Electric vehicles taking Ls - Electric vehicles hate thread

[Lifeguard Hermit]

At some point, EVs will probably be necessary. There's a finite amount of oil in the ground. It will inevitably run out, and it's hard to imagine that biodiesel will ever be produced in large enough quantities to replace it.

Thanks for telling the class that you literally don't understand how a diesel engine functions. You don't need biodiesel. You need any combustible material that will combust Under Pressure to run a diesel. You don't need diesel fuel you can use seed oil you can use literally any type of oil you can use the old engine oil filtered from your last engine change to run your current diesel. Maybe read up on how the oldest internal combustion engine on the planet Works before you talk about how it's going to be made obsolete. Would gas engines possibly be phased out? that's a possibility but diesel is going nowhere. And you'll be annoyed to know how many of those Preppers and whatnot have a secret I C E generator for when the fucking sun doesn't come out for their stupid solar panels.

 

[DumbDude43]

every few years we find a new "largest supply of oil in the world" I personally think its an unlimited resource and we will never run out

oil will eventually become scarce and expensive, but i think even then IC cars running on synthetic fuels will still outperform EVs (unless governments just keep subsidizing EVs like crazy forever)

 

[Devout Muslim]

Maybe read up on how the oldest internal combustion engine on the planet Works before you talk about how it's going to be made obsolete.

The spark-ignition engine was invented before Diesel’s engine, calm down.

 

[The Punished Mitch]

every few years we find a new "largest supply of oil in the world" I personally think its an unlimited resource and we will never run out

Oil and gas are finite resources and we're definitely going to run out relatively soon except at least once a decade we stumble upon another field of it with enough supply to last us 50 years at current consumption levels, absolute clown tier shit.

 

[N Space]

every few years we find a new "largest supply of oil in the world" I personally think its an unlimited resource and we will never run out

What'll happen is that the cost of drilling/extracting oil will rise as supply dwindles and known sources that used to be unprofitable now are profitable. This is already happening in the form of oil shale and fracking.

 

[QE65]

> "To connect your vehicle to the grid please install the DeffoNoSellDataTo3rdParties application from the bloatware store."
> "Your car is not running the latest version of <proprietary awful> operating system, please install the latest version before traveling."
> "Please establish an internet connection before starting your vehicle."
> "Automatic, electrically controlled door locking is in place to secure the vehicle, have a safe journey." — good luck getting out in the event of a crash or car fire.
> "Here is the music taste and call history of the previous owner that is permanently stored in the memory of the UI."
> "Your charge cable is no longer recognized at the new charging station, please purchase the latest compatible charger from the online web store".

The tech bro crossover with the automotive industry was a mistake.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

> "To connect your vehicle to the grid please install the DeffoNoSellDataTo3rdParties application from the bloatware store."
> "Your car is not running the latest version of <proprietary awful> operating system, please install the latest version before traveling."
> "Please establish an internet connection before starting your vehicle."
> "Automatic, electrically controlled door locking is in place to secure the vehicle, have a safe journey." — good luck getting out in the event of a crash or car fire.
> "Here is the music taste and call history of the previous owner that is permanently stored in the memory of the UI."
> "Your charge cable is no longer recognized at the new charging station, please purchase the latest compatible charger from the online web store".

The tech bro crossover with the automotive industry was a mistake.

UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE every single day is annoying as hell. At least once a day I'm getting something that isn't broken, that 'needs' and update (today's being my phone and my headphones which are 3 years old). Doing that with cars now...lol

 

[Flesh Ribbons]

Post videos and articles of EV owners taking L's, trying too hard against conventional cars, EVs catching fire for no fucking reason, and being 'safe' for the environment and passengers.

That first video gives a whole new meaning to Chinese Fire Drill.

 

[Toolbox]

I hope hybrids also die in a fire alongside the niggercattle with it.

The thing is, regular hybrids are actually efficient, they're nearly every bit what EV cultists espouse about BEVs. Hybrids still have the problem of having essentially the same battery but smaller, though it's a lot less of a problem than the absolutely massive pack that a full ev requires. Hate plug in hybrids with a passion though for missing the point. Hybrids shouldn't replace ICEs, but they are an actual upgrade in range, though just like the modern smartphone on wheels gas vehicles, they've sacrificed reparability to meet the ever ridiculously increasing demands of regulatory bodies.

 

[Smar Mijou]

I hope hybrids also die in a fire alongside the niggercattle with it.

Disagree, I was going to write a long winded response but Toolbox below said essentially what I was going to...

The thing is, regular hybrids are actually efficient, they're nearly every bit what EV cultists espouse about BEVs. Hybrids still have the problem of having essentially the same battery but smaller, though it's a lot less of a problem than the absolutely massive pack that a full ev requires. Hate plug in hybrids with a passion though for missing the point. Hybrids shouldn't replace ICEs, but they are an actual upgrade in range, though just like the modern smartphone on wheels gas vehicles, they've sacrificed reparability to meet the ever ridiculously increasing demands of regulatory bodies.

I agree that it's the overbearing regulations that kill the simple and practical hybrids, as well as the heavy weight of the batteries and unnecessary accessories that are seen as "needed" by modern drivers.

