Military Equipment Sperging Thread - The Tiger II is a better tank than the M1 Abrams edition

[The Grognard]

I think the Hägglunds articulated carriers don't get enough credit. These things are (depending on model) fully amphibious and can cross snow, sand dunes, swamps and even open water (being naturally buoyant and using tracks for propulsion) just as they are. Definitely not meant for direct combat, but can carry a bunch of dudes or a bunch of gear through almost anything.
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Here's a nice little vid of one going through some very nasty mud:

Going for a swim:

It does remind me of a story that my uncle had during his service in the early 90's. While Finland chose bought a few of these, the Sisu developed their own equivalent version that's nicknamed the Nasu. He was the first driver of a column during the first exercises where it was used and he had the unit commander right next to him trying to read the map. As it turns out, they had taken a wrong turn and arrived at the front yard of some poor sod who came out to ask "Has WW3 started or why else would there be a dozen Nasus on my front lawn in the middle of the night?"

The unit commander, instead of admitting he fucked up at first asked our heroic driver to first see if there was a road that was somehow behind the house, which there wasn't. So once he did have to admit it, they all had to turn around on his front lawn, destroying the vegetable garden that he had set up there. As a result, the commander spent the rest of the trip being rather embarassed and the driver bemused.

 

[skjora]

It does remind me of a story that my uncle had during his service in the early 90's. While Finland chose bought a few of these, the Sisu developed their own equivalent version that's nicknamed the Nasu. He was the first driver of a column during the first exercises where it was used and he had the unit commander right next to him trying to read the map. As it turns out, they had taken a wrong turn and arrived at the front yard of some poor sod who came out to ask "Has WW3 started or why else would there be a dozen Nasus on my front lawn in the middle of the night?"

The unit commander, instead of admitting he fucked up at first asked our heroic driver to first see if there was a road that was somehow behind the house, which there wasn't. So once he did have to admit it, they all had to turn around on his front lawn, destroying the vegetable garden that he had set up there. As a result, the commander spent the rest of the trip being rather embarassed and the driver bemused.

Thanks for the story! If that event took place in the 80's-90's, I imagine the property owner wasn't all that miffed, all things considered.
I recall reading a story about the air force around here conducting attack exercises (sans actual weapons deployment) against the apex of this one particular ridge. After a decent bit of training, the local air force base got a call from a civilian lady asking them if they'd mind not blowing the tiles off of her roof? Apparently, she lived in a hard-to-spot cottage in the woods right along their path and got her house damaged from the jet exhaust each time. The air force apologized and sent some dudes over to repair it and all was good.

 

[WelperHelper99]

The Phalanx CWIS is based. Recently got kills in the Red Sea. It's a Vulcan 20mm rotary cannon firing at 4,500 RPM/ 75 rounds per second from a massive drum. It also has a ground variant, the Centurion C-RAM for base defense

Video of a C-RAM going ham on some rockets and shit in Bagdad. This is with HE shells btw, because the Army likes that shit

Fun facts:

It fires sabots instead of HE for the naval variant, specifically for anti ship missile defense. This means high penetration.

It's nicknamed R2-D2 because of the Radar/FLIR setup.

The Block 1A variant carries 1,550 rounds and fires at 4500 RPM. Block 0, the older model, fired at 3000 RPM and held 989 rounds.

 

[Biggest Bubba]

The F100 looks like a dustbuster that is why it is the best plane of all time.

 

[JesusChristDenton]

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The F100 looks like a dustbuster that is why it is the best plane of all time.

For me it looks more like a Kazoo.

 

[Biggest Bubba]

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For me it looks more like a Kazoo.

Also because it features in chevy ads

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

More plane porn from the bestest and fastest boy.

 

[JJLiautaud]

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More plane porn from the bestest and fastest boy.

I will say that the XB-70 is a gorgeous plane:

still looks like the future 60 years later

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

Does anyone remember about 10 years ago someone did an explanation of various Sonar sounds, it was things like This is the sound of a Hull implosion vs the sound of an interior compartment imploding, this is the sound of a schoal of fish vs a fishing net getting dragged through the water, etc.

If you have that video or videos can you share them please.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

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I will say that the XB-70 is a gorgeous plane:
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still looks like the future 60 years later

That looks like a Concord if it was a fledgeling, but yea that looks like the future you can see some elements that where adopted by other designs like the twin tail and the edge geometry of those rear delta wings.

 

[WelperHelper99]

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I will say that the XB-70 is a gorgeous plane:
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still looks like the future 60 years later

Actually have a book on the XB-70. Crazy the amount of engineering that went into it. It pioneered honeycomb panel structures and a lot of manufacturing techniques. It's my favorite Bomber. Go Mach 3, drop nuke, zoom away.

