the flag wasn't even in the fucking game though

 

[Coolio55]

He's lucky 99% of people don't know how computers work
UE4/5 lets you mount external pak files to replace assets, e.g. Tekken 8. It would be funny if the flag wasn't even in the fucking game though

No, you have to be the developer of a game to add in models.
I was pretty touched when a Zelda BOTW developer on youtube modded in Shrek.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Phoronix: GNOME Foundation Announces Cost Cutting Measures Due To Budget Woes (archive)

https://foundation.gnome.org/2024/10/07/update-from-the-board-2024-10/ (archive)

Regrettably, we have had to reduce our staff. Caroline Henriksen (Creative Director) and Melissa Wu (Director of Community Development) are no longer members of the GNOME Foundation staff team. We sincerely thank Caroline and Melissa for their significant contributions over the past years and wish them the best in their future endeavors.

Unless additional funds are secured, there will be significant reductions on community, board and staff travel to events. We’ll be reassessing which events are most critical for staff attendance.

Executive Director Recruitment: We are actively searching for a new Executive Director. This process is unaffected by the current budget constraints as we are exploring different ways to fund the role.

 

[Kola]

Double funny because they were adamantly running damage control due to the rumors as recently as 5 months ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1cgoual/everything_about_the_gnome_finance_situation

top post:

TLDR: No, the GNOME Foundation isn't going bankrupt. It's quite normal for Non-profits to run a deficit over some time, particularly when they had gotten a big wave of founding. It's how many open-source non-profit foundation (including KDE which Nicco is a dev of) function.

In fact, I would add that if a non-profit is running a profit (the opposite a deficit) over a long time, that should be a giant red flag. The goal is to spend the money they have and at best only keep a small reserve to keep functioning which is exactly what is happening here.

Lunduke was predicting something like this in April.

 

[Weapons of Mass Tardation]

The information I see says ssh was 1995 and PAM 1997. Ok, fine, first PAM changelog entry was Sat Feb 17 17:30:24 EST 1996. SSH still wins.
SSH initially was commercial after the first couple free releases.
Now, OpenSSH didn't come along until post-PAM, looks like 1999.

You're correct that Linux-PAM started development in 96, but it's a re implementation of RFC 86.0 that Sun published in 95, as Sun built the original PAM and published the RFC. I asked an old timer friend who worked at Sun in the 90s, and it sounds like they were working on the original PAM at least as early as 93 or 94. Regardless, it was really picked up both in SunOS and Linux to help tame all of the various ways beyond standard Unix auth that shit like /bin/login or telnet/rsh, etc. would need to consult.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

KDE bros, is it finally our time?

 

[analrapist]

KDE bros, is it finally our time?

More like Qt sisters.