It's something to be said that when the "small and efficient" hybrid Honda CR-Z, which was marketed as the spiritual successor to the Honda CRX, weighed nearly 1000lbs more, and got nearly 20MPG  worse than the car it is supposedly superior to, with 30 years of advancement in technology to boot.

 

[WULULULULU]

The thing is, regular hybrids are actually efficient, they're nearly every bit what EV cultists espouse about BEVs. Hybrids still have the problem of having essentially the same battery but smaller, though it's a lot less of a problem than the absolutely massive pack that a full ev requires. Hate plug in hybrids with a passion though for missing the point. Hybrids shouldn't replace ICEs, but they are an actual upgrade in range, though just like the modern smartphone on wheels gas vehicles, they've sacrificed reparability to meet the ever ridiculously increasing demands of regulatory bodies.

I get where you are coming from but I am a tried and true guy. Gas works, and it sticks to gas. Fuck electricity, I don't want a niggercattle computer to help me in my driving.

 

[Toolbox]

Fuck electricity, I don't want a niggercattle computer to help me in my driving.

The niggercattle computer is already inside the house. You can't find a new car today in the western market that doesn't have a ton of shit between your input and the ground. It doesn't matter if it's an EV, a hybrid, a hydrogen car, or an ICE, all of them are being ruined by regulatory creep, if they weren't shit in the first place like hydrogen and a good majority of BEVs. Unless governments get some serious pushback for pushing this, not that the companies are blameless either, it will keep getting worse.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Oil and gas are finite resources and we're definitely going to run out relatively soon except at least once a decade we stumble upon another field of it with enough supply to last us 50 years at current consumption levels, absolute clown tier shit.

There are questions about this, given the unfathomable abundance of hydrocarbons everywhere we look in the universe. But taking it as a given that oil will run out, there's still the reality that methane (along with ethane and possibly propane) is naturally abundant everywhere on the planet and is formed constantly deep underground. There are processes for turning methane into long-chain hydrocarbons. In a rational world, people would be investing heavily in improving those processes, rather than chasing magic fairy dust and unicorn farts.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Thanks for telling the class that you literally don't understand how a diesel engine functions. You don't need biodiesel. You need any combustible material that will combust Under Pressure to run a diesel. You don't need diesel fuel you can use seed oil you can use literally any type of oil you can use the old engine oil filtered from your last engine change to run your current diesel. Maybe read up on how the oldest internal combustion engine on the planet Works before you talk about how it's going to be made obsolete. Would gas engines possibly be phased out? that's a possibility but diesel is going nowhere. And you'll be annoyed to know how many of those Preppers and whatnot have a secret I C E generator for when the fucking sun doesn't come out for their stupid solar panels.

Saw a video on some guy who's running the same car for like 80 years and it can literally run on alcohol or perfume or some wacky expensive commodity for the sake of it.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Kek. Eurochads told American and Canadian chumps to fuck off.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/juicebox-abruptly-shuts-down-charging-business-abandons-ev-customers

I love the company's literally named Enel. Best troll.

 

[DavidS877]

Kek. Eurochads told American and Canadian chumps to fuck off.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/juicebox-abruptly-shuts-down-charging-business-abandons-ev-customers

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I love the company's literally named Enel. Best troll.
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This is also a great example of why you don't buy shit that uses "teh cloud".
Want to set a schedule, gone.
Want to make any changes to the device, gone.
What changes might you want to make. Say you have a charger that can use 64A(80A breaker) and you had to set it to 48A(60A breaker), most products have this setting using switches inside. Not Juicebox, they did it with an app through the Internet, to the Enel servers. Sure it will keep the setting for now, but what if it suddenly has a memory glitch, can't reload settings from those dead servers. Either it goes to a 'safe' setting of like 16A, or goes to the default of 64A. Either are bad.

Don't buy cloud-shit folks.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Kek. Eurochads told American and Canadian chumps to fuck off.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/juicebox-abruptly-shuts-down-charging-business-abandons-ev-customers

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Fisker also REALLY decided to fuck off after declaring bankruptcy, and left their HQ in complete shambles. / Archive

 

[Toolbox]

Fisker also REALLY decided to fuck off after declaring bankruptcy, and left their HQ in complete shambles. / Archive

This includes leaving behind their clay models of potential future vehicles,


and just generally trashing the place while also abandoning a labcar, which is a wiring/electronics testbed.

It's that metal frame with seats.

Henrik has no chance starting on his own in this industry ever again.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I don't like current EVs because of the maintenance costs, how overly computerized Current Year cars are with touchscreen and "app" crap, and of course the costs and fire hazard with having giant lithium ion batteries on board. If you think having a "spicy pillow" is bad for a "smartphone", can you imagine how bad such could be with an EV?

 

[Staffy]

I don't like current EVs because of the maintenance costs, how overly computerized Current Year cars are with touchscreen and "app" crap, and of course the costs and fire hazard with having giant lithium ion batteries on board. If you think having a "spicy pillow" is bad for a "smartphone", can you imagine how bad such could be with an EV?

What are the odds of an EV not letting you drive and shutting down while you're on the road because you said a word that's a no-no according to TPTB while you're inside the car?