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[Fapcop]

I love how most of this despair is completely self inflicted. If they had just accepted reality and dealt with trump in a non histrionic pragmatic way they’d be fine. Half the shit these people cry about is literally made up.

Facts.

Honestly, a good reason why so many are going apeshit for Trump, is because there is a very widespread, factual belief that he was done dirty.

If they hadn’t acted like retards, trying to throw him in jail, preventing him running etc, you’d likely have seen a different GOP candidate.

They’re entirely prisoners of their own retardation.

 

[GunCar Gary]

Couple things here, I don't think you understand what the term neocon means. That's fine, it's okay to not know what these dumb words people throw around all the time. The paleo(not sure of a better term, isolationist might fit)/neocon split in the republican happened during the vietnam war, that's it.

fair enough. i'm not super familiar with the republican party and the term seems more nuanced than how i was using it, which is basically "GOP old guard"

i'll keep that in mind for future shitposting

 

[Rimanah]

the real big hurdle to women voting republican is the neocon stance on abortion. as long as states like South Dakota are around that have completely banned elective abortions and have no exceptions for even rape or incest, that is going to turn women away big time

While I get this, I think it’s a bit illogical to hold how a state ultimately votes, either via direct democracy or through its legislators, against the national wing of the GOP.
The national Republican Party has firmly stated that they want this to be a state issue (which I the correct legal position, this is firmly something belonging to the states per the 10th amendment.)

I also don’t understand why so many people who don’t live in a state get upset with how that state chooses to run itself. Like a woman in Texas or Pennsylvania or whatever is really going to vote for Kamala over Trump because the people of South Dakota and Oklahoma decided they don’t want abortion? That makes no sense. It affects you as much as something done in Romania, and is something Trump has about as much control over, so why not make voting choices based off Romanian politics at that point?

Now to be clear, I understand why someone in South Dakota would have issues with this. But a lot of this seems like people upset that federalism is working as intended, and some states are voting the wrong way.

 

[Sammich]

lol, i know this guy is mostly just shitpoasting, but his "the joy is gone" posts always makes me laugh.

 

[Jacques1194]

In regards to abortion, don't black and hispanic women have higher rates of abortions compared to white women? What if white women are playing 4d chess and saving the republic by being pro abortion so that there's less dem voters being born? I herd somewhere that if abortion was fully banned back then republicans would of lost, and America would of been under a one party state rule before 2020 maybe even before 2010.

 

[The Ugly One]

this is what every poll shows the vast majority of americans want.

State governments don't care about national polls.

 

[spiritofamermaid]

West Virginia is trying to pass a law that would make WV not recognize the results of any presidential election if:

1. Dems win after their opponent got assassinated (but not vice versa)
or
2. "if the Attorney General of West Virginia or the Secretary of State of West Virginia, in consultation with the West Virginia Legislature, determine that election fraud in any state was a major reason that resulted in a candidate for President obtaining a majority in the Electoral College." Of note that definition of fraud here is extremely broad, and current litigation campaigns against Trump would be enough to trigger it
or
3. "if the Attorney General of West Virginia or the Secretary of State of West Virginia, in consultation with the West Virginia Legislature, determine that election interference by the federal government, foreign governments, or other state governments was a key factor that resulted in a candidate for President obtaining a majority in the Electoral College."

https://www.wvlegislature.gov/Bill_Status/bills_text.cfm?billdoc=hcr203%20intr.htm&yr=2024&sesstype=2X&i=203&houseorig=h&billtype=cr

This is actually fascinating in my opinion. I don't know the ins and outs of election law when it comes to federal, but is the winner decided by all states sending in their electoral votes AND one person getting 270, or just getting 270?

Oh wait, it says results, not about whether they send their own electoral votes to DC or not. Still interesting.

 

[Necrosan]

I enjoy that every time I come in this thread to see the political news of the past few days, nobody is ever talking about politics. Instead people argue about Captain Planet, or shoving marbles up your ass, or white women fucking dogs, or how many marbles Captain Planet could shove up a white woman's ass.

We aren't called the autistic thunderdrome for nothing. The race is pretty much finished unless someone like Diddy has anything to say about it, in the meantime I leave you some clips.

Spoiler: Video

(X) "Thou shall always blame Trump" -Obama 3:15

(X) I have no idea what caused this gwen.exe to glitch like this.

Spoiler: Video

Still holding out for a Halloween surprise.

 

[Betonhaus]

At this point I just want to know if Trump wins New York or not.

 

[The Saltening]

At this point I just want to know if Trump wins New York or not.

Trump wins every state. Landslide event. Dems btfo. America #1. China explodes. Ukraine and Russia fuck and make up. Israel gets obliterated by God himself. Muslims all convert to Christianity and stay in sand land. Niggers move back to Africa. Latinos go back to Mexico. Trannies all commit neck rope.

Trust.

 

[Dimension Sniper]

You are talking about more the right to life grifter faggots that can't stop seething over actually having to do more than proclaim roe v wade is bad and attend lila rose's big fancy galas. They are furious Trump took away their easy comfy 6 figure careers, and gave them what they CLAIMED they wanted.

These people are actually the reason I typically describe myself as anti-abortion rather than pro-life. I’m firmly of the opinion that terminating the life of a child because the child is inconvenient is barbaric, but the vocal Pro-Life movement absolutely does more harm than good and makes pro-abortion women double down even harder.

I don't think there is a single woman whos type is a basement dwelling incel. They're not fucking niggers, they're just not fucking you.

I actually managed to escape the cycle of endless nigger fucking by settling down with a nice white man at a relatively young age. You can too, I believe in you!

