Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"

She wants out of the throuple or they want her out. None of them will admit it. Watch, she and Joe are going to ‘grow apart’ as a result of this tour and he’ll ditch his tits to become a normal hetero couple with Lily.
This is likely, but maybe after Rocco is 2-3. Mallory has a practical use right now. Still a lot of free childcare to milk out of nanny Danny. Daycare will be cheaper after potty training. Joe and LaLa will have less sleep and free time without a Danny nanny, but they aren’t the most practical people either, so who knows.

I know it’s optimistic but I only hope Mallory has the sense to dump Joe before he discards her: It might take a restraining order to get rid of her because moving in a new woman and having a baby with her didn’t get the job done. Mallory was moved into said girlfriend’s attic, while Joe and his new family sleep together downstairs, didn't manage to budge her. Even regularly locking her out of the house hasn’t worked, so changing the locks while she is off on her book tour won’t matter.

I’m just curious if Joe will tag along with his beloved husband to Brooklyn next week. If even a trip to Brooklyn isn’t enough to get Joe to spend alone time with Mallory shit is truly dire.
 
Forcing anyone out of this arrangement is not going to be as easy, or cheap, as changing the locks. Joe and Mal are still married, right? Lily is not actually married to either of them? So step one is filing for divorce, and God knows how fucky their finances are. That home is everyone's legal residence, so an eviction would be in the cards as well. To say nothing of what the custody arrangement for Rocco actually is (the NY Mag said that at the very least a lawyer was consulted).
 
To say nothing of what the custody arrangement for Rocco actually is (the NY Mag said that at the very least a lawyer was consulted).
A lawyer had supposedly been been “consulted” but they never got around to actually doing any of that paperwork stuff. By consulted I assumed they emailed a lawyer, possible a friend of a friend. So they did nothing. Danny has all the legal rights to Rocco of a nanny.

But 100% on the other issues. God only knows how their finances work, but not well. Mallory’s got some leverage thanks to being married. Lala is the baby mama and the one he likes.

I’ve wondered if Joe’s four years of being work shy is tied into that. A divorce happens his income will be low. If he dumps Mallory he may have to pay alimony and her health insurance, Lala leaves its child support. The best solution would be to have very low reported income, or even better fuck off back to the UK and never taint American shores again.

I would enjoy seeing Joe go back to work just to have to pay alimony and child support and go from lefty misogynist to total MRA misogynist.
 
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Danny has all the legal rights to Rocco of a nanny.
Probably. But there isn't a lot of precedent for "wife raising the mistress' baby while still married to the FOB and the mistress also lives in house." If anyone wanted to make Joe and Lily's life annoying and difficult, they could get a few miles down the road with that, I think. Not that she would win custody, but she could really make their life hell if she had just a little bit of determination.
 
Probably. But there isn't a lot of precedent for "wife raising the mistress' baby while still married to the FOB and the mistress also lives in house." If anyone wanted to make Joe and Lily's life annoying and difficult, they could get a few miles down the road with that, I think. Not that she would win custody, but she could really make their life hell if she had just a little bit of determination.
You'd need money for a lawyer to do that and by all accounts, Joe's spent all Mallory's assets and then some.

I doubt Women's Hotel brought in a big paycheck (or else they'd have stayed in Brooklyn).
 
This is likely, but maybe after Rocco is 2-3. Mallory has a practical use right now. Still a lot of free childcare to milk out of nanny Danny. Daycare will be cheaper after potty training. Joe and LaLa will have less sleep and free time without a Danny nanny, but they aren’t the most practical people either, so who knows.

I know it’s optimistic but I only hope Mallory has the sense to dump Joe before he discards her: It might take a restraining order to get rid of her because moving in a new woman and having a baby with her didn’t get the job done. Mallory was moved into said girlfriend’s attic, while Joe and his new family sleep together downstairs, didn't manage to budge her. Even regularly locking her out of the house hasn’t worked, so changing the locks while she is off on her book tour won’t matter.