Second favorite goes to the B-36 peacekeeper

Absolute chungus with lots of 20mm turrets. Jet engines AND piston engines, 10 in total. Was the early Cold War nuclear deterrent, carried a massive payload. Huge wingspan, as seen by this picture:

Had to have it's own special hangars it was so big.

 

[ComStar]

That's our* attempt to design a modern plane to replace the MiG-21 back in the 80's. It eventually switched to Rafale-style inlets before the program was first gutted due to financial reasons, and finally killed off with the rest of SFRY in the 1990's.

Too bad really, i would have wanted to see how it turned out, seeing as Dassault estimated we could sell 3-500 globally. It could have been a Gripen-esque thing, but probably less advanced.

*with some help from Dassault

 

[WelperHelper99]

I find the 240 mm howitzer M1 "Black Dragon", still in service with Taiwan, incredibly based

Such power, it's magnificent. It's yeeting 500 pound bombs at the enemy basically

 

[JJLiautaud]

I find the 240 mm howitzer M1 "Black Dragon", still in service with Taiwan, incredibly based
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Such power, it's magnificent. It's yeeting 500 pound bombs at the enemy basically

Speaking of arty Ive always wondered why all the world has converged on ~155mm as the standard caliber for arty?

 

[WelperHelper99]

Speaking of arty 8ve always wondered why all the world has converted on ~155mm as the standard caliber for arty?

One caliber means easier production. You aren't making 5 types of shells. It's logistics. That and you have MLRS for heavy shit. MLRS in US service directly phased out 8 inch guns

 

[The Grognard]

Speaking of arty Ive always wondered why all the world has converted on ~155mm as the standard caliber for arty?

NATO standardization, unwillingness for anyone to move away from it once it became established and the cost of having your own special snowflake caliber is too costly for anyone except the biggest of boys. That said, that's also why the 152 MM is both Russian and Chinese standard, because that was the Warsaw Pact standard and before that, the Russian Imperial standard.

 

[JJLiautaud]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WarCollege/comments/12i5rkg/what_are_the_differences_between_152mm_and_155mm/

Lmao we can blame the french.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

Actually have a book on the XB-70. Crazy the amount of engineering that went into it. It pioneered honeycomb panel structures and a lot of manufacturing techniques. It's my favorite Bomber. Go Mach 3, drop nuke, zoom away.

Second favorite goes to the B-36 peacekeeper
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Absolute chungus with lots of 20mm turrets. Jet engines AND piston engines, 10 in total. Was the early Cold War nuclear deterrent, carried a massive payload. Huge wingspan, as seen by this picture:
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Had to have it's own special hangars it was so big.

My only issue with the B-36 is that they didn't call it the CHROMEDOME.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Speaking of arty Ive always wondered why all the world has converged on ~155mm as the standard caliber for arty?

Weight, mainly. The shell for a 155mm hovers around 100 pounds which is right at the cutoff of "too heavy" for an adult man who is in good shape. Lighter than that and you start to lose effectiveness and heavier than that and your loading crew is going to be gassed after the first dozen or so rounds. That's a big part of the reason why it was standardized.

You see this in the Navy too with quick firing guns prior to the widespread adoption of autoloaders. 155mm is six inches (technically it's a hair over but fuck it) and so quick firing guns were never over six inches in diameter, with most of them being 5 inches or 4.5 inches on the larger end.

 

[TiggerNits]

VTOL is a tremendous waste and serves no genuine purpose in fixed wing operations. It was only useful once (the Falklands) and it only succeeded because Argentinas air force was retarded in every meaningful way so RAF and RN harriers with almost zero useful ordinance and next to nothing in fuel for loiter were able to hold off an entire wing of morons trying to charge them whenever the weather was nice.

The USMC saw this and totally felt validated in trying to continue the battle of Wake Island 40 years after the point, despite the Harrier, as it stands today, being less effective than the A4Ms they replaced at CAS and force projection. The limitations VTOL puts on both weapon and fuel capacity is truly staggering, even USAF TACP boys bitch about harriers in the stack because they only get two runs, max and maybe 20 minutes in station before needing to hit the tanker. They lack the precision of the Apache and Cobra, the capacity of the A10, the speed of the Viper and at the end of the day, it takes 4 harriers to provide the capability one strike eagle brings to a mission.

And I'm saying this as someone who used to fly the damn things for a bit, the Harrier is a funding albatross and an outright gift on the tax payer