 

[mlanguishi]

These people are actually the reason I typically describe myself as anti-abortion rather than pro-life. I’m firmly of the opinion that terminating the life of a child because the child is inconvenient is barbaric, but the vocal Pro-Life movement absolutely does more harm than good and makes pro-abortion women double down even harder.

I used to be kind of whatever on abortion. It's still not a big deal to me, but I really think using it as an alternative to birth control is insane. If the right would go after that only and say anything really needed or medical is ok, that would be better. The rape thing is a tough one though, because nobody wins for sure. Still, they crow about the medical/rape part, but it's really just to not have an unwanted kid nearly all the time.

 

[MeltyTW]

In regards to abortion, don't black and hispanic women have higher rates of abortions compared to white women? What if white women are playing 4d chess and saving the republic by being pro abortion so that there's less dem voters being born? I herd somewhere that if abortion was fully banned back then republicans would of lost, and America would of been under a one party state rule before 2020 maybe even before 2010.

Yeah this is why the pro life movement is retarded they're threatening to tank the vote if we don't flood America with yet more violent low in criminal rapists who will then rape white girls and leave them forced to carry another bastard child rapist.

Being pro life means being pro non white rapist, but oh here's a story about some whote hag who aborted a child without her husband knowing or something

 

[The Saltening]

I used to be kind of whatever on abortion. It's still not a big deal to me, but I really think using it as an alternative to birth control is insane. If the right would go after that only and say anything really needed or medical is ok, that would be better. The rape thing is a tough one though, because nobody wins for sure. Still, they crow about the medical/rape part, but it's really just to not have an unwanted kid nearly all the time.

Rape is a tough one. On one hand I don't want an innocent white girl having to carry and raise a nigger rape baby. On the other hand .....

Yeah I struggle with this a lot. I am generally anti abortion.... But man this a convincing scenario.

I hate rapists and niggers so much

 

[George Lucas]

My blackpill when it came to my fellow women voters was the obvious manipulation the Obama campaign pulled in 2012 with the "War on Women" shit.

2012 was when abortion being "safe, legal, and rare" went right out the window, and so many women voters fell off a fucking cliff down to lunacy. "Access to birth control and rare abortion" quickly became "Give me ALL the abortions and ALL the pills ON DEMAND and FOR FREE! REEEE! You have no say in my lady parts, but damn it, I want my lady parts to be subsidized!"

And the fact that THIS ad didn't creep out enough women back in the day says everything:

This woman is a harlot.

 

[Dimension Sniper]

Rape is a tough one. On one hand I don't want an innocent white girl having to carry and raise a nigger rape baby. On the other hand .....

Yeah I struggle with this a lot. I am generally anti abortion.... But man this a convincing scenario.

I hate rapists and niggers so much

Academically, a baby still doesn’t deserve to die just because of the manner of its conception. But man would I have trouble saying that to the face of a teenage rape victim who’s working through their trauma and just wants everything to go away.

 

[Nuns with guns]

Just watched this video, basically the same discussion we've had during the past few days but in a ready-to-serve, 12-minute slop.

However, it did make me wonder what the official Biden approval ratings are. Here's the current chart:

I think the numbers are high, but maybe 40.9% of the people do approve of him. I doubt so because the DNC desperately wants to memory-hole this administration, but they won't openly admit it. It's also why Kamala can campaign on "A New Way Forward" and not being Joe Biden.

As a reference, these were Trump's disproval ratings when compared to Biden's on this day:

Biden is 0.7% less popular, which is insane when you consider that according to MSM, Trump is the worst and most hated president in history.

Speaking of which, earlier this year, a group of "experts" ranked Biden as the 14th best president. Trump, of course, was last.

But anyways, all of this comes to a point. I don't think Kamala made a blunder. Rather, I believe her internal numbers are so low that she's clinging to that supposed 40.9% of true Biden believers by saying she'll continue his supposed legacy.

I don't think Biden will be viewed as favorable in the future, especially now that he's a lame duck. When the election season passes, many will openly bash the old man and admit that he was a failure. Many more probably believe it already but are too scared to say so. But again, it's crazy that Kamala is so low that she has to tie herself back to Biden now.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

This woman is a harlot.

She molested her sister, too. Openly admitted it in her biography too.

 

[The Saltening]

Academically, a baby still doesn’t deserve to die just because of the manner of its conception. But man would I have trouble saying that to the face of a teenage rape victim who’s working through their trauma and just wants everything to go away.

I look at this from the perspective of what if my sister or cousin or someone I know had this happen.

Abortion is morally wrong on pretty much every level. But I do not think I could hold it against them if they did it in this scenario.

It's such a hard thing to wrestle with since according my faith aborting a nigger rape baby is murder just in the same way as aborting any other baby.

As for the kid. Imagine growing up knowing the only reason you exist is because your dad raped a teenager or someone's wife. You know that kid is going to be so fucked up. Their mom will be fucked up. It's just going to be a mess with a very low chance of it being okay.

 

[Rimanah]

Rape is a tough one. On one hand I don't want an innocent white girl having to carry and raise a nigger rape baby. On the other hand .....

Yeah I struggle with this a lot. I am generally anti abortion.... But man this a convincing scenario.

I hate rapists and niggers so much

I think the right line of rape cases is we should be so tough on crime that it ceases to be an issue. At the very least, that should be the focus of the GOP.

As for proper policy, I think it’s ultimately the toughest issue, but it’s not fair to punish the baby for something they had no choice in. It’s logically equivalent to killing based upon an other immutable characteristic.

But the ultimate issue should be left to the voters in each states to decide. And the pro-life movement needs to focus on education and apologetics (rather than grifting) to get people to understand why they should support the pro-life position on this issue.