I’m just curious if Joe will tag along with his beloved husband to Brooklyn next week. If even a trip to Brooklyn isn’t enough to get Joe to spend alone time with Mallory shit is truly dire.
They might have popped out another one by then. Stay of execution for Danny the nanny.
If lily can find anyone local to shag, anyway. I'm doubtful those are Joe's genes in poor old Rococco, or that his swimmers are capable whatsoever.
 
The best solution would be to have very low reported income, or even better fuck off back to the UK and never taint American shores again.
The UK and the US have reciprocity on child support, as it happens. Now, getting a child support order enforced can be a massive PITA even when the two parties are in the same country, but if one wants to be a deadbeat father the UK is one of the less "safe" places you could flee to, if only for the fact that the countries use the same language and are relatively close to each other.
 
Probably. But there isn't a lot of precedent for "wife raising the mistress' baby while still married to the FOB and the mistress also lives in house." If anyone wanted to make Joe and Lily's life annoying and difficult, they could get a few miles down the road with that, I think. Not that she would win custody, but she could really make their life hell if she had just a little bit of determination.
She definitely could, but doesn’t have the money for a lawyer to take on that battle. Maybe the modern ACLU would come to bat for pooner cuckhold parents in throuples?

I think she’d need to find a new dominant male to have the courage to make Joe and Lala’s life hell. Definitely many unhinged MTF trannies who would happily hook up with Mallory for such an epic drama. Seems like pottery if she could find someone to fill Joe’s old family destroying bright blue doc martens to help put her new “family” on the bonfire.
 
I think Mallory would be completely passive in a divorce, no matter how huge the humiliation... except for Rocco. If they tried to keep her from seeing him in some capacity, I could see that being the single thing that could prompt her to try for scorched earth with Sir Mr. Joseph.
Idk I think a lot of people are projecting a heap of maternal instincts and love onto Mallory, who isn’t even Rocco’s mother. I don’t know what the reality is but she writes about Rocco the same way she writes about her pet dogs. I’m sure she thinks Rocco is cute and prob enjoy having play dates with him, but I’m not sure she is even close to mama bear territory. I think she’d be far more heartbroken getting dumped by Joe than losing nanny duties. The more time that passes the better the odds of her having some form of authentic attachment to Rocco that isn’t entirely related to Joe.

I could see her pretending to be very invested in Rocco as a way to stay attached to the throuple. Rocco needs a daddy!!!

I do think she’d be passive in a divorce, unless some new toxic tranny was in her life to fan flames and encourage her. She gave up everything for Joe, if he dropped her she’d be even more of an empty shell of a human. I wonder if she’d eventually get “Joe is evil” tattoos on her body.
 
Idk I think a lot of people are projecting a heap of maternal instincts and love onto Mallory, who isn’t even Rocco’s mother. I don’t know what the reality is but she writes about Rocco the same way she writes about her pet dogs. I’m sure she thinks Rocco is cute and prob enjoy having play dates with him, but I’m not sure she is even close to mama bear territory. I think she’d be far more heartbroken getting dumped by Joe than losing nanny duties. The more time that passes the better the odds of her having some form of authentic attachment to Rocco that isn’t entirely related to Joe.

I could see her pretending to be very invested in Rocco as a way to stay attached to the throuple. Rocco needs a daddy!!!

I do think she’d be passive in a divorce, unless some new toxic tranny was in her life to fan flames and encourage her. She gave up everything for Joe, if he dropped her she’d be even more of an empty shell of a human. I wonder if she’d eventually get “Joe is evil” tattoos on her body.
I dunno man.
You get reeeeeeeeeally attached to a baby if you're around it since birth, even when it didnt spring from your drug shrivelled loins.

Then again I am projecting normal person values and emotions again.
I would say on gets reeeeeeally attached to their parents and brothers and sisters who actually haven't wronged you, but she didn't seem very stuck on them and was willing to fling a grenade into that fuck the prize of fuck all too, so.
Perhaps, yeah.

Maybe a baby will hook her by the narcissism, more than a boring old established family of birth did?
We have to look at it in a different value system I suppose.
 
Right now, Rocco is cute and stays where you put him. He might sleep through the night now. Rocco smiles at everyone and shows off those three adorable teeth. He's their little dress up dolly, with the occasional stinky diaper.

The real fun will be when Rocco's a toddler, can run like the wind (or at least, can make his caretakers winded as they chase after him), doesn't want to be potty trained, refuses to eat Joe's "food", and he learns the word "no". That's probably when Joe will make himself scarce.

Moe and Lily already don't like each other, so expect fireworks if Rocco chooses one over the other. Lily's the kid's bio mom, and owns the house. Moe's just the Manny.

When this shitshow blows up someday, Rocco's going to need a good therapist. He's the only one I feel bad for. He didn't ask to be part of this circus.
 
I dunno man.
You get reeeeeeeeeally attached to a baby if you're around it since birth, even when it didnt spring from your drug shrivelled loins.

Then again I am projecting normal person values and emotions again.
I would say on gets reeeeeeally attached to their parents and brothers and sisters who actually haven't wronged you, but she didn't seem very stuck on them and was willing to fling a grenade into that fuck the prize of fuck all too, so.
Perhaps, yeah.

Maybe a baby will hook her by the narcissism, more than a boring old established family of birth did?
We have to look at it in a different value system I suppose.
Keep in mind the baby was produced by a woman Mallory has been forced to accept by Joe.

I still ponder how Mallory went from woke urban tranny tweeting “mammas don’t let you babies grow up to be breeders” to posing with Joe’s pregnant girlfriend for a cringe mag cover. Whiplash.

Honestly, if I was LaLa, I’d be more worried about a oopsie SIDS death than Mallory getting super mama bear attached to my little bundle of joy. Only thing protecting little Rocco is that he is Joe’s son and therefore an extension of Joe. Her devotion to Rocco is based upon her codependency on Joe.

I don’t see Rocco as a bonding agent but a pawn in the relationship dynamic, but by the same token, Mallory might be motivated to get Rocco to bond with her to gain status. Nothing will secure her position in the house more than a being Rocco’s preferred caretaker.

However the fact that Rocco breast feeds and sleeps downstairs with Joe and LaLa makes it obvious he’s going to be bonded to his mother, not the tranny nanny in the attic. Who feeds and puts the baby to sleep is the mom to the baby. Rocco won’t have the capacity to bond strongly to others until he’s a bit older and weened, or at least regularly having non-breast meals.

Even involved fathers lament how difficult the first year is with a breast fed baby because the primary bond with the mother is so intense. Infant brains really are built for one strong primary attachment the first year. It’s why the first year can be so hard on moms, mom substitutes don’t work very well. Any secondary attachment Rocco might develop could very well be to Mallory instead of Joe.

It’s why I was curious about Lala breastfeeding or not. Regardless of anything Lala said about throuple parenting, breastfeeding cemented the baby’s primary attachment to her. The unknown is when Rocco is able to develop a secondary caregiver attachment is it will be to Mallory or Joe. My guess would be Mallory since I figure Joe will avoid the heavy lifting of childcare when possible. The heavy lifting is what creates the bond.

She refers to Rocco as her son. She is attached.
What else is she going to call him in her writing? The boy? It? My wife’s girlfriends’s son? Her son is the only word she could use for him in her writing just for simplicity and optics alone.

Rocco is allowing her to produce new “parent friendly” content for magazines, so for that reason alone “son” is going to be used, never mind the public scrutiny that comes from declaring yourself a Brooklyn power throuple and appearing with a pregnant LaLa on a mag cover.

Mallory needs the parenting arc to pitch some sort of fresh material. The trans-parent, non-traditional family schtick matters a lot for this, so therefore “my son” or “my child” is important to use. Throuple trans-parents are real parents!!!
 
When this shitshow blows up someday, Rocco's going to need a good therapist. He's the only one I feel bad for. He didn't ask to be part of this circus.
Any way it shakes out, that poor Rocco is just doomed to a lifetime of therapy. Even if the BPT falls apart before he hits young adult consciousness, lots of deep psych is already forming in his little head right now. His “normal” from Day One has been so beyond any sort of reasonable state. He really is a post modern developmental psych guinea pig, with his two “lesbian Moms” one of which is a narcissistic parasite troon and with a masochistic pooner nanny for a stand in “father figure”. FFS. Those selfish assholes have scrambled the human family basics for him so badly and it will have an effect on him later.
 
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